iOS 7 Music Player - Every Problem I encountered

[abshole765]

So if I add an album to my iTunes library and every song has the same album title in the info and the same artist, except a few songs have the same artist but feature another artist, instead of grouping the songs in 1 album by the album title, or even by the common artist, it assumes that Artist ft Artist is a whole new artist and is separate from the album I uploaded (even though the songs with Artist and Artist ft Artist have the same album title) and creates a different album for Artist ft Artist with the same album name?

This doesn't seem broken to you? I'm not saying this is new to iOS 7, just surprised that it hasn't been fixed yet, especially given that all stock apps were redesigned.

I'm saying it extends well beyond Apple & iOS. There are numerous music players that handle metadata/Tags the same way as iOS. If people are "complaining" about it making a second/third/etc album because of a featuring artist, why don't you get mad about if you have a space at the end of the artist name or album versus not having one? Doing that will give you the exact same result. It's just how it is.

How is a music player supposed to know where to stop grouping an artist?

 

[Chazz08]

So why does it happen on countless other music applications? Ones that aren't even Apple or iOS related.

Oh boy, the comparing game. So because everyone else does it, that means it's right....wrong. Bad comparison.

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I'm saying it extends well beyond Apple & iOS. There are numerous music players that handle metadata/Tags the same way as iOS. If people are "complaining" about it making a second/third/etc album because of a featuring artist, why don't you get mad about if you have a space at the end of the artist name or album versus not having one? Doing that will give you the exact same result. It's just how it is.

How is a music player supposed to know where to stop grouping an artist?

How is it supposed to know? Ummmmm....there's this thing called programming that would allow it to see that the songs are all from the same album and common artist as mentioned earlier.

 

[abshole765]

Oh boy, the comparing game. So because everyone else does it, that means it's right....wrong. Bad comparison.

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How is it supposed to know? Ummmmm....there's this thing called programming that would allow it to see that the songs are all from the same album and common artist as mentioned earlier.

So you just want it to completely ignore the information you put into the song info? It all ends up being how the data/tags are handled. Telling ID3 tags to ignore spaces or words after a certain point is like you wanting to make a website with a space in the URL. It ain't going to happen.

 

[Eric0531]

Oh boy, the comparing game. So because everyone else does it, that means it's right....wrong. Bad comparison.

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How is it supposed to know? Ummmmm....there's this thing called programming that would allow it to see that the songs are all from the same album and common artist as mentioned earlier.

This "logic" you advocate would mean that all of your albums named "Greatest Hits" would be combined into one huge album.

The music app in iOS7 sucks really bad, but this particular issue isn't a problem, it's exactly how a music app *should* work. This is what the Album Artist tag is for.

 

[Chazz08]

This "logic" you advocate would mean that all of your albums named "Greatest Hits" would be combined into one huge album.

The music app in iOS7 sucks really bad, but this particular issue isn't a problem, it's exactly how a music app *should* work. This is what the Album Artist tag is for.

No it wouldn't. How do you come to that conclusion? They have different artists, do they not? I said that it would be able to recognize what artist it was by and sort it that way. All they'd have to do is program the app to ignore "feat..." Not that hard.

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So you just want it to completely ignore the information you put into the song info? It all ends up being how the data/tags are handled. Telling ID3 tags to ignore spaces or words after a certain point is like you wanting to make a website with a space in the URL. It ain't going to happen.

???

 

[jonnyb098]

Im having regular springboard crashes when first launching itunes radio part of the music app. Goes to apple logo for a few seconds. Happens on my iPhone 5S and iPad 4...coincidence? Doubt it. Anyone else having these issues?

 

[moderngamenewb]

Has anyone encountered an issue in music player whilst listening to a song and then pausing it for a minute or so, resuming it from the lockscreen, the song continues from a completely different place?

I have a similar issue. I'll be listening to a song, and I have the display off when I keep it in my pocket. Sometimes when I pull up the control center during a song it shows the time of where the song is at, I'll look at it for a moment. Then when I unlock the phone, the song automatically rewinds to the point when I looked at it on the notification center before unlocking it. Weird bug

 

[madeirabhoy]

where to start. i have ios 6 on my iphone 3gs and ios 7 on my ipad 4, but a lot of the problems are on both...


1 stability of itunes match under both. itll all be working fine, then all of a sudden, itll look like its working but the playlists have dissappeared, and sometimes the new songs dont appear. i look into settings and it says itunes match is off. i turn it back on. go to music. i get itunes match is updating. i go away and go back to it. its back to 'working' but no playlists. back to settings. tells me its off. turn it back on... go to music,.... it works again.

2. why is there two supposedly identical switches in settings to turn itunes match off? its asthetically weird but also i think it leads to some of the problems.

3. why is switching between 'all songs' and 'hide songs not downloaded' hidden in settings and why is it such a big thing? i get the feeling its this that tends to lead to the problems in 1. im sure a lot of users are like me. when my iphone is on wifi i want to see the whole lot of music. when its 3g i dont. for my ipad, when its on wifi i want to see it all, and when theres no wifi theres no point in showing me the rest coz i havent even got 3g. there should be a button in the music app that does this, and even some settings so you can set it to automatically switch.

4. and this is more of a suggestion than a complaint. again im sure im not weird in this, like a lot of people, my iphone's music is a snapshot of a much larger music collection. same as i would have done even back with my cassette walkman, i like to have a couple of playlists (compilations) one of which is 'best' which is my favourite tunes of all time, and the other is 'new' which im constantly sticking new singles and random choices of new album tracks. separately to that i have a dozen full albums.

this, i think is normal. on my mac its fine because its much quicker and easier to scroll and click, and the screen is big enough that i can see at a glance the artist, album, songs.

but on an iphone, i want to have a playlist list, which just has best and new, and when i go to albums i dont want the screen populated with lots of 1 song listings. im looking for an album to listen to, i dont want to have to click on 'fatboy slim' them 'greatest hits' just to see i only have praise you on my phone coz its in the best playlist.

5. maybe im missing something but my ios 7 ipad doesnt do coverflow in any way.

 

[adammgaines]

I can't easily find music because I'm looking at band photos instead of album art.

 

[iRock1]

There is also this annoying bug where you go to the pseudo Cover Flow mode, and then once you put the iPhone in portrait mode again, it shows the pseudo Cover Flow mode in a vertical layout, instead of going to the regular Music layout.

 

[willryan42]

To everyone complaining about the "feat. artist" creating a mess: you're being ignorant to how metadata works. This is not an iOS, iTunes, or OS X specific issue. This is just how metadata works. There's nothing for Apple to fix because there's no issue. The album artist tag is what you guys are looking for.

 

[Dangerous Theory]

4. The inability to shuffle a specific album after selecting a specific artist and not have all his albums shuffle. Biggest no comment.

This is my only real issue, and it is a big one. When you search by artist, each album has it's own shuffle button next to it. One would assume that button shuffles that particular album, but nope. Thanks Apple.

 

[abshole765]

To everyone complaining about the "feat. artist" creating a mess: you're being ignorant to how metadata works. This is not an iOS, iTunes, or OS X specific issue. This is just how metadata works. There's nothing for Apple to fix because there's no issue. The album artist tag is what you guys are looking for.

Finally someone gets it.

 

[Martron]

Has anyone noticed this issue?

When a song is playing and you flip horizontally, it shows artwork and tracklisting for the current album BUT...it's ALWAYS the wrong album!

 

[LarxJo]

Still no changes in the 7.1. And I'm pretty sure that we will have to wait until iOS 8.
I'm pretty sure that you agree it's not acceptable. It's even scandalous to have to wait for a bug fix. The bug just don't allow us to do what we were able to do for years.

Apple received tons of bug report about it, tons of people speaking about these bugs on their forum. But what do they fix? The yahoo logo. They just ignore the bug report. (50% of the reports are never read by Apple).
It would be normal for low-end phones/software. But the iphones are not low-end phones.
The problem is not only with iOS, but with OS X and iTunes. Some bugs exist for years. I had a problem, and I googled it. The solution was given on the Apple forum in....2007. (something concerning Keychain on OS X)
And well, the best example is iTunes. No need to explain.



As reporting bugs, talking on the Apple forum is not sufficient to make them fix this bug, I was thinking of doing something more public.


I see 3 solutions (The last is I'm pretty sure useless as it would have no effect)
1. article in MacRumor, or any well-known news websites, or even in a well-known newspaper. (It would spread over other websites)
2. Online Petition
3. Send an email to Tim Cook.


But alone, I don't have enough power for that. I also can't do a good text with good explanation. I don't have good skills in writing. As english is not my native language, it's even worse.



So I was thinking that together, we may find a way. What do you think?

 

[bbfc]

Still no changes in the 7.1. And I'm pretty sure that we will have to wait until iOS 8.
I'm pretty sure that you agree it's not acceptable. It's even scandalous to have to wait for a bug fix. The bug just don't allow us to do what we were able to do for years.

Apple received tons of bug report about it, tons of people speaking about these bugs on their forum. But what do they fix? The yahoo logo. They just ignore the bug report. (50% of the reports are never read by Apple).
It would be normal for low-end phones/software. But the iphones are not low-end phones.
The problem is not only with iOS, but with OS X and iTunes. Some bugs exist for years. I had a problem, and I googled it. The solution was given on the Apple forum in....2007. (something concerning Keychain on OS X)
And well, the best example is iTunes. No need to explain.



As reporting bugs, talking on the Apple forum is not sufficient to make them fix this bug, I was thinking of doing something more public.


I see 3 solutions (The last is I'm pretty sure useless as it would have no effect)
1. article in MacRumor, or any well-known news websites, or even in a well-known newspaper. (It would spread over other websites)
2. Online Petition
3. Send an email to Tim Cook.


But alone, I don't have enough power for that. I also can't do a good text with good explanation. I don't have good skills in writing. As english is not my native language, it's even worse.



So I was thinking that together, we may find a way. What do you think?

If these bugs you are eluding to are what is mentioned in the first post, then they are not 'bugs', but removed features. A bug would be if the ability to do those things is present, but it didn't work as intended.

 

[LarxJo]

Hello,

[...]

2. The inability to add songs to a playlist from another playlist. No comment. => (it suddenly disappear between 2 beta = more likely a BUG. (bug like they changed something and forgot to put it back))

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4. The inability to shuffle a specific album after selecting a specific artist and not have all his albums shuffle. Biggest no comment. (BUG)

I have to add:

5. App often crash when adding the playing song to a playlist

6. Playlist with criterion: 0*: does not show the 0* songs (except if songs have already been rated 1 time, and unrated)

7. Song sometimes not displayed in an album. The day after they are back, then again not displayed

8. When editing a playlist: no way to add a whole album/playlist/artist. (before 7.0.x, there are a (+) beside the album cover / artist, but it didn't work. Instead of fixing the bug, they remove the button


PS: it was working in previous ios versions. (at least in iOS 3-4-5-6)



So I think we are speaking more about bugs. These missing features, are not removed by purpose. They just screw this application, and they don't want to admit it, so they don't fix it.

Because, in my opinion, Apple wouldn't remove the ability to add a whole album on purpose. It more something they forgot, or I don't know what they did.

Isn't it?

 

[CEmajr]

I'd like to add to this thread that in all my years of owning an iPhone, this is the first time they've made an app so buggy and frustrating that I'm considering using a 3rd party app to play my iTunes Library. I'm very disappointed as stability was something I have come to expect from Apple and is one of the main reasons I've always chosen the iPhone over the competition.

First, I have iTunes Match, so my whole 16000 song library is available for streaming from the Cloud and I have the option to download tracks to my phone if I want to have access to them without needing a data connection.

1. - Some songs will simply not play at all. The phone will hang as if it's trying to stream for a few seconds and it will then just automatically skip the song (bear in mind that this is over a 20mbps LTE connection). So imagine hopping in the car wanting to hear your favorite song only to have the Music App refuse to play it. You're only choice is the fully close out the app and restart the app to try to get it to play again if that's one of the tracks it randomly decides not to play.

2 - The music player sometimes just randomly skips through songs and doesn't try to play them at all. For instance I can go to a playlist and hit shuffle, it will play the first song, then automatically skip the next 3 songs before playing another one. Then it won't allow me to hit the back button and try to go back to the song.

3 - The scrubbing seems terribly buggy at times. Often times when trying to scroll back around 10-20 seconds or so will just rewind the whole song to the beginning.

4 - When hanging there trying to play a song or whatever it's doing, the music app will sometimes just close itself out. Thereby resetting the order I had going on a given playlist.

5 - Even with tracks that I've downloaded to my device it will still try to stream them for some reason. I see the spinning data circle and get the same hanging on some my downloaded tracks as if it's still trying to stream. Sometimes I have to toggle Airplane mode to force it to just play the track without trying to use data.

6 - Album art is there sometimes and can be not there the next day. While it's not a big deal, it's something I noticed.

7 - Music App randomly crashes sometimes when trying to add songs to a playlist as well. I've had my iPhone crash more with iOS 7 than probably the previous 5 years of owning iPhones combined.

While overall I like iOS 7, I'm a big music guy and the Music App is simply horrible and bug ridden. It's laggy, slow, and unreliable. Things I never thought I'd associate with anything iPhone.

So now I've decided to use Google Play Music since it came to the App Store and has my iTunes Library uploaded. It streams all of my songs quickly and reliably, I just hate the ugly and clunky interface. Have to deal with it for now until Apple fixes this mess.

Also this all on a 32GB iPhone 5S.

 

[me7]

No it wouldn't. How do you come to that conclusion? They have different artists, do they not? I said that it would be able to recognize what artist it was by and sort it that way. All they'd have to do is program the app to ignore "feat..." Not that hard.

There is a possible problem with that. A minute of googling revealed the existence of a band called "Feathers". If the app ignored "feat...", it would end up ignoring the band's name as a whole.
This approach is messy and a textbook example of bad software engineering.

A proper solution already exists: the album artist tag. It's exactly what you need, just copy the name of the album's main artist into the field and you can put whatever you want in the artist tag.

 

[Nautilus007]

the original iPod was more reliable than this new music app in ios7.


I honestly don't understand how they could have botched it so badly.

 

[mcfly88]

1. The Music app does not show the edited metadata tags I made on purchased songs. Rather it pulls the information from the iTunes store and shows the tags they want to show. This means there is a discrepancy between how songs appear on iTunes that reflect the changes I made and the songs that appear in iOS 7. There are many reasons one would make changes to the metadata for organization and library management purposes, and the fact that apple is deciding what to show me is very frustrating.

This is really annoying, especially sense a lot of iTunes tracks aren't labeled correctly. Anyway, if you sign out of your account before syncing your music it will keep your edits. However, I have noticed a few (very few) songs still get changed.

 

[MichaelAaron123]

I have two major problems with my app. Firstly I downloaded an entire album off of iTunes and it stills asks me in the music player if I'd like to view the whole album for purchase. All the songs are already there and if I click it it'll take me to iTunes to show me I have already purchased the album. Secondly, I'll be listening to music and I'll lock the phone and when I unlock the phone again the music will start playing from when I locked it. Need an update!

 

[Jeevoss]

Compilations problem - I have songs in compilation albums, they will only show in the compilation mode. You can not view these songs in genre mode or artist mode.

 

[dannyyankou]

Scrubbing from the lock screen and the inability to add entire albums/artists to playlists were the only annoyances for me, but they are fixed in 7.1.

 

[sunshineof4]

music

Most of the songs in my iphone library have a red box with a circle around it.
These songs wont play....any ideas on how to fix?