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I am actually quite happy that the OTA download package for iOS 8 is that large. I have been trying to keep my iPad 3 on iOS 5.1.1 from auto downloading the installer and holding my storage hostage unless I upgrade. Until now, it involved filling up the iPad to the brim to prevent that auto download. Now, I get a little more headroom :)
 
I was reluctant to update my 4S. But after iOS 8.0.2 was released and I had some free time on the weekend I thought: "Whatever...".
;-)
OTA-update wasn't possible, due to low space.
Somebody mentioned that one could still use iTunes to update and that worked very nicely (albeit slow).
I've not seen a single problem on 8.0.2 that didn't already exist on 7.0.2.
It's maybe a bit slower, but it wasn't really fast on 7 anymore either.
Battery-life isn't much different, though the default brightness seems to have decreased.

I wouldn't say you have to upgrade your 4S to iOS 8 - but it doesn't really hurt, either.
I like the spellchecker-suggestions - that's a neat feature.
 
I'm guessing a lot of people don't know they can plug it into iTunes. If the warning came up "Please free up space or connect your iPhone to iTunes to upgrade" maybe things would improve. Don't be surprised if 8.1 adds something like that if adoption rates are still low.

Yea, that might be a reason, but the people complaining here on the forums are well aware that they can update the phone via iTunes and that it doesn't take any monstrous space to do it.
 
I updated my iPhone 5 but not my iPad Air. Phone lags like mad now. Seriously, the Podcasts app, it's not an exaggeration to estimate I get about 1.2 seconds per frame when I'm scrolling through my lists. You know, the ones built on the UITableView framework, engineered back in iOS 1.0 for optimal efficiency, smallest memory footprint, and readibility on small screens. It chops and lags so badly I pull my finger down, wait a few jerky updates, repeat. When I want to dowload or interact with the app, I have to hold my finger on the screen for about a full second to interact with it. Of course, with the wonder of iOS 7/8, there is no immediate feedback like an animated button depressing to let me know I had a successful input, so I have to try a few times quite often.

Fan-flipping-tastic. God, I wish I was still on 6. So, I'll update it immediately whenever they roll out anything new, because in my opinion, it really can't get any worse. Until it does.
 
What's impressive about that? They all "phone home" for various reasons (iCloud backups, App Store updates, iCloud email, Find my Phone...) and they all have a unique device id. It couldn't be easier to track that.

It's because it's not true.

Another misleading headline.

All iOS devices?
 
I'm starting to think that apology letter for Apple Maps was unnecessary. Apple Maps wasn't great but not so bad either. Besides Maps, iOS 6 ran very smoothly and overall performance was great.

The bad performance on iOS 7.0 and 8.0 bugged me more than Apple Maps.

Cook needed that to justify dismissing Forstall.

Since Cook fired Forstall all the software issues are gone :rolleyes:
 
I think 7 cured a lot of users who looked forward to updates :)


Yet iOS 7 is now hailed as some sort of benchmark for stability and performance.

People around here have very short memories. The current version of iOS is always judged by the .0 release, the previous version is always judged by the .1.2 or whatever the last release is. Few people seem to see the cycle- every time a major version of iOS is released, it starts out relatively buggy and slowly becomes stable as Apple releases updates. It's been like that since I started using iOS around version 3.0, and it's likely to be like that as long as iOS exists.

So when somebody says, "Version x never had this many problems", it's clear that they either never experienced the bugs that everybody else had with that version, or they forgot what it was like when it was initially released.

(8.0.1 is the lone exception- no previous iOS update caused the kind of issues that one did. There is no pattern to suggest that such a release will ever be the norm.)
 
Yet iOS 7 is now hailed as some sort of benchmark for stability and performance.

People around here have very short memories. The current version of iOS is always judged by the .0 release, the previous version is always judged by the .1.2 or whatever the last release is. Few people seem to see the cycle- every time a major version of iOS is released, it starts out relatively buggy and slowly becomes stable as Apple releases updates.
That is true to an extent in my experiences as well. But I've seen a downward stepping down in quality from major version to major version.

In other words, generally speaking x.2 is more stable than x.0 but iOS "x" at its most stable point release is more stable than "x+1" at its most stable point release.
 
I agree, I like the feature as my thumb can't quite reach that top-left back arrow on my 6. I can't imagine that on a 6 Plus.

OTOH, I'm willing to trade that for screen rotation, at least for the short term. Thanks for the tip! :cool:

I hope it works for you! It seems that this version of iOS is completely random. Some have trouble, some don't, some fixes work, some don't. I can't figure it out at all, but this tip worked for me. Oh, I also had to do a hard reset after turning off Reachability before it worked.

//maybe if I sacrificed a chicken or something. :p
 
..and many people just have iPhones only, so updating OTA is their only choice.

That's why we went "PC-Free".

*sigh*... maybe i should finally update to 8.0.2, it will get this monkey off my back.

Its not so bad, at least i get extensions. :) even if the other stuff would be a waste.
 
I suspect it's no accident that iOS 8 doesn't play well with older iPhones....
 
An over-the-air update is a tough sell on 8GB or 16GB devices – lots of people wouldn't want to delete photos and apps to make way for a software update.

main reason why my wife can't do the update on her 5s. I told her don't bother, it's not worth deleting or moving pictures/videos from her iPhone for this update.
 
iOS 8 Adoption Stagnates Just Two and a Half Weeks After Launch

I suspect it's no accident that iOS 8 doesn't play well with older iPhones....


I suspect it's no accident that older iPhones have older hardware that don't run newer versions of iOS as well as the newer iPhones...

Really though, it doesn't benefit Apple to kill older devices, because then they're destroying the good reputation they have. I see this conspiracy theory every year, and it amazes me that people think a company can make hundreds of billions of dollars by being that shortsighted.


That is true to an extent in my experiences as well. But I've seen a downward stepping down in quality from major version to major version.



In other words, generally speaking x.2 is more stable than x.0 but iOS "x" at its most stable point release is more stable than "x+1" at its most stable point release.


It all comes down to personal experience, and how old the device is. For me, iOS 8.0 is far better than 7.0 was, but not quite as smooth as 7.1.2. I don't think many iPad 3 owners would agree with me, of course.
 
Sad to say I'm one of them, although not on purpose, lol. My phone crashed and couldn't be fixed so I had to restore. No more jailbroken 6.1 for me.
 
I think this is Apple's fault

Like others have said the problem is on 16 or 8 gb device you need 4 gigs free to do an over the air update, and users don't know how to clear off that much space from their devices. The nice work around is updating while connecting your phone to itunes. I had to do this for my mother and step sister, because they didn't have enough room. But apple has done a terrible job of making users aware of the itunes update option. How would people even know? Apple needs to explain update options much better and more clearly to users.
 
Yet iOS 7 is now hailed as some sort of benchmark for stability and performance.

My only experience with 7 was troubleshooting devices for friends who installed it as soon as Apple pushed it to their device. They all were unhappy. I no longer mention Apple. Don't need that hassle.

I usually upgraded as soon as possible. I was cautious after watching WWDC 2013. The presenters cracked hard on the system currently on all iDevices in Apple store. I wondered why they were knocking 6 instead of talking up the new creation.

So happy in the comfort of green felt and leather stitching.
 
This is what happens when:

- The Visionary has left the building.
- A stock manager assumes charge of the company.
- The stock manager fires the development lead of an OS since it's inception..
- .. & puts a designer at the head instead.

Everything he built will turn to dust unless this nonsense is sorted.
 
Love iOS 8 on my 5s. No complaints.

Me too, only two issues I've found so far though are relatively minor;

Messages app still showing unread messages even after I've read them.
Unable to answer calls over Bluetooth while in the car.
 
I see a difference, its just i choose not to update..

Its like saying buying a top notch house with games room, if your never gonna use it. You buy it, cos u think u may want it later..

That's different.

You're not a general user. Most people don't see the difference between iOS7 and 8.
 
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