There was very little visual difference between iOS 4,5 and 6, but people still upgraded them, even though though there were no OTA upgrades
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iOS 8 Adoption Stagnates Just Two and a Half Weeks After Launch
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I think that Apple's stupid-arse policy to not allow older iOS versions is starting to bite them.
Good.
This is an easy fix. Allow people to install the iOS version they want/need.
This is yet another reason why the Enterprise should never go with Apple devices.
Why Apple? WHY???
Good.
This is an easy fix. Allow people to install the iOS version they want/need.
This is yet another reason why the Enterprise should never go with Apple devices.
Why Apple? WHY???
The 2011 phone you are talking about (iphone 4S) was still being sold by Apple until a few weeks ago. There are people that may have bought it brand new at the beginning of September that could reasonably expect it not to be turned into an unusable lagfest.
Health App/Health Kit fail
I am a big Apple fan, but iOS 8 has been very rough. In particular, the Health App and Health Kit have been a complete fails for me. I have tried syncing with MyFitnessPal, and it just locks up the Health App and renders it useless.
Maybe I am the only one having the problem, or maybe this is something unique to MFP. However, I get the feeling this issue is deeper than just one App, since the rollout of Health Kit was delayed.
I am a big Apple fan, but iOS 8 has been very rough. In particular, the Health App and Health Kit have been a complete fails for me. I have tried syncing with MyFitnessPal, and it just locks up the Health App and renders it useless.
Maybe I am the only one having the problem, or maybe this is something unique to MFP. However, I get the feeling this issue is deeper than just one App, since the rollout of Health Kit was delayed.
Apple's pathetic base NAND returns to bite them in the arse.
Good for them, sucks for us.
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Animations that were buttery smooth on my 4S are choppy since upgrading from iOS 7 to iOS 8. I can understand new animations being choppy, but preexisting ones? Inexcusable.
I don't believe it's intentional, rather it's a lack of refinement and optimization. Apple released a beta iOS.
Good for them, sucks for us.
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Animations that were buttery smooth on my 4S are choppy since upgrading from iOS 7 to iOS 8. I can understand new animations being choppy, but preexisting ones? Inexcusable.
I don't believe it's intentional, rather it's a lack of refinement and optimization. Apple released a beta iOS.
I definitely agree that the general population is hopeless when it comes to phones and computers, but your explanation still doesn't help in this case. Roughly the same proportion of clueless sheep would have not updated to 7 as 8.
Yep, and features such as FaceTime will apparently be permanently broken unless you update to the latest.
I'm sorry to Apple, but I spent half a year dealing with 7.0's brutally slow and unresponsive behaviour. Not a word about fixing it, or any of the other issues. As long as iOS updates are permanent and irreversible, I think a lot more people are going to be careful about it.
After so many crippled devices, people are left to wonder... if it ain't broke, is it worthwhile to upgrade the OS?
I don't work for Apple, but I do have plenty of money invested in them. So obviously I'm concerned that Apple has a good product portfolio. Who would invest in a company and then not care at all about what they do?
In my opinion, Apple has hit it out of the park for this year. It started slowly, with barely anything happening in the first half of the year, but since WWDC they've stolen the wind from everybody else's sails.
Apple makes their money from hardware, but the big differentiator is really their software (back to the 80s - it's the software, stupid!). After all, the software is how the user gets access to all of that hardware; it's where they "live" when they use the product. It's important that as well as a good hardware strategy, they have good software and services strategies.
In terms of software, both OS X and iOS have seen big updates. The Mac feels much more modern and fresh to use, and much more of a partner to your iOS devices than it ever has before. iOS has been opened up in several key areas (and you would expect Apple to expand the extensions system in later versions of iOS), meaning you can now get things like the SwiftKey keyboard. Those kinds of things matter to users. The file-system is huge, and allows productivity apps like we've never really been able to have on iOS before. Document providers are huge for business. Those two things could transform the place of the iPad at work.
There may be hiccups during the launch, but iOS and OS X are now much better platforms and their offering is much more attractive to customers than it was before.
As an investor I'm very, very happy with how Apple's done so far. As a user I've got to say I like the products; I've been using iOS8 during the beta and I still notice a couple of glitches, but nothing which I think really spoils all the goodies or will detract consumers in the medium term.
Once you add the iWatch and ApplePay (and the massive revenue potential if they get it right), Apple's future looks incredible. They're cheap at $99-$100 right now.
How is your 5S worse for it?
You don't like better encryption?
Don't like continuity?
Don't like notification widgets?
Don't like share extensions?
Don't like activity extensions!
Don't like sharing purchases with close family? Do you have any close family...?
Dont't like the ability to use touchid for third party apps.
I mean... Holyshit... There's a multitude of benefits and new features in iOS8.
Actually, I don't care about any of those things. Continuity also requires Yosemite. Definitely don't want to set up any kind of app sharing with my mom's iPhone or else she'll be asking me every single day how to use it for that one app she downloads each year. Based on my experience with Home Sharing, I doubt it's intuitive.
I finally updated my 5S this past weekend from 7.1.2 straight to 8.0.2, and it has worked pretty flawlessly, maybe even a bit faster. Like others, I was VERY nervous at first about updating due to all the news and testimonials. However, after I was able to play around with a 5 which was updated via OTA to 8.0.2, I was assuaged of most concerns. Indeed, after connecting through iTunes, the update happened without incident and everything is awesome.
Some other observations:
-If you are like me who has a 16GB phone, and didn't have space for the OTA update, you'll have to use iTunes. Frankly, you should do this anyway, since it's a new OS. The most likely culprits are photos and videos. Most of mine spanned several years... I simply direct accessed the DCIM folder on my 5S, pulled all the photos and videos off, and saved them to my computer drive for safe keeping. Freed up lots of GBs.
-If you have something like a 4S or iPad 2, you should probably stay away from iOS 8. I read a lot of people here complaining having done so. To be blunt, it's not the OS, it's your hardware. Those are pretty old models at this point. The iPhone 4 can't even accept iOS 8... that should be a red flag that updating something like the 4S should be done with caution.
Some other observations:
-If you are like me who has a 16GB phone, and didn't have space for the OTA update, you'll have to use iTunes. Frankly, you should do this anyway, since it's a new OS. The most likely culprits are photos and videos. Most of mine spanned several years... I simply direct accessed the DCIM folder on my 5S, pulled all the photos and videos off, and saved them to my computer drive for safe keeping. Freed up lots of GBs.
-If you have something like a 4S or iPad 2, you should probably stay away from iOS 8. I read a lot of people here complaining having done so. To be blunt, it's not the OS, it's your hardware. Those are pretty old models at this point. The iPhone 4 can't even accept iOS 8... that should be a red flag that updating something like the 4S should be done with caution.
I'm sure he would if every yahoo out there started mailing their bug reports to him.
Hmm. Not seeing any of those things. And, in fact my wifi is much faster than it's ever been. Of course, helped out by the new hardware.
THIS.
I would not have upgraded to iOS 7 if not for the SSL bug (which Apple refused to patch in iOS 6 unless your hardware was deemed incapable of running iOS 7). So, for the sake of security, my wife and I had to suffer through iOS 7 on our iPhone 4's. That left a bad taste in my mouth that I won't soon forget.
I updated my work-issued 5c with iOS 8 to try it out before deciding if my family's 5S should be updated. It seems to be ok, except for some occasional freezes/crashes and the asinine "snooze" bug in the Alarm Clock. No way in hell will I update my iPad 3; it runs fine now; why should I degrade it with an "upgrade?"
$$$
Or to paraphrase your sentiment - let them eat cake
The smallest storage option is not the best selling because people don't have foresight, it's 100% because it's the cheapest.
For Sure. I'd be good with OS X getting a major upgrade every 2 years, after Yosemite (really looking forward to 10.10). Especially if they start charging for upgrades again. But having a new OS free is a deciding factor for most I think, so why not upgrade if you can.
"Choose Wisely"
Unlike apple? What rock have you been hiding under?
Mobile me, OSX lion, FCX, iWork for iCloud, apple maps...
They were all a complete shambles when they were released. Some of them still are.
I've heard the same words last year for iOS 7, and the year before for iOS 6...
Customers keep asking for changes, but keep complaining after every change.
It's in the human nature, but it's exaggerated here in MR forum
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Have you ever used an iPhone in the last three years?!?
I thought I made it clear that is was my personal experience.
You definitely made it clear, I was just reiterating what you said.
Your only experience with 7 was right after it came out. 7.0.2 through 7.0.6 improved things incrementally, and 7.1 was much more stable and polished. I find it hard to believe that the things you helped them troubleshoot were things that couldn't have happened in other versions of iOS as well. Part of it is also getting used to change, which is understandable as well.
And they did talk up iOS 7 at WWDC 2013, did you not see the video where Ive talked about the design of iOS 7? You seem to be kind of sensitive towards anybody suggesting negative things about Jobs, Forstall, and their creations.
What do you plan on doing when iOS 6 and the devices you have now are outdated? No other mobile operating system even remotely replicates the earlier versions of iOS.
The animations themselves may not have changed, but the number of background services has likely increased dramatically with iOS 8. Every CPU cycle used by things like widgets, extensions, and whatever else iOS is doing behind the scenes is one less cycle available for animations. The older the device, the higher the chance that there will be dropped frames.
I think an interesting concept that has been floated throughout this thread is decoupling iOS releases and hardware releases. If the iOS team had the freedom to set a release schedule that centered around their needs, they could still do an annual major release, but it would be one that is ready when they are and not necessarily when the hardware is. I think we'd see a higher level of quality than we do now.
The current system can work for them, but maybe it could be better?
Yeah, same thing happened to me with my 3G. iOS 3.1.3 was fine and lagged once I went to iOS4. Bottom line is this... If it ain't broke, don't fix it, regardless of all the new gimmicks your tempted to taste. This applies to OS X as well, however, I couldn't resist running the Yosemite Beta.
I'm still on iOS 7.1.2 as well, didn't upgrade as I didn't want to loose my jailbreak plus hearing about the issues online, feels like even though months of beta testing went through for the iOS 8, it still feels like beta. :/ Plus they've shipped out an unfinished product, iOS 8 goes hand in hand with Mac OS Yosemite, which is still in testing.
Hope they would try their best to optimise the OS for the older models as well than just the new models.
Hope they would try their best to optimise the OS for the older models as well than just the new models.
Hey bud the lag is finally gone when plugging in your device on 8.1 beta 2! Hopefully they fix the jumps in battery percentage next. Not done yet. But it's a start!
I'm all for 32GB entry iPhones but this wouldn't really solve the problem. My iPhone 4 was a 32GB model but after a couple year of use I certainly didn't have 5GB of free space to dedicate to over the air update.
Depends on how people use their phone and what they would need accordingly. I've always had enough even for OTA updates using 16 GB devices. That said, there's always iTunes that can be used for upgrades and doesn't require much space.
Yes but its only been a month. I bet some people still do not know there is an iOS 8.
But even iOS 8 has its problems. Not every iOS device is upgradable to 8. Also, as mentioned before, people with 16GB phones probably can not upgrade due to low storage memory
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its hard to believe but its what the article says.