iPad iOS 8 and iPad 3

[na1577]

The single core and poor ram to screen size ratio didn't hold back iOS 6 from the iPod Touch 4G.

That's a good point. Also, the iPhone 3GS got iOS 6 but the iPod touch 3G didn't, despite having identical internals. The difference was that the iPod touch was discontinued over two years earlier then the 3GS.

Apple made a lot of A5-powered devices over two years. Each device has the same amount of RAM, save the iPad 3, and the same CPU with minor variations in clock speed. Of these five devices, three of them remain for sale as of April 2014:

2011
- iPad 2
- iPad 3
- iPhone 4S

2012
- iPod touch 5G
- iPad mini

Technically speaking, nothing should stop Apple from updating all of these devices. They're all very similar from a spec standpoint. But we can safely assume the iPad 2 will be dropped given that Apple finally discontinued it. This is similar to last year, when Apple abruptly replaced the iPod touch 4G with a cheaper 5G model before WWDC. The iPad 3 is a wildcard; it has been discontinued since 2012, has already received two major iOS updates, and reportedly struggles under the demands of the Retina Display. Recent devices like the iPad 2 and iPhone 3GS have received three major updates each, so it's possible that Apple may give iOS 8 to the iPad 3. We'll find out for sure on June 2nd, but if I were an iPad 3 owner I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[theromz]

Wikipedia is not the best place to go for information. The A5X had an increased die size over the A5. Although both perform around the same, the A5X is different from the A5.

Did you read the wiki page?

The silicon die size has increased drastically compared to the A5 at 165 mm2

But thats not the point, the point is the CPU portion of the SoC is the same, the A5X just has a huge ass GPU to run the retina display.

 

[rkuo]

CPU isn't the problem for generational OS upgrades ... it's GPU and RAM. The iPad 3 has plenty of RAM and it's still holding up OK on the GPU front. Not much practical reason to exclude it from iOS 8. Given the recency of the Mini introduction, I think we're safe on the iPad 3 being locked out of iOS upgrades for at least 1.5 years.

 

[The Doctor11]

I think it will. It should. I hope so.

 

[theromz]

iPad Mini will be out for awhile so there is no really reason the iPad2/3 won't be supported.

 

[mtneer]

iPad 2/3 gets iOS 8. No brainer.

You have to remember, Apple may have made iPad 3 purchases a bit unhappy by pulling it off the market after only 6 months. They will support it until at least 8, perhaps even longer. Probably won't run that great but it will look the part

I am not sure if pushing a slow as molasses iOS 8 onto iPad 3 users will make them any happier. In fact they may be happy using an older but snappier version of the OS. App support tends to drop off 2 to 3 generations behind the lead OS version - which could keep ipad 3 users on iOS 7 going for at least 2 - 3 more years.

 

[Plutonius]

Does anyone here think that the IPad 3 is going to get ios 8

Wait a few months and Apple will release the list on who's supported.

 

[aneftp]

Judging from history. Apple will stop iOS updates one year from the time iPad was last sold.

iPad 1 stopped selling March 2011. It didn't get ios6 (released Fall 2012).

If iPad 2 which was only stopped being sold Feb 2014 get ios8. iPad 3 will also get ios8. But frankly I would be hesitant to install it.

 

[MisakixMikasa]

Judging from history. Apple will stop iOS updates one year from the time iPad was last sold.

iPad 1 stopped selling March 2011. It didn't get ios6 (released Fall 2012).

If iPad 2 which was only stopped being sold Feb 2014 get ios8. iPad 3 will also get ios8. But frankly I would be hesitant to install it.

If that is true, then iPad 3 won't get the release, iPad 3 gets annexed around 2012.. No matter how you count it, one year has been past.

 

[threelions]

I'd be shocked if it didn't, it may not get all the features but it will get it.

 

[mangomind]

iOS 8 will feature speed, stability, smoothness, and performance improvements. All A5 powered devices will receive it.

In addition:
The iPhone 3GS was removed from Apples lineup when iOS 6 came out. It got iOS 6.
The iPhone 4 was removed when iOS 7 came out. It got iOS 7.
The iPhone 4S will be removed from the lineup when iOS 8 is released. It will get iOS 8.



The A5-powered iPad mini has only received one major update: iOS 7. It must receive iOS 8. End of discussion. Apple has always given iOS products at least 2 major updates.

 

[joshwithachance]

It definitely will. It has better internals than the original iPad mini, which has only received one update.

 

[Shanghaichica]

It definitely will. It has better internals than the original iPad mini, which has only received one update.

We don't know that the iPad mini first gen won't receive another update yet.

 

[Intell]

We don't know that the iPad mini first gen won't receive another update yet.

Its EULA stipulates that it must receive at least two iOS version updates.

 

[cynics]

I'd guess no. Just my opinion though.

By the time iOS 8 is released Apple will have stopped selling the iPad 3 for 2 years.

Performance of the iPad 3 was 'meh' at best. Dev's were dumbing down game graphics on the iPad 3 meanwhile not on the iPad 2. Granted the screen is better but what good is it if it can't be utilized. Even Apple saw this and nixed it. Just open up 3D flyover and flyover NYC. Its a TERRIBLE user experience.

Not hating, see sig. Just what I think...might be wrong who knows...

 

[MisakixMikasa]

Its EULA stipulates that it must receive at least two iOS version updates.

Which section of EULA states it must receive at least two iOS version update?

 

[Intell]

Which section of EULA states it must receive at least two iOS version update?

Section one of the iPad Software License:

Apple will provide you any iPad OS software updates that it may release from time to time, up to and including the next major iPad OS software release following the version of iPad OS software that originally shipped from Apple on your iPad, for free. For example, if your iPad originally shipped with iPad 3.x software, Apple would provide you with any iPad OS software updates it might release up to and including the iPad 4.x software release. Such updates and releases may not necessarily include all of the new software features that Apple releases for newer iPad models.

The iPhone's EULA states two, but the iPad's only states one free one. At one point there was concern that the third iOS version for the iPad would be a paid update.

 

[MisakixMikasa]

Section one of the iPad Software License:



The iPhone's EULA states two, but the iPad's only states one free one. At one point there was concern that the third iOS version for the iPad would be a paid update.

Well, the iOS 7 term and condition only states as follow:

Apple, at its discretion, may make available future iOS Software Updates for your iOS Device. The iOS Software Updates, if any, may not necessarily include all existing software features or new features that Apple releases for newer or other models of iOS Devices. The terms of this License will govern any iOS Software Updates provided by Apple that replace and/or supplement the Original iOS
Software product, unless such iOS Software Update is accompanied by a separate license in which case the terms of that license will govern.

This version does not stating how many update(s) Apple may offer. Possibly, none.

 

[Intell]

That's the iOS 7 EULA, not the iPad Mini EULA. One covers the software of that version, the other covers the hardware and software it can run.

 

[MisakixMikasa]

That's the iOS 7 EULA, not the iPad Mini EULA. One covers the software of that version, the other covers the hardware and software it can run.

But the agreement you need to agree when setup iPad is the iOS EULA.. The license agreement you found on your iPad in settings is still the iOS EULA... The exactly same quotation you quote can be found on license up to iPhone OS 3.1.

 

[Intell]

While very similar, the hardware EULA is not the same as the software EULA. The physical paper booklet for the iPad and other iOS devices contains the hardware EULA. It does contain a similar quotation as to the one I posted.

 

[MisakixMikasa]

While very similar, the hardware EULA is not the same as the software EULA. The physical paper booklet for the iPad and other iOS devices contains the hardware EULA. It does contain a similar quotation as to the one I posted.

Well...I certainly cannot found any booklet with new iPads... Only thing is two iPad info (English and French) and Apple stickers

 

[Xenomorph]

iPad 1: iOS 3, 4, 5

iPad 2: iOS 4, 5, 6, 7

iPad 3: iOS 5, 6, 7

While it is possible it may get dropped at iOS 7, I doubt it. Why? The RAM.

Devices with 1GB of RAM:

iPad 3, iPad 4, iPad 5/Air, iPad mini 2/Retina, iPhone 5, iPhone 5C, iPhone 5S

Basically, it's in the same league as those devices.