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iOS 8 Keyboards, 'Full Access', and User Privacy
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All the conspiracy nuts here who are afraid to use 3rd party keyboards because they track what you type are hilarious.
You're already using a smartphone. Your cellular carrier, and Apple, already knows exactly where you are, what you're doing, what data you're transmitting. And chances are the NSA already has their hands in the cookie jar as well.
Your complete privacy was broken the very second you turned on your smartphone, and yet you're afraid of a highly-rated 3rd party keyboard developer?
You're already using a smartphone. Your cellular carrier, and Apple, already knows exactly where you are, what you're doing, what data you're transmitting. And chances are the NSA already has their hands in the cookie jar as well.
Your complete privacy was broken the very second you turned on your smartphone, and yet you're afraid of a highly-rated 3rd party keyboard developer?
They are separate keyboards. When you type a password Apple's keyboard takes over.
Because facebook loves to record everything they will start buying 3rd party keyboards companies.
They like to have total control of what people do on the net, exactly like a government is in it strange, but anyway people trust them and they don't care sending all their info to instagram, whatsapp, facebook, and more.
How can you trust a 3rd party developer if they want full access. Why Apple let this and why the information is not encrypted, scrambled, or anything that could warranty safety.
They like to have total control of what people do on the net, exactly like a government is in it strange, but anyway people trust them and they don't care sending all their info to instagram, whatsapp, facebook, and more.
How can you trust a 3rd party developer if they want full access. Why Apple let this and why the information is not encrypted, scrambled, or anything that could warranty safety.
"As for those who choose to activate SwiftKey Cloud for improved predictions, Kutz notes that all data is fully encrypted in line with privacy protection laws and stored on Amazon S3 servers. Users can also opt out of SwiftKey Cloud at any time, which immediately deletes their data from SwiftKey's servers."
And do all copies in hourly/daily/weekly backups that were made while your data was sitting there get deleted too?
Don't put any of your stuff on anyone else's computer.
And do all copies in hourly/daily/weekly backups that were made while your data was sitting there get deleted too?
Don't put any of your stuff on anyone else's computer.
So? This is the same with every app you use. When you use Facebook, they can see all the info you enter there. When you use Twitter, they can see all of the info you enter there. Google takes every bit of what you enter there, from searches to emails and people are happy to use it.
You read the privacy policy and see what they're doing with your info and you decide if you're going to use it.
Spread the fear and outrage MacRumors.
How often do you enter your credit card or other sensitive information on those sites? And if you do, can you friend me please?
call me skeptical but isn't what I wrote the basis for a far better news story?
And you pretty much followed the same process for creating a "news" story as is followed by a lot of internet blogs these days...
Ok for all of you people paranoid about a third party keyboard having access to your personal love letters to your secret girlfriend that your wife doesn't know about. That is the least of your worries. The NSA already has those emails you sent her so the third party keyboard is just icing on the cake.
So they are the only one who lets you shut off full access? My daughter wants a keyboard like this, I'll have to look into this since you can disable full access.
THANKS!!!
No, they can't. Every app can record every key you type _while you are using that app_. They cannot get any keys that you type in any other app.
And without "Full access", keyboards can record anything you type, but they can't send it anywhere or tell anyone about it. So the "keyboard" knows all your secrets, but it's stuck inside your phone and can't do anything with your secrets.
"Apple itself" could in theory do lots of things to violate your privacy. They don't do this because (a) it doesn't serve any purpose for Apple; they make money from selling you hardware. (b) there could be a _huge_ legal liability if they did and it was found out. (c) there would be a _huge_ backlash if they did that could kill sales if they did and it was found out. And of course you would assume that (d) among all the Apple developers, there would be _someone_ with the honesty and guts to tell the world about this - it's not something that can be kept secret.
That would be nice but that function likely has a very strong patent behind it that's not being made available for license to Apple at a fair price.
Clearly everyone here runs their own email server and uses PGP encryption for everything. They also always browse the internet in privacy mode (of course they do it while on public wifi's to avoid being traced).
They also cant use touch id since it is easy to steal someones finger prints. Cant even use SMS since it is not encrypted.
All the conspiracy nuts here who are afraid to use 3rd party keyboards because they track what you type are hilarious.
You're already using a smartphone. Your cellular carrier, and Apple, already knows exactly where you are, what you're doing, what data you're transmitting. And chances are the NSA already has their hands in the cookie jar as well.
Your complete privacy was broken the very second you turned on your smartphone, and yet you're afraid of a highly-rated 3rd party keyboard developer?
While I agree in principle, it still seems to me to be cheap insurance to have as few fingers in the pie as possible. Giving yet another developer access is just yet another place you *could* lose data. Especially when it's entirely superfluous, it seems common sense to protect your data as much as you can rather than add yet another avenue for data mining.
Of course if you made a global switch to turn "Full Access" on for everybody. What I mean is a global switch to turn it off for everybody, no matter what access rights you gave to each keyboard. And without that global switch, everything has the rights that you gave it.
And all Apple had to EVER DO, was to write a small selection of their own custom keyboards, so people could pick one from the range of layouts Apple offered.
Only because Apple seem, as a company, unable to design any alternate keyboards do we even need to be going down this path in the 1st place.
Shame
And I'm convinced that Apple deliberately worded the warning to scare most people into sticking with the default keyboard.
Oh so only people that work at Apple are honest? You would think some lonely engineer at Swiftkey would keep his mouth shut?
Pretty Transparent
The allow full access warning couldn't have been more clear. I simply chose don't allow.
The allow full access warning couldn't have been more clear. I simply chose don't allow.
And you pretty much followed the same process for creating a "news" story as is followed by a lot of internet blogs these days...
are you saying i appear fully qualified for a new career?
It means that only Apple's keyboard can see what you type into a password field, and third party keyboards never, ever can.
As far as I know, it tries very hard to leave no traces of your browsing on your computer, or on your iOS device. For example, images won't be cached on your drive, only in memory. Things don't go into history and so on. (If any traces of your activity stay, that would be bug). It doesn't do anything to make your browsing invisible to the outside world.
The company is smaller. There are fewer engineers. You can keep 3 engineers quiet; you can't keep 1,000 engineers quiet. And the risk vs. reward is lower.
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Yes, but what is the NSA going to do with that information, verses what some company might do with that information, verses what some clown that breaks into some company's server going to do with that information? Big range of possibilities there (and more with passwords and such rather than with love letters).