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iOS 8 Now Installed on 68 Percent of Active iOS Devices
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Where is Horace Dediu when we need him? OK, the math is not too difficult. Let's assume the delta in iPhone sales between the second and third quarter is only due to iPhone 6 (Plus) sales. Thus we can take the total number of iPhones sold at the end of June 2014 and add the last quarter to get an estimate for all iPhones sold that came with iOS 7 or earlier pre-installed. When we get the number of iPhones sold in the previous quarter in two weeks or so and add the delta mentioned at the beginning, we get an estimate of how many iPhones were sold with iOS 8 pre-installed.
Repeat that with the iPad and the iPhone touch (numbers for the latter are harder to estimate but then it is also the iOS device with the lowest number of sales). Add some assumptions on devices that are no longer active and calculating what percentage of iOS 7 users actually upgraded to iOS 8 is a simple task.
Yes, this is the biggest issue with ios8. I guess they will be able to improve safari in future releases. If they don't it will be on purpose and not fair at all
"Fairness" and "Apple" don't really go in the same sentence WRT "supporting" old hardware. (Read: making them intentionally crippled by slowing them down. Or, 1, not allowing their users to downgrade 2, not allocating sufficient resources to make a properly optimized version. They do have the money and tons of engineers, still, they seem to be unable NOT to cripple their "old" models with the latest major iOS version. I am really not sure the crippling isn't intentional...)
Seems like they posted them to their developer support pages (which is what Google/Android does on a monthly basis) and they talk about them in various iOS/Developer events (which is what Google/Android does at their similar events).
Yes, developers will try to support as much as they can, but it's silly to say that they don't look at these figures or that for quite a few of them those figures don't play any role.
My phone is no slower on iOS 8. It's using a processor that's 2 years old. If I'm an anomaly, and the iPhone 5S is the oldest phone that can run iOS 8 smoothly, then your statement is still false.
Yup, in some cases, it might be worth looking at the figures; for example, WRT only using iOS7+ / iOS8+ API's / technologies (Metal etc.) or when starting a brand new app.
If one has apps in the AppStore since, say, 2008-2009, it's comparatively easy (it takes, say, about 10% of my full development & testing time) to make sure even the latest versions remain compliant with even the earliest (in this case, iOS4, which, because of blocks, I didn't want NOT to use) iOS versions during improving / developing the apps. Developers should do the same, and not only support the latest iOS versions.
Me too
Actually once one gets used to the bugs it's no different than driving a well used car.
Perhaps that's why I only buy new cars
I always saw this as a not-enough-memory issue. The more images are on a page the worse it gets and don't even think of how it performs with tons of animated gifs. It got worse on my iPad 3 with iOS 8 but it was already bad with iOS 7.
Maybe some are hardware, dunno but my 128 suffers from crashed apps and freezing for upto 10-15? Seconds . I had not issues when I bought it, but under 8.1.2 it's not a good experience, the little research I did seems to point to TLC memory used in the early 128 units, mine is one of those. If it does not get better I'm not going to waste more time on it and just book an appointment, and ask for a MLC model.
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Actually once one gets used to the bugs it's no different than driving a well used car.
Perhaps that's why I only buy new cars
Like one that pulls to the left when driving in a straight line
though when you jump in a new car it feels wrong, missing that natural left pullI've had the same issue with the camera app on an iPhone 5. I've had it crash, and just stop responding for minutes at a time, to the point where even the home button wont exit it. Quite annoying. I would definitely go back to iOS 7.x given the chance at this point.
This is such hogwash! The only reason you need to be on the most current version on any platform is if you need (like REALLY REALLY NEED) A very specific app that needs the most current versions. That's actually one of the reasons why I said goodbye to iOS. I shouldn't have to be on the latest os just to have an app with a simple use. Most people who are on older, unsupported OS's probably don't care about new apps. They probably have all the apps they need.
Developers who don't cater to at least iOS 6 are missing out on a lot of money. Their apps are also not very flexible. I won't install an app if only the last 2 is versions are supported.
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I have a 1 year old iPad Air (1st gen) and I will never update it past 7.1.2
Thank you Tim Cook, you have taught me a valuable lesson...and that lesson is that these days if you update the software on your device past the OS that came installed with it, you can count on that update negatively affecting said device.
Thank you Tim Cook, you have taught me a valuable lesson...and that lesson is that these days if you update the software on your device past the OS that came installed with it, you can count on that update negatively affecting said device.
The problem is that once you have installed iOS8 you cannot go back. Therefore, many people who heard about problems when iOS8 was launched won't even consider upgrading. It might sound funny, but I assume that iOS8 adoption would be higher if Apple allowed users to revert back to iOS7.1.2. Giving users a choice isn't a bad thing.
Seriously I've been telling people for the longest time that apple does engineered obsolescence. You need to be screwed over by apple yourself in order to be fed up with their crapple ways. My iPhone 4 ran best on iOS 5. IOS 6 shot it to hell and is what ultimately made me switch to android. Don't cripple my ****ing device that I paid for!! Thank you very much!!!
Alas, that is the only way we would be able to compare anything.
As it is, the adoption rate is a figure useful exclusively to developers deciding whether or not to support older versions. It certainly gives no indication of which version people prefer.
Giving users a choice isn't a bad thing, and giving half the chance, Apple would do this on the desktop if they wanted to.
I'm still running Mavericks and have no intention to upgrade to Yosemite because of bugs, and the only reason i have iOS8 is because i decided to upgrade because i liked extension support.... Realizing i can no longer go back would be *only* other reason for staying with iOS 8, otherwise if i wasn't happy, and i could go back, I would.
I'm still running Mavericks and have no intention to upgrade to Yosemite because of bugs, and the only reason i have iOS8 is because i decided to upgrade because i liked extension support.... Realizing i can no longer go back would be *only* other reason for staying with iOS 8, otherwise if i wasn't happy, and i could go back, I would.
Maybe some are hardware, dunno but my 128 suffers from crashed apps and freezing for upto 10-15? Seconds . I had not issues when I bought it, but under 8.1.2 it's not a good experience, the little research I did seems to point to TLC memory used in the early 128 units, mine is one of those. If it does not get better I'm not going to waste more time on it and just book an appointment, and ask for a MLC model.
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Like one that pulls to the left when driving in a straight line
Oh please, TLC NAND technology has nothing to do with that, unless your unit doesn't have a defective NAND (it could be).
I have a 64 Gb model and guess what, it's TLC.....
Couldn't just be a somewhat corrupted installation on your unit ?
Very little money. Those old device owners typically spend far less money on apps than new device owners or people who upgrade. Spending more than 10% of a developers valuable time to gain 2% or less more customers is too far down diminishing returns. That time is far better spent on new apps for the larger iOS version base.
Developers who cater to iOS 6 also have to design and code for two different UI paradigms, have old books and documents on those earlier OS versions, and keep around an old iOS 6 device for testing, instead of selling or upgrading it. This multiplies the test and QA costs by 2X. Once those obsolete books get shoveled off the bookstore shelves, the number of new developers who have any clue how to code for the old pre-7 UI becomes very small.
So, no money for developers. And no developers for you.
Never occurred to me. Never.
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That's plain false. Actually Apple is the only company really supporting 3+ years old hardware with the new software. Only on forum like this that could be seen like planned obsolescence......
But we know quite well how cool is for someone here to downplay Apple on almost every post....
Losing 1/3 of my battery life on the 4s when "upgrading" to iOS 7(spare me the tips/tricks, I tried them all). I get fantastic battery life on my 5s on 7.1.2
Fool me once...
Wrong...I still hated 7.
But 6 won't work on 5s so I had to take it even though I hated as much.
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Thank you!
Someone with a sane mind at last.
I found the exact same issues with the 6+ the first few hours I got mine on launch day. The software was horrible. I ended up returning it. I have since played with a 6+ running 8.1.2 and its not that much better. But there are SMALL improvements.
You must be one of the folks who recently jumped on the Apple bandwagon; let me have the pleasure of knocking you OFF. Back in the day (iphone 4, 4S, 5) the software was near perfection and very smooth. We have since lost fluidity with iOS 7/8, especially 8 on these new devices.