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Go to

http://google.com/voice


Get any random free phone number.

Then install "Google Voice" app from the App Store and log in.

Hangouts should then automatically integrate the Voice app and then you can make and receive calls from hangouts. For free. From anywhere on earth. It's why I think google is trying really hard to do away with Voice. They haven't figured out how to monetize it and it must be costing them serious $$$.
 
Slow internet, ugh

Go to

http://google.com/voice


Get any random free phone number.

Then install "Google Voice" app from the App Store and log in.

Hangouts should then automatically integrate the Voice app and then you can make and receive calls from hangouts. For free. From anywhere on earth. It's why I think google is trying really hard to do away with Voice. They haven't figured out how to monetize it and it must be costing them serious $$$.

Ok, downloading the app now, but my internet speed is 0.01 mbps :mad:.

EDIT: App done downloading
 
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Go to

http://google.com/voice


Get any random free phone number.

Then install "Google Voice" app from the App Store and log in.

Hangouts should then automatically integrate the Voice app and then you can make and receive calls from hangouts. For free. From anywhere on earth. It's why I think google is trying really hard to do away with Voice. They haven't figured out how to monetize it and it must be costing them serious $$$.

The hangouts phone works perfectly to call other phones.
 
Ok, downloading the app now, but my internet speed is 0.01 mbps :mad:.

EDIT: App done downloading

Your phone service will end? Wut? That's nuts. Are you reading that right? I and many millions of others have been using it for years? I don't know maybe they really are driving the final nails in the coffin now?

I think you're maybe reading it wrong or selecting a weird option? You aren't trying to port your phone number ba accident maybe?

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The hangouts phone works perfectly to call other phones.

Including non-hangouts phones - meaning any US phone number?
 
Your phone service will end? Wut? That's nuts. Are you reading that right? I and many millions of others have been using it for years? I don't know maybe they really are driving the final nails in the coffin now?

I think you're maybe reading it wrong or selecting a weird option? You aren't trying to port your phone number ba accident maybe?

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Including non-hangouts phones - meaning any US phone number?

Yeah, I tested on my iPhone that has a US phone number first, then I called my Chromebook with hangouts open. They both worked good. And about that thing with the service ending, I read the wrong thing.
 
Yeah, I tested on my iPhone that has a US phone number first, then I called my Chromebook with hangouts open. They both worked good. And about that thing with the service ending, I read the wrong thing.

Awesome. Thanks for checking all that out and congratulations, your iPod is now a phone too! My iPT arrives Friday I can hardly wait :)
 
What I'm most curious about is whether you can use the google Voice/Hangouts combo to make voice phone calls over wifi?

You can do that now on iOS 7, so I'm sure you can do the same on iOS 8, regardless of handoff or any other iOS 8 features.
 
You can do that now on iOS 7, so I'm sure you can do the same on iOS 8, regardless of handoff or any other iOS 8 features.

Maybe they wanted to know if the app would work with iOS 8 so they could upgrade without waiting for Google to update it.

(P.S. For the people who say the iPhone 4s will run iOS 8 better than the iPod touch 5, you're wrong. My old iPhone 4s ran iOS 8 beta so bad that I was forced to downgrade, my friend told me he had to go back to iOS 7 too. My iPod runs iOS 8 great. It's because the iPhone 4s has a 800MHz Dual Core Apple A5 processor, while the iPod touch 5 has a 1GHz Dual Core Apple A5 processor.)
 
For those of you still wondering...

For those of you still on this thread... Apple has just released iOS 8 Beta 4 and OS X Yosemite Beta 4. I am updating my MacBook and my iPod touch right now, so if you have any questions about the new update, I will be able to hopefully provide you with the answer when the updates are done.


**EDIT** Updates are done. Feel free to ask me anything.


--Johnny :apple:
 
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For those of you still on this thread... Apple has just released iOS 8 Beta 4 and OS X Yosemite Beta 4. I am updating my MacBook and my iPod touch right now, so if you have any questions about the new update, I will be able to hopefully provide you with the answer when the updates are done.


**EDIT** Updates are done. Feel free to ask me anything.


--Johnny :apple:

We'll just a generalized question about how it feels, whether it lags more or less than the previous beta and 7.1.2, and whether it or apps crash a lot, and any big obvious changes?
 
We'll just a generalized question about how it feels, whether it lags more or less than the previous beta and 7.1.2, and whether it or apps crash a lot, and any big obvious changes?

Sorry for not replying, I've been kinda busy.


My iPod lagged after I updated to beta 4, but I restarted my iPod and the lag went away.

How it feels: Same way beta 3 did. Maybe a bit faster.

Apps crash: The stock camera app sometimes crashes. I heard WhatsApp crashes on all the betas.

Big obvious changes: Bug reporter was removed, there is a new Tips app, the control center was completely redesigned.

Not that obvious changes: New Settings Menu for Display, Text Size, and Bold text. Minor tweaks to Multitasking mode’s frequent contacts section. New recording sound. You can connect to EU Internet with data roaming. Some "under the hood" fixes. Emoji face on keyboard is now happier. Tons of bug fixes. Probably new bugs.

Bugs that I have encountered: If I turn off my iPod, then turn it back on, I get the iPhone 5s "You need to unlock your iPod touch after restarting" message even though iPods don't have touch ID. Sometimes the keyboard is portrait, even though it's in landscape. App store sometimes doesn't load, so you have to close out of it, then open it back up. If I try to take a screenshot of the "You need to unlock your iPod touch after restarting" it will respring/crash.

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Sorry for not replying, I've been kinda busy.


My iPod lagged after I updated to beta 4, but I restarted my iPod and the lag went away.

How it feels: Same way beta 3 did. Maybe a bit faster.

Apps crash: The stock camera app sometimes crashes. I heard WhatsApp crashes on all the betas.

Big obvious changes: Bug reporter was removed, there is a new Tips app, the control center was completely redesigned.

Not that obvious changes: New Settings Menu for Display, Text Size, and Bold text. Minor tweaks to Multitasking mode’s frequent contacts section. New recording sound. You can connect to EU Internet with data roaming. Some "under the hood" fixes. Emoji face on keyboard is now happier. Tons of bug fixes. Probably new bugs.

Bugs that I have encountered: If I turn off my iPod, then turn it back on, I get the iPhone 5s "You need to unlock your iPod touch after restarting" message even though iPods don't have touch ID. Sometimes the keyboard is portrait, even though it's in landscape. App store sometimes doesn't load, so you have to close out of it, then open it back up. If I try to take a screenshot of the "You need to unlock your iPod touch after restarting" it will respring/crash.

Screenshots are attached.

Good update. Is there any chance you could screenshot the new Display Text Size settings menu or say something more about it? I'm curious as to whether there are new features/options for text, or whether there are just cosmetic changes in the menu itself.
 
Good update. Is there any chance you could screenshot the new Display Text Size settings menu or say something more about it? I'm curious as to whether there are new features/options for text, or whether there are just cosmetic changes in the menu itself.

They moved the Text Size settings and bold text from Accessiblity to the new menu. They also moved brightness from Wallpaper to the new menu. Also I now have a new bug, if I take a video/picture/screenshot, then go to the Photos app to view it, it's not there. When it starts working again I'll post an update here.
 
Sorry I haven't been able to post screenshots, it won't let me on the iPad. The reason why I am using my iPad is because my old MacBook from 2009 is basically dead. The plastic is chipping and cracking. It gets so hot I think it's going to burn a hole in the atmosphere or burn the house down. It randomly restarts sometimes. Battery life is bad. The charger failed and shocked me when I was typing, like wtf. Already replaced the hard drive back in 2012 after it failed.
It runs good, sometimes, but the exterior kinda fell apart...

It served me well, constantly working/developing apps/using Autodesk Maya/gaming/web surfing/etc, on it everyday. Probably have to get my old XP PC running, or buy a cheap chromebook. Hopefully I get a raise to buy the new rMBP, or if anyone knows of a cheap MBP.

I won't be able to test Yosemite for a bit, but if you really want me to I can. It works but I don't want to use it because who knows what will happen.

Might sell it on eBay or give it to my sister. If I do put it on eBay I'll tell you guys.

End of rant. :D
 
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Ever since I went to Mavericks on my late 2011 MBA it's been running super hot. I dual boot Windows 7 on it, but hadn't been on the Win7 side for a few months. I needed Windows for something the other day and as I was using it I was shocked that my MBA was running ice cold again the way it always used to. There is something seriously wrong with how OS X 9 and above are running on older Macs and I'm finding it hard to believe that Apple isn't doing this on purpose.
 
Ever since I went to Mavericks on my late 2011 MBA it's been running super hot. I dual boot Windows 7 on it, but hadn't been on the Win7 side for a few months. I needed Windows for something the other day and as I was using it I was shocked that my MBA was running ice cold again the way it always used to. There is something seriously wrong with how OS X 9 and above are running on older Macs and I'm finding it hard to believe that Apple isn't doing this on purpose.

You reminded me that I have a Mac 10.6 and Windows 8.1 partition. I booted up into the Snow Leopard partition and the fans did not kick on and it was ice cold. When I booted up Windows 8.1 the fans didn't kick on and it was cold too. I am typing this from the Snow Leopard partition right now, works super fast. It took me a while to remember how to use 10.6/Windows 8 after I was using 10.9/10.10 everyday.


Back to iOS 8. I recommend using beta 4 for daily usage.

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Bugs that I have encountered: If I turn off my iPod, then turn it back on, I get the iPhone 5s "You need to unlock your iPod touch after restarting" message even though iPods don't have touch ID. Sometimes the keyboard is portrait, even though it's in landscape. App store sometimes doesn't load, so you have to close out of it, then open it back up. If I try to take a screenshot of the "You need to unlock your iPod touch after restarting" it will respring/crash.

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I think that having to enter your passcode after restarting is a new security feature. Only the 5s had it in iOS 7, but it seems to be coming to all iOS 8 devices. It does disable Siri, notification center, control center, and the camera shortcut.
 
Did anyone try the latest beta yet? I think it came out yesterday?

Yes, and I regret downloading the update. My iPod has become very, very laggy. I thought it was like the other betas where it was laggy after updating, so I restarted it, and the lag was still there. I have restarted multiple times and I still have lag. It takes a long time to open some apps, Google Hangouts has some glitches now, iFunny now has graphical glitches, the springboard crashes a lot, Safari crashes when I search something just like it did in beta 1. This update has done more bad than good. I'm now keeping beta 4 on my iPad and iPhone, but my iPod is now stuck on beta 5. Apple must fix this if they want iOS 8 to be a big hit.
 
Yes, and I regret downloading the update. My iPod has become very, very laggy. I thought it was like the other betas where it was laggy after updating, so I restarted it, and the lag was still there. I have restarted multiple times and I still have lag. It takes a long time to open some apps, Google Hangouts has some glitches now, iFunny now has graphical glitches, the springboard crashes a lot, Safari crashes when I search something just like it did in beta 1. This update has done more bad than good. I'm now keeping beta 4 on my iPad and iPhone, but my iPod is now stuck on beta 5. Apple must fix this if they want iOS 8 to be a big hit.

Wow that's bad news. And unexpected. I had high hopes. I hope they're not doing it on purpose and plan to fix/optimize.

Bad Hangouts glitches?!? Is it still usable?
 
Sorry for not replying, I've been kinda busy.


My iPod lagged after I updated to beta 4, but I restarted my iPod and the lag went away.

How it feels: Same way beta 3 did. Maybe a bit faster.

Apps crash: The stock camera app sometimes crashes. I heard WhatsApp crashes on all the betas.

Big obvious changes: Bug reporter was removed, there is a new Tips app, the control center was completely redesigned.

Not that obvious changes: New Settings Menu for Display, Text Size, and Bold text. Minor tweaks to Multitasking mode’s frequent contacts section. New recording sound. You can connect to EU Internet with data roaming. Some "under the hood" fixes. Emoji face on keyboard is now happier. Tons of bug fixes. Probably new bugs.

Bugs that I have encountered: If I turn off my iPod, then turn it back on, I get the iPhone 5s "You need to unlock your iPod touch after restarting" message even though iPods don't have touch ID. Sometimes the keyboard is portrait, even though it's in landscape. App store sometimes doesn't load, so you have to close out of it, then open it back up. If I try to take a screenshot of the "You need to unlock your iPod touch after restarting" it will respring/crash.

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I get the same "You need to unlock your iPod touch after restarting" even though my iDevice does not have Touch ID
 
iOS 8 GM

I am downloading the GM Version right now. I'll see how it runs, then I will report back. I'm thinking of getting the iPhone 6 Plus too, so I will write about that when they come out.
 
I am downloading the GM Version right now. I'll see how it runs, then I will report back. I'm thinking of getting the iPhone 6 Plus too, so I will write about that when they come out.

Excellent. I'm looking forward to your next iOS review. I'm on the fence about iPhone 6. My 5s works fine and I like compactness in a phone - I loved my RAZR back in the day for its size and my iPod Touch5 for the same reason. If they made an iPhone the same size as the Touch5 that would have blown me away and I would preorder immediately. As it stands, I'll probably go to an Apple store in a few months and look over the phones - I might impulse purchase at that point or maybe just walk away.
 
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