Agreed. The dock in 7.1 looks way too simple, like a quick 5-minute afterthought. It looks too cheap and nasty, and also spoils wallpapers.
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iOS 8... please restore iOS 6 look and signal bars
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Agreed. The dock in 7.1 looks way too simple, like a quick 5-minute afterthought. It looks too cheap and nasty, and also spoils wallpapers.
I 100% disagree with all of that. Drop shadows, reflection, gloss, all that is quality to me. These are what video games and movies strive for, making what is on the screen look vivid. Plots aside, quality of movies are often in the effects. On any screen, I think those standards should apply (i.e. Phone and PC UI). Its my opinion, but there was nothing busy about the old UI; it added depth and detail. The horrendously plain is what gives me the eyesore, there is nothing appealing, nothing to draw your eyes, its mostly white with a slosh of color. You may see subtle attractiveness, I see emphasized emptiness. It is all subjective, but when I see a diamond on a screen, Id like it to look like a 3D diamond, not like 2D drawing on paper.
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See, even with the skeumorphism gone these apps look great. Why didn't they just do this?
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As someone posted earlier, here's what you described in a picture, and while using words it was possible to make the "complex" one sound outdated and busy and an eyesore somehow, and make the "flattened" sound like some amazing new and great thing, a picture comparison will easily tell the opposite story no matter who looks at it:
LOL okay bud. Sure. That's the comparison.
I can't really get annoyed though. I mean Apple's moving in the right direction, so at the end of the day I guess you're the one who's gonna have to get your head on straight here.
Onward to iOS8!!
iOS 8... please restore iOS 6 look and signal bars
The cell phone was invented in the 90s. We should all stop using our iPhones and then we won't have people complaining about every single nitpick thing.
90s means it's no good anymore? I guess we should stop using the internet since it more or less became widely public in the 90s and thefore simply can't be useful or good by that standard.
The cell phone was invented in the 90s. We should all stop using our iPhones and then we won't have people complaining about every single nitpick thing.
Sure, there's no public facing indicator, no counters saying "another tick for skeuomorphism" or whatnot, so it's hard to take faith in it.
However, as someone who's worked for Apple as a Genius, as a technician for an AASP and now as a Mac systems admin I have several unofficial contacts (read as friends) within Apple and several official contacts through enterprise support and systems engineering. In addition I, along with many who've attended similar, have repeatedly heard from Apple spokespeople in attendance at Apple centric conferences over many years that this is how it is behind the doors at 1 Infinite Loop.
Take my word or don't, makes no difference to me. However I do feel it's silly to discount a direct open channel to a company and to instead stick to voicing complaints to a forum instead.
Thanks for this post!!
Today as we know iOS 7, everything before is looking cluttered. Even my father said that with iOS 7 everything looks more clear and is better to read, as example for people saying iOS 7 is hard to read... You are in the minority and are just looking for some points to make.. iOS 7 is actually more readable.
No it's not, iOS 7 is less readable but it's still tolerable, just look at the text on the left, your eyes pick up what they say more quickly than on the right. With iOS 7 the text blends in more easily.
Hell, I used to develop 8-bit games in assembler and the graphics were terrible... it's all the rage now. You never heard of "retro" rasputin?
I am just gonna say, to represent the quiet majority, that I love iOS 7... It works great, looks great and is a vast improvement over the previous versions. You may dislike it but don't be fooled into thinking that you are with the majority.
Not exactly so quiet really based on many threads and posts. There are those who like it, and those who don't. Quite a bit is based on mostly subjective things one way or another, and a few things here and there are based on more objective things, also one way or the other.
My only point was that the most vocal people are the dissatisfied which makes people think they're in the minority because the people who like it are less likely to speak up.
It just seems an odd complaint to me care what shape the signal bars take? I am visually impaired so I love the dots but it is really insignificant.
In general what you are saying is usually true, however, although there are certainly more threads about all kinds of complaints, quite a few replies (sometimes even the majority) in those threads are from people who aren't having any issues and/or think iOS 7 is great or at least better, so in that sense, it seems like that group of people is not really all that silent nor a minority necessarily.
As for the dots and bars, it's one of the more subjective things, some might like it some might not, it doesn't really affect anything specifically in any way more than just preference. But given a discussion forum like this one, nothing really odd about discussing differences in something or something new.
Except there are those who bash the entire OS over something trivial like signal bars/dots.....
All-in-all, I'd say any complaints with iOS 7 itself are subjective. Any complaints related to performance issues are partially subjective, partially just complaints about old tech/technology in general.
In the end, I expect iOS 8 to refine the base set in iOS 7. Further UI refinements, big fixes and some additional features. Essentially, what updates 2-6 were before the big change in 7.
Every 6-8 years, people are going to have to have a little more patience. There will be a larger than usual update that may take a little longer to make perfect. Heck, we were on the 6th revision of iOS 1 (imo) and it still had its quirks.
These are some things people need to keep in mind when upgrading/updating:
(1) Battery life ALWAYS takes a hit immediately after an update. Go Google it - there are complaint threads for the last I don't know how many iOS updates talking about that particular update killing battery life. It works itself out.
(2) iOS 7 was NOT a typical update and should not be treated as such. Subsequent updates will be more in-line and normal compared to 2-6. Basically we get a big change, then 5 years of refinement, then big change, and so on.
(3) Newer devices will ALWAYS run better than older devices. And older devices will slow down no matter what software they are running. If you care about speed and performance, don't sit on a device that's 4 years old.
(4) Updating the software is always better than not. Give yourself a chance to get used to it. It's not that bad. And you gain additional features and fixes you didn't have before. There are tons of iOS 7 specific features I use everyday that I wouldn't want to be without now. Change isn't scary - just relax and tap "install".
(5) The MAJORITY (I'm talking 99%) will have relatively no issues with new devices or software. There are hundreds of millions of iOS devices in the wild. the million or two that have problems make up a VERY insignificant (statistically) portion of the consumer populous.
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Right because a CGI gecko is the same as a felt pool table on my phone.....
Not even close to the same thing.
No thanks. I like iOS7 and its signal bars (like battery indicators of the laptops). If they went back to iOS 6 design i'd stay on iOS 7 for as long as possible.
I'm glad Ive took over and i'm looking forward to what he does with OS X.
Its funny, before iOS 7 came everyone was crying that "iOS was stale and WP8 and Android were better". Now they've redesigned and added features the new complaint is "its ugly, iOS 6 was better"
Some think Snow Leopard was the best thing since slice bread. Watch them whine about OS X 10.10 when it comes out and pine for Mavericks...saying it was the best Apple has come out with."
The capriciousness of consumers never ceases to amaze me.
I'm glad Ive took over and i'm looking forward to what he does with OS X.
Its funny, before iOS 7 came everyone was crying that "iOS was stale and WP8 and Android were better". Now they've redesigned and added features the new complaint is "its ugly, iOS 6 was better"
Some think Snow Leopard was the best thing since slice bread. Watch them whine about OS X 10.10 when it comes out and pine for Mavericks...saying it was the best Apple has come out with."
The capriciousness of consumers never ceases to amaze me.
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Given that they both deal with just purely subjective looks of something imaginary, they are essentially the same thing as far as the comparisons they are used for go.
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iOS 6 was the best OS Apple ever made for the iPhone. And the iPhone 4S is the sexiest iPhone model too. I wish my 4 was a 4S. I could use Siri and the upgraded speed.
I don't want to touch iOS 7 at all. So much that I'm thinking on what to do about a new phone. Windows phone... Android.... flip phone and use my old 4 for apps at home... I dunno. Apple is slipping.
iOS 8... please restore iOS 6 look and signal bars
No but the representation and reason for each is completely different.
So we should make everything look like the "real counterpart" - meaning what exactly? What if kids in 50 years have never seen a legal pad? What if their not taking apparatus is speaking - should the note look like a person talking? And I mean literally, as real as can be.....
It's not a good comparison at all. One is a live animal being used as a marketing gimimick. Any representation should look real (at least for professional purposes) - a gecko won't ever look like a parrot. Whereas the interpretation that a note app for instance should always look like a legal pad is just wrong....
No but the representation and reason for each is completely different.
So we should make everything look like the "real counterpart" - meaning what exactly? What if kids in 50 years have never seen a legal pad? What if their not taking apparatus is speaking - should the note look like a person talking? And I mean literally, as real as can be.....
It's not a good comparison at all. One is a live animal being used as a marketing gimimick. Any representation should look real (at least for professional purposes) - a gecko won't ever look like a parrot. Whereas the interpretation that a note app for instance should always look like a legal pad is just wrong....
Hell no! I don't want to blind my eyes with all that whiteness and cotton candy that is iOS 7. I'm happy with iOS 6!
Hell no! I don't want to blind my eyes with all that whiteness and cotton candy that is iOS 7. I'm happy with iOS 6!
Lol, don't let yourself get carried away....
The hyperbole is hilarious. I've been using it for months - still have 20/20 vision. Nothing about this is "blinding" or "cotton candy".
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You're free to live in 2011 for as long as you want. The rest of us will move on and enjoy the added features, better performance and sleeker look.
iOS 8... please restore iOS 6 look and signal bars
Ok? White background - as opposed to what....yellow paper? You say blinding, I say clean. There were plenty of apps with white backgrounds before iOS 7 - we're they "blinding" too?
Oh - guess what. Printer paper is white. So is most notebook paper
Blinding!!!!!!
Ok? White background - as opposed to what....yellow paper? You say blinding, I say clean. There were plenty of apps with white backgrounds before iOS 7 - we're they "blinding" too?
Oh - guess what. Printer paper is white
. So is most notebook paper Blinding!!!!!!
My single most wanted thing for iOS8 would be the re-introduction of buttons. As a developer, I have _never_ had a client who wanted their app's buttons to look like Web 1.0 HTML links. And that's a fairly vocal majority. No-one wants buttons to look like links did when the web looked crap.
As for the rest of it, I've had plenty of time to get used to it and when I do use pre-7 now it feels somewhat... heavy?
As for the rest of it, I've had plenty of time to get used to it and when I do use pre-7 now it feels somewhat... heavy?
Oh - guess what. Printer paper is white
Blinding!!!!!!
Printer paper and notebook paper do not have bright LEDs behind then. If they did, they WOULD be blinding.