No matter how much of manual controls, you won't get a DSLR out of a phone camera. Those control helps but not make it better especially if you don't know what you're doing with them. In that sense, I was very impressed by the exposure adjustment demo Apple showed during iOS 8 announcement, which seems to be more along the line of Steve Jobs style feature that the system is simplifying the usage for the user.
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iOS 8 to Expand Manual Controls for iPhone Photographers
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You can allow it to focus and adjust then lock the AE/AF if you want to be able to shoot quickly without having to readjust.
Raw support
There are compressed RAW formats. Canon CR2 and Adobe DNG both nondestructively compress RAW for example
And to whomever said it's a "fail" on 8G iPhone- no one says you have to turn that option on. Let's not push for least common denominator features. Look to the future.
There are compressed RAW formats. Canon CR2 and Adobe DNG both nondestructively compress RAW for example
And to whomever said it's a "fail" on 8G iPhone- no one says you have to turn that option on. Let's not push for least common denominator features. Look to the future.
There are compressed RAW formats. Canon CR2 and Adobe DNG both nondestructively compress RAW for example
And to whomever said it's a "fail" on 8G iPhone- no one says you have to turn that option on. Let's not push for least common denominator features. Look to the future.
I look at the past, because looking at the past, it always seems to repeat itself, its inevitable.
I meant you cannot force the current (pre-IOS8) iOS camera in any way to use a shutter speed of at least 1/250s if it means having to use an ISO higher than the base ISO. This is why the iOS camera is (has been) useless in this scenario.
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Of course you won't. It's only the Nokia 808 that can, in some way, match DSLR's, and only WRT effective resolution. (But not DR / noise / RAW support / AF speed.)
Nevertheless, full manual control is a godsend, particularly because previously the iPhone camera was completely useless under certain circumstances because of the complete lack of manual control and the system's always striving to use as low ISO as possible, making it impossible to shoot for example action under worse light. (See my prev. posts.)
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Wrong. WP Nokias do have RAW, unlike, regrettably, iOS8.
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You will have it in iOS8. And it's working wonderfully.
I, again, recommend checking out my own camera app at https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=19223035 . If you have a friend that can compile & deploy iOS sources for you, you can start using it now.
I see what you mean. I admit that I skimmed the article and didn't research much and thought the shutter speed was fixed. You're right about that.
The real issue is color balance, and highlight and shadow detail. if it looks like black on a jpeg, you won't be able to lift the shadows. Not so with raw.
A what kind of phone?
HTC 8S - I only have it because I don't want to spend more than £25 on a phone a month as I'm a student and I'm not a fan on Android as I had real bad experience before ( though with windows phone I feel app less so I don't know what to do - see what windows phone 8.1 does and then maybe go for another windows phone or Andorid when my contract runs out).
You don't know what you're talking about. They did deliver, and it's available on several Windows Phones right now, along with manual controls.
This is only possible if the RAW format has a bit depth greater than 8bit/ch. I guess with the iPhone this is probably not the case (at least not without any tweaks, like combining multiple exposures to enhance depth).
Late to the game? How so? No Phone manufacturer provides such controls, let alone provide them on a quality phone camera.
Mac Rumors must have a new writer, and I dislike their style. Over the last few days ive noticed most of the pieces when describing a few points always the the very annoying .....and more at the end of the sentence. The piece about the Amazon phone was covered in this awful style of writing. Its lazy.
I wouldn't be so sure. Modern image sensors usually have a greater dynamic range than a jpeg can represent. Giving us access to the RAW file means we could adjust the exposure a lot more without introducing noise.
I have a Nokia 520 as well and I really like it sometimes more than my iPhone. Running WP 8.1 makes it on par with iOS i feel.
I like how it is the normal controls, until you open it up to all of the full controls
For standard too advanced users
Looks pretty awesome!
It is.....
interesting to see how a device, as cell phone, had evolved to do more things than originally conceived. I think that is the reason more and more cell phones are not more "normal cell phones" and become "smartphones". I know for sure people what value things like bigger screen sizes and,yes, camera abilities in their phones.....I think Apple is pushing toward better camera management in the iPhone because the competition have very good offers. Nokia phones are preferred by some people for their cameras, having even some 41-megapixels model. Obviously, a powerful camera without equal powerful controls is not so good.....
And yet, too many people will end with an expensive camera.....(not so expensive as many DSLR s).....
interesting to see how a device, as cell phone, had evolved to do more things than originally conceived. I think that is the reason more and more cell phones are not more "normal cell phones" and become "smartphones". I know for sure people what value things like bigger screen sizes and,yes, camera abilities in their phones.....I think Apple is pushing toward better camera management in the iPhone because the competition have very good offers. Nokia phones are preferred by some people for their cameras, having even some 41-megapixels model. Obviously, a powerful camera without equal powerful controls is not so good.....
And yet, too many people will end with an expensive camera.....(not so expensive as many DSLR s).....
Color balance can be fixed with any bit depth. While iOS has excellent automatic WB, in some cases it can too be fooled (e.g., flourescent lighting).
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... because they're too dumb for a much more capable camera (or, in general, phone / any UI) interface?
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Also add that iOS has very strong and destructive noise reduction. It'd be great to be able to have access to the non-NR'ed originals, as is the case with Nokia's handsets.
Too bad Apple still refuses to give us RAW access.
It has a fixed aperture. I think f/2.2 or something like that. Having variable aperture like a DSLR lens would necessitate the lens being larger.
I don't know what the smallest variable/adjustable aperture lens would be.
Sorry to dissapoint you, but Nokia delivered months ago.
http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/10/29/another-nokia-first-digital-negatives-raw-dng-lumia/
http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/11/20/nokia-camera-raw-dng-support-available-now/
Lumia 1020, 1520, Icon/930 and probably all other future "Pureview" camera phones.
Luckily none of them was ever shipped with 8BG storage. 32GB or 16GB+MicroSD (up to 128GB)
And (almost?) all Lumia phones have manual control for shutter speed, aperture, focus, iso... from even earlier.
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