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sero323

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Jul 20, 2011
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The reason I say that is because at some point pulled engineers from OSX to help with iOS 7. So I believe iOS 7 never fully got done so they decided to make the apps just work and build features later on. I really think iOS 8 will be what apple planned for iOS 7.
 

sonicrobby

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Apr 24, 2013
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I hope so. Apple worked and released iOS7 in less than a year. And I think it is far from perfect. The main reason Ive loved Apple is because they didnt really care what the competition had, they released features, products, and software when it was 100% stable and performed flawlessly. Ever since iOS6, they have just been messing it up. The whole Apple Maps fiasco being rushed out, now a whole new OS from the ground up in the same timeframe where they used to make minor changes? Its ridiculous...
 

ethanlee

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Jun 12, 2011
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The reason I say that is because at some point pulled engineers from OSX to help with iOS 7. So I believe iOS 7 never fully got done so they decided to make the apps just work and build features later on. I really think iOS 8 will be what apple planned for iOS 7.

If Apple had decided to release iOS 7 as "not fully done," they wouldn't have pulled engineers out in the first place...? :confused:
 

WeegieMac

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Jan 29, 2008
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At the end of the iOS 7 promo video, Jony says a line I think is quite important.

"iOS 7 represents in many ways a beginning".

iOS 7 is step one on a whole new journey for iOS, it's the current generation of iDevice's "iPhone OS 1" ... from this point we go again. Who knows what comes next, but iOS 7 is the foundation of what's to come.
 

ethanlee

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Jun 12, 2011
142
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California
I hope so. Apple worked and released iOS7 in less than a year. And I think it is far from perfect. The main reason Ive loved Apple is because they didnt really care what the competition had, they released features, products, and software when it was 100% stable and performed flawlessly. Ever since iOS6, they have just been messing it up. The whole Apple Maps fiasco being rushed out, now a whole new OS from the ground up in the same timeframe where they used to make minor changes? Its ridiculous...

There are admittedly many things wrong with iOS 7, and it is definitely not as refined as some of the other GM's we've seen. But I think it's an important step for Apple because it proves that they can still "self-cannabalize" their current direction or paradigm to take off in a completely different direction, something that Apple was known for under Steve Jobs.
 

aristobrat

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Oct 14, 2005
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The reason I say that is because at some point pulled engineers from OSX to help with iOS 7. So I believe iOS 7 never fully got done so they decided to make the apps just work and build features later on. I really think iOS 8 will be what apple planned for iOS 7.
Apple pulled off writing a 32-bit version of iOS 7 (that everyone tested this summer), and a 64-bit version of iOS 7 (and the major apps) that nobody knew about until last week. If anything, that last part was why the OS X engineers got pulled.

I think it's fair to say that iOS 7 is the new starting point (like how iOS 3 was), and to your point, yeah, they will be adding stuff on from there.

But no, I wouldn't say iOS 7 "never got fully done".
 

pmau

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Nov 9, 2010
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iOS 7 is actually quite good. If you are able to look past the design flaws (not the design itself) and try out the new API's, you will see that Apple has indeed worked on iOS quite a lot.

The look can be improved, features will come over time with updates.

Regardless of what most people are saying, it's still fun to work with.

PS: Sorry, can't resist. If you ever tried to program a half decent App for Android on 3 different devices, you would pray to all gods of the known universe to thank them for iOS.
 

sero323

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Jul 20, 2011
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iOS 7 is actually quite good. If you are able to look past the design flaws (not the design itself) and try out the new API's, you will see that Apple has indeed worked on iOS quite a lot.

The look can be improved, features will come over time with updates.

Regardless of what most people are saying, it's still fun to work with.

PS: Sorry, can't resist. If you ever tried to program a half decent App for Android on 3 different devices, you would pray to all gods of the known universe to thank them for iOS.

I agree. iOS is the BEST platform for developers and I personally love developing for it. And I actually don't have any problems on how iOS 7 works but I don't think it ever got fully complete so they make it work with out bugs until later to add more to it. One good example is the Calendar app...the iPad version is a joke with all the extra white spaces with the blown up iPhone version and so little information. I understand it suppose to be simple but simple doesn't mean less information.
 

jtfolden

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Jul 16, 2002
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Springfield, Ohio
The reason I say that is because at some point pulled engineers from OSX to help with iOS 7. So I believe iOS 7 never fully got done so they decided to make the apps just work and build features later on. I really think iOS 8 will be what apple planned for iOS 7.

No, I think iOS 7 is exactly what they wanted just as much as iOS 6 was, etc... iOS 7 changed very little over it's beta period. They already had a very firm idea of what they wanted to release.
 

TrenttonY

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Nov 14, 2012
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I think from iOS 1 - 6 they perfected iOS so that's why they couldn't do anymore cool stuff. But know its a whole redesign they can keep changing stuff because its not perfect yet.
 

Vegasryn

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Mar 31, 2010
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iOS 2 Will Be What iOS 1 Should of Been

iOS 3 Will Be What iOS 2 Should of Been

iOS 4 Will Be What iOS 3 Should of Been

iOS 5 Will Be What iOS 4 Should of Been

iOS 6 Will Be What iOS 5 Should of Been

iOS 7 Will Be What iOS 6 Should of Been

....etc etc. This is said every year..
 

hobbbz

macrumors 6502a
Mar 8, 2005
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iOS 2 Will Be What iOS 1 Should of Been

iOS 3 Will Be What iOS 2 Should of Been

iOS 4 Will Be What iOS 3 Should of Been

iOS 5 Will Be What iOS 4 Should of Been

iOS 6 Will Be What iOS 5 Should of Been

iOS 7 Will Be What iOS 6 Should of Been

....etc etc. This is said every year..

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GreyOS

macrumors 68040
Apr 12, 2012
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iOS 2 Will Be What iOS 1 Should of Been

iOS 3 Will Be What iOS 2 Should of Been

iOS 4 Will Be What iOS 3 Should of Been

iOS 5 Will Be What iOS 4 Should of Been

iOS 6 Will Be What iOS 5 Should of Been

iOS 7 Will Be What iOS 6 Should of Been

....etc etc. This is said every year..

Let me save you some time ;)

iOS n+1 Will Be What iOS n Should of [sic] Been
 
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fark

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Aug 13, 2013
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The reason I say that is because at some point pulled engineers from OSX to help with iOS 7. So I believe iOS 7 never fully got done so they decided to make the apps just work and build features later on. I really think iOS 8 will be what apple planned for iOS 7.

And iOS9 will be what iOS8 should have been, iOS10 will be what iOS9 should have been. It'd be nice if the complainers would find something new to complain about.
 

sero323

macrumors regular
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Jul 20, 2011
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If Apple had decided to release iOS 7 as "not fully done," they wouldn't have pulled engineers out in the first place...? :confused:

Well i think apple pulled the engineers because iOS 7 needed to be in stable condition. I don't think apple would've used OSX engineers to develop features for iOS.

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No, I think iOS 7 is exactly what they wanted just as much as iOS 6 was, etc... iOS 7 changed very little over it's beta period. They already had a very firm idea of what they wanted to release.

Clearly...i believe they wanted to stay with what they could do to have iOS 7 stable for now...usually we do not see any big features in the betas anyway
 

alice04

macrumors regular
Feb 15, 2013
136
1
No, I think iOS 7 is exactly what they wanted just as much as iOS 6 was, etc... iOS 7 changed very little over it's beta period. They already had a very firm idea of what they wanted to release.

Is the iOS 7 GM a good update? I'm wondering if it's also a beta or not
 

Chumkiu

macrumors member
May 23, 2008
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Hollywood
It blows my mind that people can constantly write, argue and speculate about things that have been discussed time and time again..

You can bet one thing... the power users of iOS 7 and the ones getting the most out of it aren't sitting on forums all day talking about what could have been and what will be... just USE it and keep it moving..
 
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