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Doesn't Pencil already have pressure sensing? How will surface pressure make a difference then?

It isn't pressure sensitive. Paper 53 has an algorithm that relates stroke speed to line width. It sounds funky--but it really works pretty well.

I would add I found the "pencil" hardware to be of good quality and did not have tip wear or other issues. Palm rejection worked well. I just dont iike soft tipped stulus's.
 
Will this dramatically change the way we interact with iOS? Right now things are either touch or not touched. But will buttons now react to touch with tip of finger or whole finger smushed down? I wonder if animations can be made to feel more physical by taking advantage of this. A small fingertip touch would be considered light, but a larger fingertip will be interpreted as a hard push and it would be created by the user smushing down more of the fingertip onto the glass.

I think you're right. For games especially, but not just that: I envision the OS detecting any hesitant touch and popping up a confirmation dialog:

You don't seem all that into it.
[I guess not.] [No, really! I am!]
 
Not that I'm any good at drawing but I just can't get used to these stylus pens. To me they just don't feel right, I think it has something to do with the nibs being so large and squidgy!

I would really like to be able to take notes on my iPad with a thin nibbled stylus just like a pen and paper....although I guess that will never happen.

Check out the Lynktec Apex Rechargeable-- I got one a month or so ago and now use it all the time for note taking on my Air (Notes Plus). It completely replaced my large-nibbed stylus and using it is a lot like a real pen.

Adonit has a fine-point stlylus too, but Adonit's has bluetooth which is something I didn't want to have to deal with. Lynktec's doesn't require bluetooth and has no batteries to replace.
 
I really truly want a proper, Wacom-like stylus for iPad. That would open up a completely new world of possibilities of thigs to do with iPad. Finger is NOT always the best input.
 
Will this work for a Mac too? Any recommended alternatives ?

as mentioned, wacom. the cintiqs specifically (stylus & 'tablet' system) are a dreamy dream. i have the 2011 model 12wx, it's like holding the future in your hands (moreso with the newer 13" cordless version, i'd imagine). once you feel the precision, it's a similar sensation to picking up a tablet or smartphone for the first time. i'll upgrade to a 24" as soon as i can afford it.
 
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I really truly want a proper, Wacom-like stylus for iPad. That would open up a completely new world of possibilities of thigs to do with iPad. Finger is NOT always the best input.

its called ipad--and you write on pads. apple has scores of pen patents. i just dont get it :mad:
 
Yeah!

Now I wish I could have full Photoshop and Illustrator without the Adobe Cloud. No subscriptions. I just want to buy the apps and continue to work on all of my files. I do not care if it is from Adobe. In fact given Adobe's awful history I would prefer that someone else bring out competing applications that read and write all versions of Adobe files and do all the stuff of Photoshop and Illustrator. Time for some competition in that field.
 
I STILL don't own an iPad, though I have been trying to justify getting one since they came out. This stylus will be feel like an antiquated piece of junk compared to what is on a Surface Pro or a Samsung Note (or a Wacom tablet). I'd buy it in a heartbeat if they finally included an active digitizer, removed latency when drawing, and decreased the distance between the glass and the screen... this would be FAR better than the toy-like pen input available for iPads. If they don't come out with something in the next year, I'll likely get a Surface instead.. downgrading from osX to Windows might be worth it to me for the pen input.
 
While this is an excellent development (and I love the simplicity), I'm pretty excited about Adobe's event tomorrow will they will likely announce a ship date for Project Mighty. For those who don't know, Project Mighty is a collaboration between Adobe and Adonit, one of the best stylus manufacturers for iPad. It uses a small nib and Bluetooth 4.0 LE to connect and send data back to the iPad such as pressure sensitivity, and I also believe it's rumored to have tilt sensitivity. It's able to use a small nib because it reflects the capacitance signature from the touchscreen back at the device faking a larger area of touch without blocking your view. I'm definitely buying that thing day one. It's everything I ever wanted in a stylus—aside from Apple incorporating the technology directly into the iPad.
 
I would really like to be able to take notes on my iPad with a thin nibbled stylus just like a pen and paper....although I guess that will never happen.

check out equil -- you can take notes w/ their pen on real paper, saved to your ipad.

http://www.myequil.com/

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For the price of about 6-8 ios pens i bought a surface pro 1 on sale and i have never looked back. "It just works".

except that it runs windows, which means it doesnt just work...
 
While touch pressure sensitivity is nice. What I really want is super low latency of the screen so when you write there is absolutely no lag at all.

That's the biggest issue with the iPad, with surface it's basically zero lag


I don't know how artists use the iPad for design with that lag
 
Surface Pressure isn't such a good name now that Microsoft has assigned a negative connotation to the word "surface", especially when it has to do with a tablet computer. :p

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Love paper as an app, but the paper "pencil" is of the soft foam type and I spent exactly 10 minutes with my $60 purchase before resolving never to get sucked into ipad pen hell again. For the price of about 6-8 ios pens i bought a surface pro 1 on sale and i have never looked back. "It just works".

For the price of zero Surface Pros, I got a cheap laptop from an e-waste drive that's more useful than any tablet computer.
 
It's not a stylus...

At least that's what Steve Jobs always said....

It's a stylus with more features :)

Actually, technically, its not even a pen. it just looks like one.
 
It's not a stylus...
At least that's what Steve Jobs always said....
It's a stylus with more features :)
Actually, technically, its not even a pen. it just looks like one.

The Jobs thing is interesting. I think he would have disliked the Samsung UI--where the pen is emphasized as a navigation device. In windows--the pen is just a pen.
 
Thick pens do not allow delicate drawings. Apple should simply get Wacoms S-Pen, it's by far the best pen on the market and by far the best what was every created for writing on pads.

The idea to use fingers to write is a good idea, but after Kindergarten it doesn't really appeal to me any more.
 
Stylist

There are several third party pressure sensitive stylist that work on iPads & Mac touch pads for handwriting & sketching.
 
There are several third party pressure sensitive stylist that work on iPads & Mac touch pads for handwriting & sketching.

Maybe so, but the latency parallax issues make them all feel like clumsy toys compared to a Wacom tablet, Galaxy Note or Surface pro. Having pen input as a workaround or afterthought is not the same as designing a device to do it.
 
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