Well now there are more possible update scenarios to check. The number of devices supported has increased. Then the iPad can be Wi-Fi only or LTE and older devices have CDMA or GSM versions and then you have updates through itunes or over the air and finally there is the history of the device (was it registered to different itune accounts in the past).I don't want to do the math but there are a lot of scenarios. For example on a recent update there was a specific problem that only happened with iPad 2 GSM with an over the air update. They should check all of these of course but frankly I am not surprised some things are falling through the cracks.
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iOS 9.3.2 Bricking Some 9.7-inch iPad Pro Devices With 'Error 56' Message [Updated]
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Well now there are more possible update scenarios to check. The number of devices supported has increased. Then the iPad can be Wi-Fi only or LTE and older devices have CDMA or GSM versions and then you have updates through itunes or over the air and finally there is the history of the device (was it registered to different itune accounts in the past).I don't want to do the math but there are a lot of scenarios. For example on a recent update there was a specific problem that only happened with iPad 2 GSM with an over the air update. They should check all of these of course but frankly I am not surprised some things are falling through the cracks.
Would you expect anything less from a site that now seems to have gone down the BGR path and allowed the trolls to take over the comments sections just to get clicks?
Really???
That's what we get when we allow the trolls to run rampant!
Amazing how places like this just focus on the negative narrative, because it brings in the page clicks, really sad how far this place, and other's like it have fallen...
True. Operating Systems are at the point where it is too complex and harder to clean. I'm working on an issue with my roommate's new Windows 10 PC. Apparently the Wi-Fi drivers stop working randomly throughout the day.
Old Apple vs. New Apple
Difference?
Old Apple Products:
1. iPod line
3. iTunes
4. iPhone
5. iPad
6. Apple TV
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New Apple Products:
1. iPod line
3. iTunes
Difference?
Old Apple Products:
1. iPod line
a. iPod Nano
b. iPod Classic
c. iPod Touch
d. iPod Shuffle
2. Mac Lineb. iPod Classic
c. iPod Touch
d. iPod Shuffle
3. iTunes
4. iPhone
5. iPad
6. Apple TV
.
.
.
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New Apple Products:
1. iPod line
a. iPod Nano
b. iPod Touch
c. iPod Shuffle
2. Mac Lineb. iPod Touch
c. iPod Shuffle
3. iTunes
a. Apple Music
b. iTunes
4. iPhoneb. iTunes
a. iPhone 6
b. iPhone 6 Plus
b. iPhone 6s
c. iPhone 6s Plus
d. iPhone SE
5. iPadb. iPhone 6 Plus
b. iPhone 6s
c. iPhone 6s Plus
d. iPhone SE
a. Mini
b. Air 2
c. Pro 9.7"
d. Pro 12.9"
6. Apple TVb. Air 2
c. Pro 9.7"
d. Pro 12.9"
a. Apple TV 3
b. Apple TV 4
7. Apple Watchb. Apple TV 4
Well, ignoring your condescending tone and the assumption behind it that I know nothing about software development, my question is did nobody bother to test the final release build? Why does Apple get a pass just because the bug slipped in between Beta 4 and the public release?
I've been using an iPhone since OS 1.1.2. The iOS 1-6 days did not have anywhere near the kind of nonsense we have had in the last two years. In addition to the Error 53 and Error 56 problems we've had recently, there was also the incident of the iOS 8.0.1 update completely deactivating the cellular functionality of iPhone 6 and 6 Plusses. Yeah earlier versions of iOS had the occasional bugs like the alarm sometimes not working or maybe even a battery drain. But it never had the kind of show-stopping bugs we've had over the past two years. Quality control has demonstrably slipped since iOS 7 (anyone who remembers what iOS 7.0 was like on an iPad knows exactly what I mean). Given what we pay for Apple's products and how much cash they are currently hoarding, there is no earthly reason why we should believe these problems are not preventable, nor should we tolerate them.
But don't worry everyone - Apple's software quality is the best it's been in 5 years.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrog...-say-about-its-software-quality/#4d1d1ad385b2
Although I've got a Mac, iPhone and iPad, I avoid using Apple software (aside from the core OS) as much as possible. It's just not reliable enough to meet my needs.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrog...-say-about-its-software-quality/#4d1d1ad385b2
Although I've got a Mac, iPhone and iPad, I avoid using Apple software (aside from the core OS) as much as possible. It's just not reliable enough to meet my needs.
I have to admit, with updates like this, I'm a lot less concerned about 3rd party Malware.
Tell that to my sister who couldn't plug in an Xbox controller for a while because it would BSOD my SP 3. Or my brother in law whose new computer had wifi issues out of the box on a computer that came with 10 pre installed.
Did Apple outsource their QA department or something? Everyone makes fun when Microsoft has a bug, and they test on hundreds of devices... how many variations of iOS devices are there? Like 3?
There's no excuse for this poor quality, I thought software and hardware working together as one, no?
There's no excuse for this poor quality, I thought software and hardware working together as one, no?
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I have admit that I have had some trouble getting used to the way updates work on Windows 10. My machine may have been on for an extended period of time and I think "man I better install the updates" and it turns out that they either happened in the background or their aren't any. I like the way they are handling it.
Long gone are the days when I was working on something and windows force shut down my machine mid key stroke.
I got bit with this bug. I am am stuck in recovery mode. I attempted to update my iPad Pro via iTunes on my PC and it failed. I am now trying on a Mac...hopefully better results but we shall see. This is pretty unacceptable. I love iOS because of how often updates are released but if this happens more often, those frequent updates are useless...
Actually to be fair Microsoft's Office updates have been quite good lately!
They have, however, had a number of issues with software updates breaking various things on their Surfaces.
Okay, wouldn't it be logical to test the actual final build with beta testers as well, and release THAT to consumers once it is confirmed to be stable enough?
From how I understand it, any little change in the code could bring about some strange issue. So, Apple, if you have made a change from the final beta to the public build, don't release it to everybody! Let the beta testers who (hopefully) are more prepared for a bricked device experience this, rather than the average consumer. Then, before Apple even gets a chance to be ridiculed for stuff like this, the issue is fixed ahead of public release.
From how I understand it, any little change in the code could bring about some strange issue. So, Apple, if you have made a change from the final beta to the public build, don't release it to everybody! Let the beta testers who (hopefully) are more prepared for a bricked device experience this, rather than the average consumer. Then, before Apple even gets a chance to be ridiculed for stuff like this, the issue is fixed ahead of public release.
Why is it absurd?
wide spanning product lines in search of a new cash cow (iPhone vs. Office)..expansion through partnerships (IBM vs. PC vendors)... diversification of existing product lines to squeeze profit from every single market segment imaginable (iPHone SE, 6, 6s vs. Windows Home, Home Premium, Business, Professional....)
How is it absurd? Apple use to mock Microsoft for releasing buggy software back in the 2000s and now it seems like Apple can't release anything without bricking someones device.
The Beta part is what confuses me the most. It's amazing how the betas don't have any of these problems but the GMs do.
Ours is fine, but I was actually thinking when updating our devices which one would crash due to Apple's non existent quality control.
The one thing they actually do make themselves, and it seems to invariably crash it's own designed devices. Spend billions on a car or whatever it is, aren't able to test their software fully.
To my delightful surprise all our devices are working fine
The one thing they actually do make themselves, and it seems to invariably crash it's own designed devices. Spend billions on a car or whatever it is, aren't able to test their software fully.
To my delightful surprise all our devices are working fine
With the kind of trend I tend to wait longer now than I used to. Makes me question when Apple opened the Public Beta program. Do they even test their software anymore or just rely on public reporting bugs. With so many devices they made and different components of hardware from different manufacturers. I'm sure none of them is tested for every certain type of components.
Well, Cook will just talk to the media and every will be alright.
Well, Cook will just talk to the media and every will be alright.
Try downgrading back to 9.3.1 by downloading the IPSW here https://ipsw.me/ 9.3.1 is still being signed. Does iTunes even give you a message about detecting a device in Recovery Mode (and give you a restore button shift click on windows or alt/command click on Mac, cant remember what it is for Mac) or does it just throw Error 56 and not allow you to do anything?
When you say "Old Apple Product" what era of products are you referring to? Circa 2006?
Also, if you're listing Apple's current lineup, it looks more like this:
iPod (Touch, Nano, Shuffle)
Mac (MacBook Air, MacBook, MacBook Pro, iMac, Mac Pro, Mac Mini)
iPhone (iPhone 6/Plus, iPhone 6S/Plus, iPhone SE)
iPad (12.9" Pro, 9.7" Pro, Air 2, Mini 4, Mini 2)
Apple Watch (38mm and 42mm)
iTunes (iTunes Store, Apple Music)
Apple TV (4th Gen)