iOS 9 Code Suggests 12.93-Inch 'iPad Pro' Could Have 2732×2048 Display

[Temptin]

Why so much negativity? This is not meant for general consumers.

Imagine a music studio using a 12.9" touch screen display with virtual faders to control their virtual mixing desk? No more mouse clicking, and you can control multiple faders at once. In the past, such a music touchscreen system from other manufacturers cost about $3000 and was very inaccurate at detecting touches and had limited memory and applications (I've still got mine and it's soon to be a worthless, unsellable paperweight...).

Imagine a digital painter using a large-canvas iPad instead of the cramped earlier models?

For professionals, a 12.9" iPad is huge, in more ways than just physically. ;-) I have been waiting for this news for five years since the original iPad came out.

I laughed at the earlier comment saying "There's nothing Pro about the iPad Pro," - dude, everything about it is geared to professionals. Very few general consumers need something that large, and it would look silly in your lap. This is geared towards fixed installations in professional environments.

PS: This news reminds me of the growing iPhones... Can I just state right now that I would love an iPhone 7 with a 12,9" screen, just so I can look extremely stupid taking a call. I'd need a backpack for my phone... just like you will for the iPad Pro. ;-)

 

[sdz]

When will I be able to run a Torrent Client on my ipad and have some kind of shared files system... It is really stressing me out copying a 1.4gb movie file from one App to another just to play it (VLC)

 

[Keirasplace]

When will I be able to run a Torrent Client on my ipad and have some kind of shared files system... It is really stressing me out copying a 1.4gb movie file from one App to another just to play it (VLC)

Why don't you just set up a DLNA server on your net and play it from there. You can even play it over the net (your own little "cloud"). Of course, over the net, your data caps need to be high enough.

 

[sdz]

Why don't you just set up a DLNA server on your net and play it from there. You can even play it over the net (your own little "cloud"). Of course, over the net, your data caps need to be high enough.

Yes good idea. Unfortunately I have cable internet at home which uses ipv6 addresses and some kind if NAT for ipv4. So i can't easily access the NAS from a public wifi for example...

Also my ipad is sooo powerful, I just want everything to have locally. That would be awesome. I dont understand why Apple is afraid of putting Torrent Clients on the App Store. The Google Playstore allows it. It is not illegal to use Torrent, what is wrong with them...?

 

[winston1236]

Don't worry.

Samsung will bring one out with 528 PPI, so you can enjoy viewing the 228 wasted PPI.

There's no need for fanboyism, thanks though.

The fact is 228 PPI is inferior in a world where even cheap phones ship with numbers in the 300+ range.

 

[Benjamin Frost]

There's no need for fanboyism, thanks though.

The fact is 228 PPI is inferior in a world where even cheap phones ship with numbers in the 300+ range.

It's not 228 PPI, but 264 PPI. And it's an iPad, which means you hold it further away than an iPhone, thereby meaning the PPI can be lower for the same clarity.

So there's no inferiority involved. Any more unjustified accusations of fanboyism for me?

 

[sdz]

There's no need for fanboyism, thanks though.

The fact is 228 PPI is inferior in a world where even cheap phones ship with numbers in the 300+ range.

Noone needs that high dpi stuff... It just means more work for the GPU. The retina displays today are more than enough

 

[winston1236]

Any more unjustified accusations of fanboyism for me?

I say I'm not impressed with the low PPI and you say "Don't worry. Samsung will bring one out with 528 PPI, so you can enjoy viewing the 228 wasted PPI."

Samsung has nothing to do with my comment or even this story so there's no reason to even mention them.

 

[blackcrayon]

There's no need for fanboyism, thanks though.

The fact is 228 PPI is inferior in a world where even cheap phones ship with numbers in the 300+ range.

You realize this iPad would have a PPI as good or better than the Macbook Pro Retinas, right? Comparing it to phones with uselessly high resolution (and misleadingly high as well as they're often PenTile) doesn't make sense. This iPad would be the size of a small laptop screen and used at a similar distance from your face.

 

[winston1236]

You realize this iPad would have a PPI as good or better than the Macbook Pro Retinas, right? Comparing it to phones with uselessly high resolution (and misleadingly high as well as they're often PenTile) doesn't make sense. This iPad would be the size of a small laptop screen and used at a similar distance from your face.

Comparing it to phone display/res is more accurate than with a laptop. Tablets tend to be held closer to the face than a laptop anyway just based on form figure, they aren't meant to be laid down and looked at.

 

[blackcrayon]

Comparing it to phone display/res is more accurate than with a laptop. Tablets tend to be held closer to the face than a laptop anyway just based on form figure, they aren't meant to be laid down and looked at.

This is a ~13 inch tablet. It's the size of a small laptop. Therefore it will not be used as close to your face as a smaller tablet. And it *will* be used on a table more often than a current iPad, considering it will undoubtedly be heavier and less comfortable to hold with one hand. It would be a waste to give it an even higher PPI and worse graphics performance just to have a number on a spec sheet.

 

[ravenvii]

I'm a consumer and I'd love to have a bigger iPad.

Jus' sayin'.

 

[xristy]

A use case that I don't see mentioned is for reading PDFs such as journal articles, textbooks and reference books. Many of these have printed areas roughly of the projected size of this rumored new iPad. Roughly the size of a sheet of paper holding many lbs of books and articles is something I am quite interested in. With an app such as Goodreader perhaps there will be uses of split screen to look at endnotes or references and such. With a decent resolution stylus note taking could be usable vs a stubby stylus or finger - never has worked for me. I would think that there might well be interest in such a product among students and faculty at universities.

 

[macintoshi]

You know, I shouldn't say this because I know there are forum members here who are looking forward to this iPad Pro, but I'll hate it when it's announced. Now Apple will reserve features that would work perfectly fine on the others to try and push consumers toward this new model.

For example, that new keyboard that was mentioned earlier today. That would be fine a 9.7" display, but would probably be limited to ONLY the large Pro. I don't know why Apple can't create largely the same product and let consumers pick.

Another example, if this Pro does exist I'll bet it is the only iPad that gets an active digitizer. :/

Well if its an iOS 9 device, then Apple can keep it, i wont buy it. OSX Full is way to go, nothing else !

 

[TechZeke]

Anything running iOS should never have the word "pro" in the name.

Good thing Apple hasn't named it.

Hmmm. I could name off 10-15 professional Engineers off the top of my head that use an iPhone(running iOS, I'm pretty sure ) as their work phone.

Oh, and Office for iOS is superb. In my Engineering econ class where the professor was showing us how to use Excel functions for cost analysis, I was easily able to keep up with the girl behind me with a Surface Pro. Once new multitasking features hit iOS 9, "GG" as gamers online would call it.(Especially since I have an Air 2). Not trying to take away from the Surface Pro, as it is a fantastic device(plus, the Surface will always be more productive running full Windows 8), but I also think it's wrong to assume you can't do professional work on an iPad.

 

[subjonas]

Although why wouldn't they stick the same processor and ram in the air 3 unless it will be thinner than the pro?

Maybe they will. Who knows. But in regard to the conspiracy theory that Apple purposely holds back features from their smaller devices to sell their bigger devices... Maybe but it makes more sense to me that bigger devices should be more capable than smaller. It's not just a bigger screen--it's physically more room to pack in more hardware. And isn't it more likely that in this incredibly competitive market Apple struck the best balance of performance/features/battery life/price/etc. that they could for that size of device (while keeping in mind they are a business trying to make as much profit as possible)? And that they're going to do the same for the bigger device? These people have it backwards.. If Apple made both devices equally capable, it would be by holding back features from the BIGGER device (which they might, who knows, but I hope not).

 

[LucasEVille]

Maybe they will. Who knows. But in regard to the conspiracy theory that Apple purposely holds back features from their smaller devices to sell their bigger devices... Maybe but it makes more sense to me that bigger devices should be more capable than smaller. It's not just a bigger screen--it's physically more room to pack in more hardware. And isn't it more likely that in this incredibly competitive market Apple struck the best balance of performance/features/battery life/price/etc. that they could for that size of device (while keeping in mind they are a business trying to make as much profit as possible)? And that they're going to do the same for the bigger device? These people have it backwards.. If Apple made both devices equally capable, it would be by holding back features from the BIGGER device (which they might, who knows, but I hope not).

Yeah I tend to agree with this, obviously I'm no hardware engineer and I don't claim to know anywhere near enough about phone hardware to quote it as fact.

 

[Z3man]

They want to sell you a Mac and a IPad.

What about this:

-Release an iPad pro.
-Release a very thin metal keyboard with Mac/PC hardware in it.( like the keyboard part of the new MacBook ) that can connect to the iPad pro and can act like a cover.
-make it dual boot. Without the keyboard cover it only runs iOS .
-with the keyboard cover attached you can choose between OS X and iOS .

This way apple will sell more iPads, but will also sell macs.

That would be brilliant, it's exactly what i was hoping to read when i started reading this thread, i hope it happens but i don't think it will. OS X is the way to go, IOS is only any good for phones.

I don't think it will happen because then i wouldn't need a laptop and an iPad, which means apple would be selling me less products.

 

[GFLPraxis]

Now you're talking- I see no reason why it couldn't run Xcode now- the processor would be fast enough, the screen would be large enough, and those new cursor movement features in the keyboard would make it more bearable even with touch. It would be a big undertaking to redesign something that complex though (touch targets, etc). But it helps that Apple pretty much got rid of the multiple windows everywhere for Xcode years ago and it's made for full multi-paned screen.

The iOS 9 keyboard updates did seem like it would make writing code on an iPad a lot more bearable, huh?

I think it'd be pretty doable to make a mobile version of XCode. I mean, it'd be somewhat limited - UIKit only, I'd imagine - but the hardest thing to redesign would be Interface Builder. The rest is just fancy text entry.

 

[subjonas]

They want to sell you a Mac and a IPad.

What about this:

-Release an iPad pro.
-Release a very thin metal keyboard with Mac/PC hardware in it.( like the keyboard part of the new MacBook ) that can connect to the iPad pro and can act like a cover.
-make it dual boot. Without the keyboard cover it only runs iOS .
-with the keyboard cover attached you can choose between OS X and iOS .

This way apple will sell more iPads, but will also sell macs.

That seems like a pretty complicated solution for Apple to carry out considering you'll still have two devices. It will only save you a screen.

That would be brilliant, it's exactly what i was hoping to read when i started reading this thread, i hope it happens but i don't think it will. OS X is the way to go, IOS is only any good for phones.

I don't think it will happen because then i wouldn't need a laptop and an iPad, which means apple would be selling me less products.

I'm sure profit is part of it. But to be fair, there is truth in saying hybrids bring a lot of compromise while dedicated devices are better at what they do. That aside, I think the bigger problem is the established ecosystem of OS X software that is not designed for touch interface. And dual-booting would require two chips (ARM AND x86), and all the complications that brings.

 

[Tech198]

hehe.... maybie...

 

[Beerstalker]

Blew the chance to go 16:9. More like iPhone, 11"Air and iMac, please.
I wanted the MacBook for the retina screen, but 16:10 is such a "wrong" aspect ratio for me.

I agree, I was really hoping for a move to 16:9 (although 16:10 doesn't bother me that much). The 12.2" Samsung tablets seem to have a pretty nice size/feel to them the little bit I have played with them in the store. I just don't care for Samsung or Android, and much prefer my Apple/IOS. I tend to use my iPhone (6+) and iPad in landscape most of the time unless apps force portrait and I find the 16:9 on the iPhone much more pleasant.

I've been holding off on upgrading my iPad 3 waiting to see what happens with the Pro (I have already updgraded my wife, mother and father to the Air2 because they all like that size).

 

[Lesser Evets]

Well if its an iOS 9 device, then Apple can keep it, i wont buy it. OSX Full is way to go, nothing else !

The only decent reason to make a larger iPad is for reading documents/websites. There is no other reason.

Though the name has been foisted on the device by outsiders, the "PRO" in iPad is like throwing a "Porsche" symbol on your Yugo. There will be nada "PRO" about such an iPad. It's merely a maxi pad. And why wait? Why not just release the device years ago with smaller dpi screen to start?

If Apple does this "iPad Pro" project in the way every expects, I'd expect it to be a moderate indent to a saturated market. Might as well make the cases have colors instead, if they want sales.

I'm getting the feeling this will be an iBook Pad or MacBook AirPad or something like that. It will be a MAC and not an I. It's about time they started to make MacPads in some form. I would want a MacPad--you could actually do something closer to "pro" with that than an iPad-SuperSize.

We will see.