iOS 9: iPhone 4S will receive it?

Discussion in 'iOS 9' started by AGX, Feb 22, 2015.

  1. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    I think the event focused on a few devices/lineups, and bringing more updates would kind of dilute it even more, which Apple likely wouldn't want to do as much given that they already had a few different updates in the event. As for quiet removal, it can still happen just as likely (or not likely) as it was to happen the same day of the event really. At least that's how it all seems to me.
     
  2. oldmacs macrumors 601

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    I doubt the iPAD Mini 1 would be quietly removed.. apple needs it until it gets the iPad Mini 4 - this is because the iPad Mini 2 and iPad Mini 3 are too similar. Apple wants a tablet in that low cost spot, and if the iPad Mini 1 was dropped, the iPad Mini 2 couldn't go into that slot because it is nearly identical to the iPad Mini 3 - e.g. who would be the iPad Mini 3 when the almost identical Mini 2 is $100 cheaper. However, the iPad Mini 4 would offer a better processor, possibly a slimmer design and a better screen than the Mini 3, so the iPad mini 2 could go into that low price bracket as there would be enough differentiation.

    The Apple TV is the same - Apple would have an event. Also they just dropped the price and made a big deal of it, so i doubt its being dropped any time soon.

    The iPod Touch 5 is the unknown one. If it gets updated it won't be silent, but I can't work out if Apple would just drop it. If Apple is planning to drop it in iOS 9, why have they still got in for sale?
     
  3. Paddle1 macrumors 68040

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    It requires more power to generate content to the bigger screen, this is why the iPad 3 sometimes performs worse than the iPhone 4s.
     
  4. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    Why would it take more processing power if the number of pixels is the same?
     
  5. Paddle1 macrumors 68040

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    Doesn't it have more pixels?
     
  6. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    If the resolution is the same then the number of pixels is the same (since that's what resolution means basically).
     
  7. RoboWarriorSr macrumors 6502a

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    nvm

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    The reason it require more power is that 960*640 vs 2048*1536 resolution, size has nothing to with it or off screen benchmark would be impossible to do (which you are suggesting since there isn't a screen size for offscreen benchmarks just 1080p).
     
  8. Paddle1 macrumors 68040

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    I didn't realize you were comparing the iPad 2 to the iPad mini.
     
  9. ScottishDuck macrumors 6502a

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    I don't see any iOS device with 512MB of ram getting continued support, especially in the context of the Air 2 (and presumably the 6s) having 2GB ram.
     
  10. oldmacs macrumors 601

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    Regardless the majority of iPads in use are 512 Mb. Presumably if iOS 9 is a performance improvement release than it will have lower requirements than iOS 8 and run better on 512 MB OF RAM.

    You also have the fact they are still selling the 4S (albeit as an iPod touch 5) and he iPad Mini 1 (which is the same as the iPad 2). You've also got the Apple TV which is also A5.

    The last thing apple should be doing is increasing the ram requirements of iOS - the majority of its products that it sells now are 1 Gb or 512 MB, iOS 8 is already ram hungry enough so pushing things up would be a poor idea.
     
  11. XTheLancerX macrumors 68000

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    Yeah, having such low end devices at one end of the spectrum would push Apple to make iOS 9 efficient, thus, greatly improving performance on all devices. However, because they have so many devices to test/develop for, it can complicate things.

    My friend has a Galaxy S5 and the new lollipop update already uses around 1300MB out of 1.6GB (not sure why it said 1.6GB available when the device has 2GB of RAM?) I remember my Galaxy S4 had usually around 800MB of RAM being used on KitKat.

    So, what one can take from this is since Samsung is growing so damn fast spec wise, it freaking ruins older devices and general OS quality. Her S5 was already stuttering a good amount, worse than my iPhone 6 and my mini 2. However, the mini 2 has much more heavy stuttering in some spots compared to the S5. Even so, the S5 had a consistent stutter over just about everything it felt like. They don't have to worry about how bloated their version of android is because they just keep chucking power at it. It just does not seem sustainable. At all.

    Maybe she had a stuck process or something, I don't know. It was just generally stuttery... My experience.
     
  12. oldmacs macrumors 601

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    I think a public beta would help with that testing issue - also the Mini 1 and iPad 2 are pretty much the same and the iPod Touch 5 and 4S are pretty much the same so that would help reduce testing - Same with the Mini 2 and 3 and the 5 and 5C.... Though of course there are differences in battery, bluetooth and touch ID on the same thing.
     
  13. BrettApple macrumors 65816

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    That my friend, is called TouchWiz... Samsung's horribly inefficient resource hogging UI over the top of Android. I owned a Galaxy S III for a couple years in '12-'13 and it was pretty annoying. Then I flashed a stock AOSP based ROM, and it was smooth as butter.

    If you've used the HTC One M8 or the Moto X it is an entirely different experience on the same basic hardware. Amazing how Samsung can mess up things so much. It's gotten better at least with the newer version coming on the S6. But that doesn't give them an excuse to keep using the older versions on their "older" phones. But they probably will.

    Anyway, I'd love to see iOS 9 on my 4s if it's an improvement. It's not crucial, but it is my backup phone. I just went and replaced the glass/lcd/home button and back glass with new panels and it looks brand new. I just love the design of it and I plan on keeping it around.

    More importantly though is the iPad 2. We have quite a few at work that are used as POS machines, while it wouldn't "need" iOS 9, security updates and better performance would be welcomed. Some were even made in 2014 before they discontinued them.

    I think at least some A5 devices will se iOS 9. iPad mini, iPod touch, and Apple TV are still being shipped and sold, and are A5 devices. Though the Apple TV is a bit different, and single core, it's still an A5. Gives us some hope.

    Time will tell :cool:
     
  14. RoboWarriorSr macrumors 6502a

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    A portion on of the RAM on Qualcomm devices are reserved for the GPU, unlike Nividia devices, Qualcomm chips do not have their own GPU memory thus share it from the RAM much like many integrated graphic chips found on laptops today.
     
  15. Crazyfastrapper macrumors newbie

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    I have a iphone4s.
    I used to have IOS 7,
    To be honest IOS 8.o did not lower the speed that much only like 5%
    IOS 8.1 killed it.
    its made the phone go 20% slower,
    its easy to fix though,
    i heard that IOS 9 will run like ios 7 (but running better then the iphone 4)
    So if IOS 9 will run better then IOS 7 on the 4th phone, cant the iphone 4 get ios 9 as well?
    that would mean the iphone4s could get it has well.
     
  16. 5aga macrumors 6502

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    personally I think the cutoff will be non-64 bit devices, especially if the rumors about optimization are true.
     
  17. Paddle1 macrumors 68040

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    And give the iPhone 5 a shorter lifespan than the 3GS, 4, and 4S?
     
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    Quote: In what will come as a surprise to many people, our sources note that even A5-based Apple devices, including the original iPad mini and discontinued iPhone 4S, will be able to run iOS 9. In order to avoid the sluggishness and bugginess that was most notably seen in iOS 7 for the iPhone 4, Apple has restructured its software engineering process to better support older hardware. Quoted from: http://9to5mac.com/2015/05/22/ios-9...-rootless-security-legacy-iphoneipad-support/
     
  19. Matheew944 macrumors regular

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    My prediction for IOS 9-

    Ipad 3 and up
    Iphone 5 and up
    Ipad mini 2 and up

    no Ip4s and no Ipad 2.... , and no touch 5....
    all A5 devices wont get it... except the Ipad 3 that have A5X
     
  20. Hot12345 macrumors 6502

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    Ios 9 will get the iphone 4s. Apple says that, so that will it be.
     
  21. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    When/where did Apple say that?
     
  22. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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  23. Hot12345 macrumors 6502

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    Its from the insider, this source has the last time about the iphone 5s correct. So is very trustful
     
  24. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    Trustful or not, it's still not from Apple, and it's still not official or a given. It might very well turn out to be that way, but saying Apple said so already isn't right since Apple hasn't said anything about it.
     

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