iOS 9 still doesn't solve iOS' issues on the iPhone

petvas

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I am sure that iOS 9 will be a nice upgrade but I have the impression that the changes are subtle.
What do we get with iOS 9?
  • A better Siri
  • A better Notes app (sorry Apple but Evernote and OneNote are still much much better)
  • A new Music app that isn't really better than Google Music or Spotify (I would say they are on par)
  • Some small improvements in 1st party apps
  • New APIs for developers
iOS 9 will still work exactly the same as iOS 1.0 worked. We will still get the same grid of icons, with almost no customization options. I don't want to start complaining about the lack of widgets. iOS has the notification center for that and it's fine, but I would like to be able to freely move icons and folders to wherever I want them to on screen. I would like to leave free space so that I can enjoy my nice background picture. I would like to make my iPhone really mine.
Apple has made the iPhone a great tool, but this tool lost its personal touch. I like my technology to be personal and I have lost this feeling with the iPhone. Not because of the hardware (which is great), but because of the software which is working like a utility. I want to think of my smartphone as something more than a tool. Is it just me?
Please don't get me wrong. I am using Macs all the time, I love them and I love what Apple has done to OS X. I have used all iPhones since the beginning, but the last two years I started looking at the competition..
The iPhone is still the best phone for the majority of users. It works out of the box really well, something that is not a given when you look at the competition.
I just want to have a more exciting iOS.
At least the iPad version is getting an exciting (and long overdue) feature: Split screen multitasking.
It won't solve all iOS' issues, but it might be enough for me to start using an iPad again. I wish I could say the same for the iPhone too.
 

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I totally agree with you. And here' she solution: Galaxy S6 :)

That's the route I'm going this fall. Will keep my iPhone so I can go back to iOS, but I plan on upgrading to an Android phone, the S6 or the Note 5.
 
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Razeus

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I may move my phone portion of my tech to an Android phone. It simply can do more out of the box once you set it up. Apple is STILL behind on certain things. But at least with iOS 9, can FINALLY do an attachment in the email app. /rollseyes
 
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I totally agree with you. And here' she solution: Galaxy S6 :)

That's the route I'm going this fall. Will keep my iPhone so I can go back to iOS, but I plan on upgrading to an Android phone, the S6 or the Note 5.
I'd suggest a Nexus or HTC One device. Those are devices that match Apple in speed and responsiveness. I have a Note 4 in addition to an iPhone 6 Plus and the 6 Plus is the better Phone by a mile. Sure the iPhone is missing a lot of features, and the note's S pen is impressive for selecting text, writing and saving loads of information, but the phone is SLOW. There is a clear delay between clicking an app and it opening, between multitasking, picture snapping, etc. Even the S6 has the same lagging. YouTube some videos. I recently played with a friend's S6 after he told me Touchwiz lagging was a thing of the past: it took close to 3 seconds between pressing chrome and it actually opening. After that it flies. But that hangup in opening apps, switching apps, inputting text is still there and it destroys the experience.
 
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Razeus

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Still doesn't solved the irony of having all these apps and yet none of them can be my default.
 
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Paddle1

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^ That's true as well, you're not supposed to just stay on the homescreen and look at the wallpaper.
 
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I would like to be able to freely move icons and folders to wherever I want them to on screen. I would like to leave free space so that I can enjoy my nice background picture. I would like to make my iPhone really mine.
That is my same issue with iOS. Still boggles my mind why i can't do this. While i'd like to see this, there are other things that got me to come back to iOS over Android. While I do like the UI and Notifications better on Android, the stability and quality of apps on iOS keep me coming back. I also like the iOS lock screen is better as well. At the end of the day, it's app personal preference.
 
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iCheddar

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I'd like to see the ability to set default apps (goodbye calendar, hello Fantastical), but I've never understood these homescreen complaints malarkey.

It's a home screen, it exists solely to go switch to another app. A grid of icons is simple, predictable, and fast. You want to have less icons on your screen? That's only going to mean more swiping between pages to get to the apps you want.
 
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petvas

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I'd suggest a Nexus or HTC One device. Those are devices that match Apple in speed and responsiveness. I have a Note 4 in addition to an iPhone 6 Plus and the 6 Plus is the better Phone by a mile. Sure the iPhone is missing a lot of features, and the note's S pen is impressive for selecting text, writing and saving loads of information, but the phone is SLOW. There is a clear delay between clicking an app and it opening, between multitasking, picture snapping, etc. Even the S6 has the same lagging. YouTube some videos. I recently played with a friend's S6 after he told me Touchwiz lagging was a thing of the past: it took close to 3 seconds between pressing chrome and it actually opening. After that it flies. But that hangup in opening apps, switching apps, inputting text is still there and it destroys the experience.
I have an HTC One M9 and am very happy with it. My heart though wants to be with Apple, but I cannot ignore what's out there.
 
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I may move my phone portion of my tech to an Android phone. It simply can do more out of the box once you set it up. Apple is STILL behind on certain things. But at least with iOS 9, can FINALLY do an attachment in the email app. /rollseyes
We've been able to add attachments to emails for years. Are you sure you use iOS? This thread seems hijacked by Android users.
 
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melgross

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I am sure that iOS 9 will be a nice upgrade but I have the impression that the changes are subtle.
What do we get with iOS 9?
  • A better Siri
  • A better Notes app (sorry Apple but Evernote and OneNote are still much much better)
  • A new Music app that isn't really better than Google Music or Spotify (I would say they are on par)
  • Some small improvements in 1st party apps
  • New APIs for developers
iOS 9 will still work exactly the same as iOS 1.0 worked. We will still get the same grid of icons, with almost no customization options. I don't want to start complaining about the lack of widgets. iOS has the notification center for that and it's fine, but I would like to be able to freely move icons and folders to wherever I want them to on screen. I would like to leave free space so that I can enjoy my nice background picture. I would like to make my iPhone really mine.
Apple has made the iPhone a great tool, but this tool lost its personal touch. I like my technology to be personal and I have lost this feeling with the iPhone. Not because of the hardware (which is great), but because of the software which is working like a utility. I want to think of my smartphone as something more than a tool. Is it just me?
Please don't get me wrong. I am using Macs all the time, I love them and I love what Apple has done to OS X. I have used all iPhones since the beginning, but the last two years I started looking at the competition..
The iPhone is still the best phone for the majority of users. It works out of the box really well, something that is not a given when you look at the competition.
I just want to have a more exciting iOS.
At least the iPad version is getting an exciting (and long overdue) feature: Split screen multitasking.
It won't solve all iOS' issues, but it might be enough for me to start using an iPad again. I wish I could say the same for the iPhone too.
You can move folders and icons wherever you like. I do it all the time.

Where is this misinformation coming from?
 
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petvas

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We've been able to add attachments to emails for years. Are you sure you use iOS? This thread seems hijacked by Android users.
That's not accurate. Please try to reply to a message and add a word document to your mail. You can only attach photos.
 
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Paddle1

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Says who? I should be able to do whatever I like with my devices.
I think the Android homescreen is different, the iOS one is more like an app drawer. On Android there are widgets and things like Google Now to interact with while iOS's is just to launch apps. The first few versions of iOS didn't even allow wallpaper.
 
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petvas

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You're right. Just like I should be able to have proper memory management in Lollipop.

Oh wait.
Depending on your device you will have a different experience. I agree that iOS is more optimized but when using the M9 you never see a lag or memory leaks.
This is also not about doing a comparison with Android. I just need iOS to be a little more exciting and interesting. Currently it's very boring.
 
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batting1000

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^ That's true as well, you're not supposed to just stay on the homescreen and look at the wallpaper.
I don't which is why for me I just use the default wallpapers and don't go searching around the the perfect one that matches the icon setup, etc.

It's just me though, I'm not trying to say everyone shouldn't care about customization.
 
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ardchoille50

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I would like to make my iPhone really mine
I feel the need to point out that none of the issues you've listed are issues with iOS, they are issues with your perception and expectations. Perhaps the iPhone is not best suited to your needs?

Despite the fact that many people refuse to believe this, your iPhone, in its entirety, will never truly be yours.. ownership of iOS (even the copy on your iPhone) will always remain with Apple. What you do own, however, is a license to use iOS.
 
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