iOS and Android Combine for 96.3% Smartphone Market Share in Fourth Quarter

[AppleScruff1]

Your sarcasm betrays you. At least you know how ridiculous you sounded lol.

Of course I was being sarcastic. And obviously you missed the point.

 

[cbobb123]

LOL...and I guess you're from Globally.

Well it's true. If you look at just the US, there would be more people that own iPhones there than in India. What applies to the US doesn't for other countries...

 

[Trapezoid]

Of course I was being sarcastic. And obviously you missed the point.

No I didn't. But the point you were making doesn't apply to the person you were replying to.

With your point, it's impossible to enjoy/be proud/root for anything unless you have a "vested interest" in it.

I didn't miss your point, but it was a silly point indeed.

 

[Keirasplace]

Surprised at the Android market share percentage and the fact that iOS actually went down

Considering dozens and dozens of models are under $80 bucks, not sure why that would be surprising at all. Wonder if they're actually including the Chinese models which are barely Android (your not running play store apps and don't have any Google apps) at all in that?

 

[AppleScruff1]

No I didn't. But the point you were making doesn't apply to the person you were replying to.

With your point, it's impossible to enjoy/be proud/root for anything unless you have a "vested interest" in it.

I didn't miss your point, but it was a silly point indeed.

You missed it, so no need to discuss it further. Enjoy the day! We finally have some sun and it feels good after 8 feet of snow the past 3 weeks!

 

[k995]

I hope a third or fourth OS can take a good chunk of Android's market. Or better yet, one of these other lazy phone manufacturers STARTS WRITING THEIR OWN OS FOR THEIR HARDWARE. Don't other companies realize that's one of Apple's biggest selling points? I'm so ******* tired of **** electronics companies. It's always Apple versus the lazy, draconian, design-by-committee multinational conglaumerate.

How about giving us more than a sole quality choice for once?

You do realize most android phone manufacturers give a lot more choice on hardware AND software? I can get an android smartphone 100% like apple, blackberry, windows mobile or whatever ROM android flavor you like AND have choice in a hundreds of different designs and form factors.

If MS with all its knowhow and money has problems what do htc or sony have as a chance?

 

[btbeme]

And neither does Android, but if you had ever actually used it instead of listening to all the FUD on the internet, you would know this. But hey, let's not let actual facts get in the way of Android bashing.

See, what you need to do is read the news in the last couple weeks. It's on its way.

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Never had or used an Android phone that does all these crappy things, and I've been on Android since 2010.

Let me guess, you've never actually used an Android phone, right?

Read the news. Its on its way.

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Hopefully your landlord raises your rent or your bank increases your mortgage interest rate so it can maintain sustainability. Ditto for your insurance company, power company, cable company, cell provider. And also your healthcare,and supermarket too. If we're going to brag about and support big profits, let's make it universal.

Nothing wrong with profitability. Instead of whining about how someone owes you something for nothing, why not become an investor? Then you can move out of your mother's basement.

 

[k995]

And that's what consumers care about, a company that makes a huge profit at their expense. I hope gas goes up to $5 a gallon too!

Yes its as if people want to pay extra. Have to give it to apple they can sure make people believe whatever they want. Good for my apple stock.

 

[btbeme]

I care. I own Apple stock. My money has increased drastically.

Amen, brother. Funny how so many people think that corporations somehow "owe" them something. Much easier to whine than it is to actually produce something.

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You realise that price-gouging is impossible in a free market with an abundance of choices? People will pay whatever a product is worth to them. If Apple makes profits selling iPhones, that is because people value the product considerably more than it costs Apple to make it.

That point is irrelevant to the masses of of mouth-breathers who feel everything should be "fair."

 

[Trapezoid]

You missed it, so no need to discuss it further. Enjoy the day! We finally have some sun and it feels good after 8 feet of snow the past 3 weeks!

By all means take your ball and go home but it doesn't change what you said, nor does it make it anymore sensible!

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Amen, brother. Funny how so many people think that corporations somehow "owe" them something. Much easier to whine than it is to actually produce something.

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That point is irrelevant to the masses of of mouth-breathers who feel everything should be "fair."

Its a point that has been made countless times but when presented with that point the whiners just throw a fit. At the end of the day, those with any sense know that Apple simply cannot charge more than the market will bear. The whiners, well theyre fun to laugh at least

 

[mi7chy]

Mark my words. When full Windows can run on phones, in modern UI for phone mode and desktop mode when docked, it'll easily take #2 spot and be a contender for #1. Think of it as one pocketable device that replaces both the traditional smartphone and laptop combo. This will happen with the introduction of 10nm node so about 2016/2017 time frame. Considering Samsung is already mass producing 14nm and have announced 10nm so if they're smart they'll buy out AMD and partner with Microsoft to continue mobile domination.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Nothing wrong with profitability. Instead of whining about how someone owes you something for nothing, why not become an investor? Then you can move out of your mother's basement.

Who's whining about owing someone something for nothing? And who can move out of their mothers basement? You lost me there. Care to clarify?

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Yes its as if people want to pay extra. Have to give it to apple they can sure make people believe whatever they want. Good for my apple stock.

It is great for your stock, but the mindset is unusual.

 

[SirCheese]

See, what you need to do is read the news in the last couple weeks. It's on its way.

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Read the news. Its on its way.

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Nothing wrong with profitability. Instead of whining about how someone owes you something for nothing, why not become an investor? Then you can move out of your mother's basement.

Read the news? What in the **** does that have anything to do with the FUD the OP said? It's still FUD no matter how you slice it. And "on it's way"? The OP said acted as if it is happening now, it's not and don't expect it to either.

 

[AlecZ]

I'm sorry, but if you use Firefox OS, you deserve some prejudice

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And that's what consumers care about, a company that makes a huge profit at their expense. I hope gas goes up to $5 a gallon too!

In both cases, I'd make money off of stocks, so I'd be happy. More consumer confidence is also good. When people willingly pay extra for an Apple product, they typically do it because they consider it a worthwhile purchase. It's not a tax.

 

[AlecZ]

Too bad Apple doesn't have cheap smartphones...they would be crappy, too. You get what you pay for. There are plenty of high quality, expensive Android phones on the market, but your $49 bargain basement android phone will be junk.

You CAN buy older iPhones for a lot less. Of course, nothing on the level of cheapness of "cereal box" Android phones. Those are typically free or cheaper than free with a contract (e.g. they come with a gift card or something).

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And Apple bundles it's own crapware.

What, the useless Passbook app or other stock apps that I can just never open if I don't want to? I think the only part of iOS that qualifies as crapware is Game Center, and it's easy to avoid by just not making an account.

 

[LordVic]

What, the useless Passbook app or other stock apps that I can just never open if I don't want to?

come off it

you can't call bundled apps with one manu "bloatware" but then call bundle apps with another perfectly fine, because you dont use them

its hypocritical.

Both Android AND Apple bundle software with their Operating systems that many people do not use.

 

[apolloa]

In 2010... phones with Android became the leader in smartphone market share.

That happened roughly 5 years ago. Here's a chart to explain. Any questions?

Nope, no questions, did not know that was when Android started to leave iOS behind

Does the word "crush" have some other meaning that I'm not aware of?

To me it means "destroy" or "obliterate"

Clearly Android hasn't been able to "destroy" Apple or the iPhone.

Android has more market share because they ship a higher percentage of units in the smartphone market.

But like I said... there are 60+ manufacturers who are now shipping a billion Android smartphones a year.

Apple... a single company... can't possibly ship that many... and thus has a lower percentage of market share.

BUT... that hasn't exactly hurt Apple in they way you'd think it does.

Apple has always been successful WITHOUT having a lot of market share.

Did I state Apple was hurt? Hmmm.....???? Nope I did not, considering Apples ludicrous mark up we all throw money at them for, they have a stupid market share, as in very large. But Android still crushes their market share

 

[AlecZ]

come off it

you can't call bundled apps with one manu "bloatware" but then call bundle apps with another perfectly fine, because you dont use them

its hypocritical.

Both Android AND Apple bundle software with their Operating systems that many people do not use.

I didn't call anything bloatware on Android. I've heard people complain about annoying carrier-specific startup sequences and junk bundled with Samsung phones, but I've never experienced it first-hand, so I don't say anything.

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Err, you being an Apple user presumably, you realise that the lower marketshare higher profit comes by price-gouging people like you who have sufficient disposable income not to care about the higher cost of the iPhone.

You can't really use the word "price-gouging" for anything except food and water... He has a choice like everyone what phone to get.

 

[Max(IT)]

Given Apple does not have low price devices, your statement is comparing apples against oranges.

Now looking at equal comparison, a few years old an Iphone 5 v Galaxy S4, very comparable prices, just checked on Ebay for new ones! Check yourself if you think a base iphone 5 is pricey, its not!

If we are talking current generation, most people buy on contract, and that makes the upfront price cheap, but locks you into a 24 month commitment.

Seriously.... iPhone 5 vs galaxy S4 ? IPhone 5 still has a market. S4 ..... never had.

 

[s2mikey]

Amen, brother. Funny how so many people think that corporations somehow "owe" them something. Much easier to whine than it is to actually produce something.

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That point is irrelevant to the masses of of mouth-breathers who feel everything should be "fair."

Even funnier are you puny, insignificant shareholders who think your shares are really special or something. Your company 401K is "terrific" and all but you're gonna get taxed up the arse when you go to withdraw it and it will hardly mean much in the long run.

I dunno, shareholder sheep are just as "duh" as the anti corporate whiners are. The company doesn't care about either of you at all. they just want your money. That's all. You aren't special. Sorry.

 

[MH01]

Seriously.... iPhone 5 vs galaxy S4 ? IPhone 5 still has a market. S4 ..... never had.

So you raise the assumption that a 2 year old iPhone holds its value much better that cheap android, well hello, is the pope Catholic? So I called your assumption, comparing the base iPhone 5 to base s4, checked the used prices, and I'm not seeing a much better return!

But hey, feel free to now switch the discussion to markert share. Yet again, I know the pope is Catholic and the iPhone 5 had much better share.

Would you like to finish the holding of value discussion , or have me switch to agree that iPhone 5 was more popular than the S4, but saying the s4 never had or has a markert is a silly statement , cause I am not talking about the 5s, it was not around 2 years ago, and I have a feeling you might try that one, I'm relation to still being sold, but irrelevant to a device that is 2 years old

 

[Max(IT)]

So you raise the assumption that a 2 year old iPhone holds its value much better that cheap android, well hello, is the pope Catholic? So I called your assumption, comparing the base iPhone 5 to base s4, checked the used prices, and I'm not seeing a much better return!

But hey, feel free to now switch the discussion to markert share. Yet again, I know the pope is Catholic and the iPhone 5 had much better share.

Would you like to finish the holding of value discussion , or have me switch to agree that iPhone 5 was more popular than the S4, but saying the s4 never had or has a markert is a silly statement , cause I am not talking about the 5s, it was not around 2 years ago, and I have a feeling you might try that one, I'm relation to still being sold, but irrelevant to a device that is 2 years old

My point is that you can easily sell an iPhone 5 for a good value, while you can't sell an S4.
No matter if you found someone delusional enough to try to sell a galaxy S4 for the same amount of money.

 

[MH01]

My point is that you can easily sell an iPhone 5 for a good value, while you can't sell an S4.
No matter if you found someone delusional enough to try to sell a galaxy S4 for the same amount of money.

Your talking rubbish. Sorry, but those are sweeping statements, and based on your bias you are totally discrediting the S4 as not holding any value and the iphone 5 holding its value.

It has nothing to do with disillusion, its a different OS! Someone buying an S4 is not in the market for an iphone, so yeah they can pay almost the same

http://mobilevaluer.com/mobile/working/apple/iphone-5-16gb/
http://mobilevaluer.com/mobile/working/samsung/galaxy-s4/

The reason I looked up services that buy or trade in phones, its a good basis for the prices that these can be resold.

The iphone 5 holds a small margin in regards to resale value.

Please feel free and do your own research where you can prove that an iphone 5 base model, holds its value much better than an samsung s4, I only see a marginal difference. And I can see plenty of people paying the same amount.

Try using facts to support your argument, cause frankly your generalizing a lot!

 

[samcraig]

I've heard people complain about annoying carrier-specific startup sequences

To each their own - but these types of people truly baffle me. As if it's something to truly get annoyed about. I reboot my phone so seldom - and when I do, I'm not staring at it. When I do - the 2-3 seconds of a carrier logo certainly doesn't ruin my day.

I know we're not talking about you - and I know people have the right to feel how they feel. I just think that in the scheme of things, these types of people are a bit extreme.

 

[Keane16]

I was talking about companies making a profit. I'm not trying to rile up anyone. I'm merely giving my opinion that as a consumer it's irrational to brag about how much money a company makes when I have no vested interest in said company. It is as logical as hoping gas prices rise so Exxon makes more profit.

As far as I can see nobody you replied to claimed to be a consumer. Perhaps they were shareholders and therefore rightly pleased their holding is doing well.