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Well I cant confirm if they are solid facts as you'd need a whole bunch of iOS/Android devs to share their income data, but for me, I've got around 10 apps on the iOS App Store, and only 4 apps on the Google Play Store.

On iOS some of my apps are paid, the free ones are iAd supported.
On Android, they are all paid.

If I take an example of one app that I've released on both app stores, they are both priced at $0.99 USD. The Android version gets more downloads (and thus makes more money).

Basically, for me I've found there to be a larger Android audience for the types of apps I make.

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It would be physically impossible for apple to simply 'download a copy of android' and 'copy across' the notifications. Apple had to make that from scratch, not copy code from Android. Obviously notification center is a blatant copy of the Android notification system, but there is no way in hell it will be using the same code.


I did not imply that. Obviously Apple needs to do a lot of coding on their own. That's why the new features show up in Samsung version of OS before they do in the Apple version :D
 
Afaik there are 2 Galaxy Nexus variants. One gets updates direct from Google (yakju) and the other from Samsung (yakjuxw).

http://atlocalhost.wordpress.com/20...y-nexus-maguro-shipped-with-yakjuxw-firmware/


Kinda like the situation with the Xoom and the way Xooms have not received ICS except for the US and CA.

There are more than those. Here is the complete list of Galaxy Nexus Varients:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#mysid

mysid is the Verizon version.
 
Yea.... except you see percentages. The share is shown, not the number. It could be that the growth of iOS development is just slower than that of Android. As many pointed out: The revenue is important for developers - simply, most of them live off it. So, you either have a good free app where people touch your banners or links often enough so you make money, or you get your app to be bought for real money in the first place.

Now, if your App at the AppStore (Apple, for those who don't know :) ) brings in revenue, you might just stick with it and make it better, get some in-app purchaise going if possible, etc. and you won't count for "new releases" anymore in the above statistic.
Others mentioned it: Android is all about free and mass. If you are the same developer and your app just does so-so, you gotta get the next app onto the bandwagon so you keep getting money. Updates etc. might not accumulate the revenue like in iOS, so they are less attractive. Besides, having to deal with "screen size multiplied by Android versions running" - or a gazillion possible configurations - your App might be buggy on a lot of devices and then you just keep bugfixing (not even mentioning that the bugfix could create a malfunction on a device it worked well with before the "fix").

Talking about that: How many devices do you have to own as a dev to make sure it works vs. developing on iOS? iPhones:
1. original
2. 3g
3. 3GS
4. 4
5. 4LTE
6. 4S
(and some iPod Touch - but same hardware and screen sizes)

So, you are at less than 20 devices for handheld. Now, just look how many different ones come out each month for Android. I can imagine, it's a nightmare...


I am unfamiliar with the "4LTE".
 
And a valid reputation at that. I know of several people who have had both an android and an iPhone who purchased apps for iOS but not their android.

Yes .. And to make things worse. Some dont even own an iPhone and just having Android because they want super cheap phone and all apps for free.

Android is well known for having a bunch of pirated apps, ad supported apps and cheapskate users. Now that will offend a few Android users who actually PAY for any apps require them too.

But an image is an image, and Android being an "open source" system giving people an impression that everything can be "free" in their world, either by pirating apps or adware.

Why a developer would live in a world like that?
 
Yes .. And to make things worse. Some dont even own an iPhone and just having Android because they want super cheap phone and all apps for free.

Android is well known for having a bunch of pirated apps, ad supported apps and cheapskate users. Now that will offend a few Android users who actually PAY for any apps require them too.

But an image is an image, and Android being an "open source" system giving people an impression that everything can be "free" in their world, either by pirating apps or adware.

Why a developer would live in a world like that?

I find everything you say ignorant and offensive to honest people that actually buy apps on Android. I own a Galaxy Nexus and a iPad 3 and I do not have any pirated apps on my Nexus. Maybe it's the people you hang around but I doubt that you can speak for every Android owner. And on top of that jailbroken iPhones and iPads can run pirated apps and unsigned code. I jailbroke my iPad weeks ago and it was so simple I child could do it. I do not consider all people that jailbreak thieves and I don't consider people that load unsigned code and free apps bad people.
You people make Android out to be the devils playpen. People can't acknowledge that Android has some good things going for it. People take the bad and magnify it 100%. I've never had any viruses or major issues with Android. As I said before, stick with a well known phone and you won't have major issues.
 
I find everything you say ignorant and offensive to honest people that actually buy apps on Android. I own a Galaxy Nexus and a iPad 3 and I do not have any pirated apps on my Nexus. Maybe it's the people you hang around but I doubt that you can speak for every Android owner. And on top of that jailbroken iPhones and iPads can run pirated apps and unsigned code. I jailbroke my iPad weeks ago and it was so simple I child could do it. I do not consider all people that jailbreak thieves and I don't consider people that load unsigned code and free apps bad people.
You people make Android out to be the devils playpen. People can't acknowledge that Android has some good things going for it. People take the bad and magnify it 100%. I've never had any viruses or major issues with Android. As I said before, stick with a well known phone and you won't have major issues.

Right .. And you missed the part of my post saying "Maybe this will offend some people who actually PAY for Android apps" .. Means I am aware that some people with Android pay their apps and contribute for developers. So I'm not accusing all of them are cheapskate.

My post wasnt long. So it doesnt take too much time to read completely and feel offended. :rolleyes:
 
The below post is well worth reading if you haven't.

One of common complaints of many on this forum is how huge Android phones are. How unwieldy. "It won't fit in my pocket!" "That can't be operated with one hand." And this was back when the phones were 4". I have a Skyrocket (and iPhone 4) and right now it's PAINFUL to go back to the 4 when I use one of the apps that isn't on my Skyrocket (and it's few). The screen is tiny. And I'm not that old. But the iPhone (for me) now is a bit of a struggle. And guess what. The "ginormous" Skyrocket fits in my pocket just as easily as the iPhone. And get this - I can operate it easily with one hand. Crazy!

I have a lot invested in Apple (hardware) - a few iMacs, a MacBook Pro, a couple of Apple TVs, and an iPad - plus the iPhone 4. I'm not a "fandroid" - but at the same time - I'm not sure that Apple will be able to entice me back to using their phones even though I'm also heavily invested in their ecosystem. For my phone, I simply want more that Apple can provide. Reverting back from 4.5" to anything smaller just doesn't make sense.

As for Apps - I'm no power App buyer, etc. But App for App that I own and use - I see little difference in quality amongst them. And even some clear advantages of the ones for Android because of the customization, widgets and integration.

My .02.

As an Android user my biggest issue with Apple has nothing to do with apps, the quality of the Apps or even the price of such Apps. My issues are all hardware based. Try using a 3.5 inch display after using a 4.65 inch for 7 months and a 4.3 inch for 1 year. That's like watching movies on a 50 inch 1080p TV and then downgrading to a 32 inch 720p set. It's near impossible to enjoy the experience once you've been spoiled by a large display. I buy Android Apps and there are plenty of free apps that improve the experience. People on these Apple forums want to believe that the Android app store is a total fragmented disaster but a good majority of you never used an Android device for a long period of time. If you stay away from crappy Android phones you won't have a crappy experience. I for one own an iPad 3 and I like the Android play store better than the Apple store. Don’t get me wrong. The iPad is number one when it comes to overall experience but it feels like I'm going to get robbed when I'm in the Apple store.
But a few weeks ago I thought that if Apple released a larger iPhone I would have a change of heart but at only 4 inches it might not be enough. 4 inch Android phones were the standard over 2 years ago. And knowing Apple their going to keep this new display/form factor for 2 to 3 years. At this stage I can live with fragmentation if OEM’s continue to make better phones every year. I just have to upgrade on a yearly basis but that’s no different then what iPhone buyers do anyway.
 
Right .. And you missed the part of my post saying "Maybe this will offend some people who actually PAY for Android apps" .. Means I am aware that some people with Android pay their apps and contribute for developers. So I'm not accusing all of them are cheapskate.

My post wasnt long. So it doesnt take too much time to read completely and feel offended. :rolleyes:

You are pretty contradictory with your theory. And you're pretty ignorant for not knowing jail broken iPhones means free apps with the hacked app store. It really isn't that hard to jailbreak the iPhone.
 
The adoption rate for new versions of Android is quite sad and would seem to hurt the platform. Only 7% of their base is able to take advantage of any new features in the latest OS? As a developer, doesn't this affect your choice in using those new features (as you'd be missing a large portion of the devices out there)? That seems to suck for both the developers and the users.



Honestly I don't know how any normal user could accept that. Only people that upgrade their phones every twelve months would not be totally screwed.

It is a massive problem for the platform. That factor alone dismisses android from serious consideration for me.

I own many generations of iPhones all still being used and all have had years of quick major updates. Buying a computer where the os is eol when you buy it is a horrible deal unless it costs very little. Paying hundreds of dollars for a cutting edge computer that will never see a major os upgrade is crazy.
 
Honestly I don't know how any normal user could accept that. Only people that upgrade their phones every twelve months would not be totally screwed.

It is a massive problem for the platform. That factor alone dismisses android from serious consideration for me.

I own many generations of iPhones all still being used and all have had years of quick major updates. Buying a computer where the os is eol when you buy it is a horrible deal unless it costs very little. Paying hundreds of dollars for a cutting edge computer that will never see a major os upgrade is crazy.

So, you are buying new iPhone every year and pity Android users who... have to do the same.
 
great, more videogames for the iOS kids :rolleyes:

I basically use remote apps, a Gameboy Advance emulator, and Terminal on my iPhone, but it's nice that so many things have iOS apps now.

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Honestly I don't know how any normal user could accept that. Only people that upgrade their phones every twelve months would not be totally screwed.

It is a massive problem for the platform. That factor alone dismisses android from serious consideration for me.

I own many generations of iPhones all still being used and all have had years of quick major updates. Buying a computer where the os is eol when you buy it is a horrible deal unless it costs very little. Paying hundreds of dollars for a cutting edge computer that will never see a major os upgrade is crazy.

The (few) Android users I know either never upgrade or get new phones frequently. And unless you get a total POC phone, it's quite expensive ($300+ with a contract).

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I find everything you say ignorant and offensive to honest people that actually buy apps on Android. I own a Galaxy Nexus and a iPad 3 and I do not have any pirated apps on my Nexus. Maybe it's the people you hang around but I doubt that you can speak for every Android owner. And on top of that jailbroken iPhones and iPads can run pirated apps and unsigned code. I jailbroke my iPad weeks ago and it was so simple I child could do it. I do not consider all people that jailbreak thieves and I don't consider people that load unsigned code and free apps bad people.
You people make Android out to be the devils playpen. People can't acknowledge that Android has some good things going for it. People take the bad and magnify it 100%. I've never had any viruses or major issues with Android. As I said before, stick with a well known phone and you won't have major issues.

Yeah, jailbreakers and Android-users aren't pirates. Of course, there are more than there are on normal iOS, but that's obvious. I don't like how people pirate iOS apps because it makes Apple regard jailbreakers as enemies, so they do their best to make it hard to jailbreak. I'm just a user who wants advanced stuff like Terminal on my iPhone!

Android is supposed to be good because it's "open", but that just makes finding good apps harder. On iOS, if I want to get sketchy apps, I can open Cydia. If I want clean apps, I can use the App Store. I went on the Android store, and it's full of trash.
 
I Miss IOS

Sorry Folks, I realize this is off topic, but I've had a drink or two.

I had an iPhone 4, and recently took advantage of a next to nothing upgrade via VZW, in order to move from unlimited 3G to unlim 4G, in order to keep the unlim 4G when the new iPhone arrives.

I'm trying vehemently to re-adjust to Android, my first smartphone was the Droid 2. Damn its tough.

I'm not just being a Apple fanboy here, but DAMN have I learned the definition of SuckBucket after having dealt with both, and gone back to 'Droid.

Ug.

Ug. Ug. Ug.
 
iOS vs Android

Hi,

I've written a few apps for iOS and have just spend some months porting one of them to Android.

On apple there is the 'New Releases' section. So if your app is of good enough quality you get a good bite of the cherry on Day 1. For my Lexigon game it was about 1000+ on day one.

On google play there isn't any equivalent 'New Releases' section so you are instantly at the bottom of the pile. When I released Lexigon for Android on Day 1 I got 1 (one) download. (not including steve's mum)

Forget about all the technical challenges, this is biggest reason I might never do another Android app. Of course, if I get a good number of 'customers' from my other apps then it's worth going back to Android. But until then, as with most things in life, it's just the big boys that get the action. For the indie developer you better just accept it's a fun hobby and don't expect too much from Android.

I'm writing a blog about my 'fun' with being a developer. If you are interested go to lazybrush.wordpress.com.

Andy
 
Hi,

I've written a few apps for iOS and have just spend some months porting one of them to Android.

On apple there is the 'New Releases' section. So if your app is of good enough quality you get a good bite of the cherry on Day 1. For my Lexigon game it was about 1000+ on day one.

On google play there isn't any equivalent 'New Releases' section so you are instantly at the bottom of the pile. When I released Lexigon for Android on Day 1 I got 1 (one) download. (not including steve's mum)

Forget about all the technical challenges, this is biggest reason I might never do another Android app. Of course, if I get a good number of 'customers' from my other apps then it's worth going back to Android. But until then, as with most things in life, it's just the big boys that get the action. For the indie developer you better just accept it's a fun hobby and don't expect too much from Android.

I'm writing a blog about my 'fun' with being a developer. If you are interested go to lazybrush.wordpress.com.

Andy

You do know there is an option to promote your app on Google Play right? It allows you to advertise your product.
 
Wow

Talk about reality distortion fields. It's like the Chatholic church issueing a news releases titled, "Priests rarely rape children."

You, and they, missed the point. In reality developers are switching to Android in dramatically increasing numbers... and sometimes priests rape children. Those are the important facts so spinning them to try to make iOS or the Catholic church look better only highlights the reality and your inability to accept it.
 
Rovio said they make far more money on Android than ios. I thought the Android market was growing faster than Apple one too. :confused:
 
You do know there is an option to promote your app on Google Play right? It allows you to advertise your product.

Hi,

Yes, however that means spending money. I don't have money to spend on advertising. I also think that my return from advertising would be about 10:1 or there a bouts. As in every 10 I spend, I might get back 1. Again, it only works if you are one of the main players.

Maybe one day I'll hit the jackpot and people will go to www.lazybrush.co.uk to play my games.... until then... I'll keep on dreaming...

andy
 
Honestly I don't know how any normal user could accept that. Only people that upgrade their phones every twelve months would not be totally screwed.

It is a massive problem for the platform. That factor alone dismisses android from serious consideration for me.

I own many generations of iPhones all still being used and all have had years of quick major updates. Buying a computer where the os is eol when you buy it is a horrible deal unless it costs very little. Paying hundreds of dollars for a cutting edge computer that will never see a major os upgrade is crazy.

Failed logic since so many iPhone users upgrade every year. EOL is moot. The people who upgrade every year are probably also the same people who install every update.

There are many people I know who have never updated their iPhone OS nor their Android OS. They just don't care. Don't do it. It's not some "massive" problem for the platform. It might be a "massive" problem for YOU and that's why you don't use Android. But you aren't everyone.

And you can't compare computers and phones. Most people use the same computer for FAR longer than phones.
 
Makes sense.

iPhones aren't given away from carriers so the people that use iPhones and iPads are likely to support third party developers

Sorry, but I can't follow your logic and don't see what one thing might have to do with the other.

Anyway, another way to interpret those charts is this: Interest in iOS is slowly dropping and the interest in Android at the same time is increasing.

Which is not surprising at all considering that the Android platform is outselling iOS devices. Well, at least in the entire rest of the world. You Americans live on an island and your market is not representative for the rest of the planet.
 
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