iOS is more buggy than Android these days.

wilky76

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I've been lucky with iOS8 on my 5S i haven't encountered to many problems since installing it, the only real major problem seems to be with wifi it slow, and some slight lag when scrolling in wallpapers.

But countless other have been complaining about alot of other things moreso if you own an ipad which it don't.

Now i also have a Moto X & a Samsung Galaxy Tab S, both running Android with the Moto X running Android Kitkat 4.4.4 & there not been a single problem with any bugs at all, that might change when Android L comes along, but in past when a new version of Android comes out the bugs are usually so minor they not worth mentioning and don't effect day to day use of the phone.


It seems to me these days iOS is rushed then fixed at a later date but in the meantime people have to put up with problems that effect the use of their tablets and their iPhones plus it also missing features that should have come out when iOS8 launched.

iOS7 was just as bad and it took till nearly end of it life to finally get it stable that most people where happy with.


Now i don't want the Apple fanboys coming in saying iOS8 is the best ever and trying to defend Apple, what I'm saying as it is now Android is a more stable OS than iOS is and has been like that for the past couple of years now.
 

Orlandoech

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Switch over to Android completely then? Then tap yourself on the back and say "go me, go me".

Seriously... iOS 7 and iOS 8 launches have been horrid and riddled with bugs.
 

wilky76

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Switch over to Android completely then? Then tap yourself on the back and say "go me, go me".

Seriously... iOS 7 and iOS 8 launches have been horrid and riddled with bugs.
iOS 8 should be stable, it not a massive change from iOS 7 but yet it feels just like when iOS 7 was released.
 
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Menel

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iOS 8 should be a stable, it not a massive change from iOS 7 but yet it feels just like when iOS 7 was released.

The only thing massive in iOS7 was fru fru special effects and icon art.

The new API for iOS8... share extensions, photo extensions, action extensions, touchid api, HealthKit, document picker, icloud sync changing, photo organization reworked, homekit, more... Would effect stability
 

sziehr

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it is true that IOS has gotten to the level of bugs as android used to have. This should also be thought as growing pain. Android has leveled off in there growth of features and is now moving to a refine stage. This is how things go, slow and steady. I think once they nail down the issues which they will it will be the most powerful most integrates unit possible. There are growing pains and i think they should just come out and say hey we see there are issues we are going to keep making 7.1.2 available for people who are having issues. They also should engage the customers more who are having issues to fully capture the issues even in small doses.

I think we will get steady fixes as things pop up. The dev pool is not tiny compared to the total release so they are not gonna catch everything. I have said it once i will say it again they need an angle testers OSX did this a few years back they let non developers and non apple staff beta test the new software and report wide bugs back to apple to get fixed. I think that would be ideal for apple and a wider user base.
 

Bahroo

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In one month not even, so many bugs and glitches will be squashed, apps will be recompiled/updated to iOS 8 and recompiled for the new A8, iOS 8.0.1/8.0.2 will defitnetly have been out by then, launches arent really the smoothest ever
 

FreeState

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The only thing massive in iOS7 was fru fru special effects and icon art.

The new API for iOS8... share extensions, photo extensions, action extensions, touchid api, HealthKit, document picker, icloud sync changing, photo organization reworked, homekit, more... Would effect stability
Never mind that there are over 4000 new APIs and a whole new programing language (Swift) on top of that.
 

Razeus

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It's the buggiest release I've ever seen, and I never complain about releases. I'm sure we'll see 8.1 next month along with Yosemite release to add in features iOS 8 still needs.

Yosemite should have came out first, but unfortunately, iOS drives all the business decisions at Apple.:(
 

hasanahmad

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I've been lucky with iOS8 on my 5S i haven't encountered to many problems since installing it, the only real major problem seems to be with wifi it slow, and some slight lag when scrolling in wallpapers.

But countless other have been complaining about alot of other things moreso if you own an ipad which it don't.

Now i also have a Moto X & a Samsung Galaxy Tab S, both running Android with the Moto X running Android Kitkat 4.4.4 & there not been a single problem with any bugs at all, that might change when Android L comes along, but in past when a new version of Android comes out the bugs are usually so minor they not worth mentioning and don't effect day to day use of the phone.


It seems to me these days iOS is rushed then fixed at a later date but in the meantime people have to put up with problems that effect the use of their tablets and their iPhones plus it also missing features that should have come out when iOS8 launched.

iOS7 was just as bad and it took till nearly end of it life to finally get it stable that most people where happy with.


Now i don't want the Apple fanboys coming in saying iOS8 is the best ever and trying to defend Apple, what I'm saying as it is now Android is a more stable OS than iOS is and has been like that for the past couple of years now.
Time to switch, close the forum. Age of apple ios is over

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iOS 8 should be stable, it not a massive change from iOS 7 but yet it feels just like when iOS 7 was released.
Do you even know that ios 8 is the biggest change to ios that Apple has ever done? Ios 7 was only a visual change, ios 8 changes the layer of the os under the os
 

blueflower

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The only thing massive in iOS7 was fru fru special effects and icon art.

The new API for iOS8... share extensions, photo extensions, action extensions, touchid api, HealthKit, document picker, icloud sync changing, photo organization reworked, homekit, more... Would effect stability
it is true that IOS has gotten to the level of bugs as android used to have. This should also be thought as growing pain. Android has leveled off in there growth of features and is now moving to a refine stage. This is how things go, slow and steady. I think once they nail down the issues which they will it will be the most powerful most integrates unit possible. There are growing pains and i think they should just come out and say hey we see there are issues we are going to keep making 7.1.2 available for people who are having issues. They also should engage the customers more who are having issues to fully capture the issues even in small doses.

I think we will get steady fixes as things pop up. The dev pool is not tiny compared to the total release so they are not gonna catch everything. I have said it once i will say it again they need an angle testers OSX did this a few years back they let non developers and non apple staff beta test the new software and report wide bugs back to apple to get fixed. I think that would be ideal for apple and a wider user base.
Excellent posts. Menel you forgot keyboard to third party devs, handoffs, continuity updates etc. ios 7 was mostly an aesthetic update. ios 8 is a more comprehensive update but that does not mean that we should excuse them for releasing a buggy os.

sziehr I completely agree with you. Do people realize just how many versions of android have come out since its inception? It is about android became more stable and still it is not the pinnacle of stability. Research the android.process error that has plagued basically every android release.

Apple needs to use some of its obscene cash pile and hire some extremely talented programmers to bring a seamless and beautiful experience to ios.
 

Damolee

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Certainly less stable than my HTC One M8 was, that's for sure. And pretty worrying.

Apple use to pride themselves on the OS.

I switched back to enjoy a less hassle experience and found the opposite. Weird how that goes.
 

matttye

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Time to switch, close the forum. Age of apple ios is over

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Do you even know that ios 8 is the biggest change to ios that Apple has ever done? Ios 7 was only a visual change, ios 8 changes the layer of the os under the os

Yes I agree it is the biggest update to date. I hope they manage to get it stable over the next couple of versions as it really is pretty terrible at the minute.

I'm getting a lot of crashes to the home screen.
 

Woochifer

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YMMV

Aside from some minor lagging, for me the upgrade has been very smooth so far. The only app crashes I've experienced occurred in apps that already gave me problems in iOS 7.1.2. I haven't dug too far into the new features, but as far as everyday functionality, iOS 8.0 has been much more stable than iOS 7.0.

Anyone who thinks iOS 8 is the worst release ever just needs to recall or look up the "white screen of death" that accompanied iOS 7. None of the reported problems with iOS 8 even come close to that.
 

BasicGreatGuy

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Sep 21, 2012
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In the middle of several books.
Any OS has bugs.

Apple is trying to make an OS that not only runs fast and secure on small specs, but also fits the needs of a large base of people.

I am not excusing OS bugs. I am simply saying that this happens with every OS, whether it is iOS, Android, or Microsoft. The difference, in my opinion, is how quickly Apple addresses the OS problems.

The benchmark is not Android. And trying to use Android as the benchmark for how buggy iOS 8 is, is a logical fallacy.
 

Stuntman06

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Sep 19, 2011
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The benchmark is not Android. And trying to use Android as the benchmark for how buggy iOS 8 is, is a logical fallacy.
I think that the OP is just comparing his experience with the stability of iOS and Android over the years. My experience with Android is that my SGS3 which was released in 2012 was significantly more stable than my HTC Desire Z which was released in 2010. In comparison, my SGS3 is about as stable as my iPad Mini and iPhone 5S. No phone or OS is perfect, but overall, I am quite happy with the stability of the devices I currently use.

I just recently updated my iPad Mini. I personally have not noticed any stability issues with it on iOS 8 compared to iOS 7. I only had it for a few days. I'm currently updating my iPhone 5S now.

I would say that looking at forum posts by users is not a good way to assess the stability of a product. There is no compiled data. Just anecdotes. The number of people writing about issues is not necessarily indicative to how prevalent they are.

The only stability research I recall seeing was done I think 2 years ago or so. It compared the iOS and Android versions at the time and compared the rate of app crashes. At the time, the first study showed that iOS had a higher rate of app crashes than Android. Then some time later, the study was redone when a new point release of iOS was out and the iOS app crashes were reduced. Most likely, the data fluctuates with each version of each OS.

I haven't seen such a study that is recent (within the past year). I would be interested to see these stats for iOS 8 compared to other versions of iOS and Android. iOS 8 does offer a lot of new features.
 

richardmu

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Oct 10, 2007
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I have Apple kit for many years and I cannot remember an OS release
that has given me so many problems as iOS 8.
My iPad Air is almost unusable because of intermittent wifi problems. I have
had every problem that countless other users have reported with their iPad.
Endless attempts to fix them but nothing makes any difference.
When it works it's very good but mostly it loses wifi connection, then when
it is connected it suddenly stops loading pages and just hangs.
I can usually get it working again but who needs all this hassle when it
worked flawlessly before iOS 8. An iPad is useless without fully functioning
wifi.
 

Woochifer

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I have Apple kit for many years and I cannot remember an OS release
that has given me so many problems as iOS 8.
My iPad Air is almost unusable because of intermittent wifi problems. I have
had every problem that countless other users have reported with their iPad.
Endless attempts to fix them but nothing makes any difference.
When it works it's very good but mostly it loses wifi connection, then when
it is connected it suddenly stops loading pages and just hangs.
I can usually get it working again but who needs all this hassle when it
worked flawlessly before iOS 8. An iPad is useless without fully functioning
wifi.
Have you tried restoring the device to factory settings before installing iOS 8 and then restoring from backup? Or resetting the network settings? Or rebooting the router and/or updating the firmware on the router?

Wi-fi issues are nothing new with iOS updates, and there are a lot of possible issues and remedies out there.
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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Pretty much all software is buggy, especially so when it comes to software that is complex like an OS and that runs on millions upon millions devices. The more complex it gets, the more users use it, the more devices for it exist, the more bugs will be noticed, especially with initial first versions of a brand new version. Not sure why this is a surprise.
 

Woochifer

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I would say that looking at forum posts by users is not a good way to assess the stability of a product. There is no compiled data. Just anecdotes. The number of people writing about issues is not necessarily indicative to how prevalent they are.

The only stability research I recall seeing was done I think 2 years ago or so. It compared the iOS and Android versions at the time and compared the rate of app crashes. At the time, the first study showed that iOS had a higher rate of app crashes than Android. Then some time later, the study was redone when a new point release of iOS was out and the iOS app crashes were reduced. Most likely, the data fluctuates with each version of each OS.

I haven't seen such a study that is recent (within the past year). I would be interested to see these stats for iOS 8 compared to other versions of iOS and Android. iOS 8 does offer a lot of new features.
Exactly. The tech press loves anecdotes because they can predefine the story line and find whatever they need to confirm what they already intended to write. And people trolling on forums love anecdotes as well because it justifies confirmation bias to anyone.

I remember another study from last year that said crashes occurred twice as often with the iPhone 5s, and attributed that to growing pains with the 64-bit code. In my experience, using iOS 7 on a 5s caused crashes early and often. Apple did have things largely stabilized by the time 7.0.4 came out last November, so I would be curious to see how these studies compare once particular OS versions mature after the initial release.
 

thedeejay

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I've been lucky with iOS8 on my 5S i haven't encountered to many problems since installing it, the only real major problem seems to be with wifi it slow, and some slight lag when scrolling in wallpapers.

But countless other have been complaining about alot of other things moreso if you own an ipad which it don't.

Now i also have a Moto X & a Samsung Galaxy Tab S, both running Android with the Moto X running Android Kitkat 4.4.4 & there not been a single problem with any bugs at all, that might change when Android L comes along, but in past when a new version of Android comes out the bugs are usually so minor they not worth mentioning and don't effect day to day use of the phone.


It seems to me these days iOS is rushed then fixed at a later date but in the meantime people have to put up with problems that effect the use of their tablets and their iPhones plus it also missing features that should have come out when iOS8 launched.

iOS7 was just as bad and it took till nearly end of it life to finally get it stable that most people where happy with.


Now i don't want the Apple fanboys coming in saying iOS8 is the best ever and trying to defend Apple, what I'm saying as it is now Android is a more stable OS than iOS is and has been like that for the past couple of years now.
Anyways OP, I've been with iPhone since 3G and although I cannot recall my older experiences with Apple software, I remember that iOS 5, 6, 7 and now 8 have all been quite buggy. However by the time 8.1 will come around it's rock solid. Wait till 8.1, I'm sure you'll reevaluate.
 
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