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iOS Surges Past 60% Share of Mobile Web Traffic

samcraig said:
Again - I don't think so - and neither would the 1000+ consultants who work for the IT company I'm at either. But I'm not going to argue the point because it's really not important anyway and not germane to the topic as well.
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It doesn't really help the discussion to repeat your opinion without anything to back it up. Made up statistics don't help either.

I posted the definition (provided by Google) of the term "search engine." Siri meets that definition. It's pretty simple really.
 
BaldiMac said:
It doesn't really help the discussion to repeat your opinion without anything to back it up. Made up statistics don't help either.

I posted the definition (provided by Google) of the term "search engine." Siri meets that definition. It's pretty simple really.
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Siri is a search AGENT - not Engine

http://searchenginewatch.com/articl...iri-Will-Search-Agents-Replace-Search-Engines

There's a difference. There's an example of "proof" also illustrating my initial point which was that Siri is a "front end" to search engines. It's not a search engine itself - no matter how Google defines it. It takes information and then sends it out to various engines and then delivers the information. Hence an Agent - not Engine...

But again - I didn't want to get into that discussion because it's really not all that important what it is and isn't - the end result is the same.
 
propea said:
What the hell is "Others" ?
Pocket Netscape Navigator? :D
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That would be Microsoft's phone OS, which has to be embarrassing for a company not used to being classified as an "also ran."

WestonHarvey1 said:
Do Android users not surf the web or something? I thought Android had trounced iOS in installed base?
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Shows you how much a big deal "Flash" is to those power-users. <snark snark>

justinfreid said:
I think that's a great point. My guess is that the web experience is better on iOS so it keeps people using Mobile Safari.
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That, and how much more someone uses a product when it's easy to use.
 
*LTD* said:
It's certainly a better experience.
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Define your criteria for better please. Personally I think this point is subjective. Have you used BOTH Android and iOS devices the same amount to really get a feel - or is your opinion based on very causal usage of one and deep usage of the other? Sincerely curious.
 
Oletros said:
And you know that they "can't get simple browsing right" and they'e @frustrated and/or pissed" exactly how?
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I get a Nexus S or Atrix and the browsing is ass, I'd naturally be a little pissed and frustrated. That's basic stuff that needs to work right. But then again, that's Android, a lot of the basics are still rough, even years later.

Unless you get a chubby from slow and laggy web-browsing.
 
*LTD* said:
What's the difference?

You don't need to visit Detroit to know the place is a dump.
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Bad analogy. And (as if we needed any proof) indicated clear bias.

To COMPARE - you actually do have to have used both. Otherwise - you're just talking out of your youknowwhat
 
Oletros said:
Even if it is a better experience, it is not an easier one
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It is definitely an easier one. I went to PC world the other day and gave a shot to Galaxy 10.1 and good lord and I couldn't use the browser at all.

It was all flashy stuff with a bright tint on all controls with a circular wheel on the left and I couldn't a clue. It is apparent in the way, I'm describing the interface as I am really not able to.

Couldn't find the bookmark button, couldn't find the address bar; 10 minutes and I was done.

It is definitely hard to use the browser on Galaxy10.1. Obviously if one feels supercilious, then great, but I have got better work to do.
 
dethmaShine said:
It is definitely an easier one. I went to PC world the other day and gave a shot to Galaxy 10.1 and good lord and I couldn't use the browser at all.

It was all flashy stuff with a bright tint on all controls with a circular wheel on the left and I couldn't a clue. It is apparent in the way, I'm describing the interface as I am really not able to.

Couldn't find the bookmark button, couldn't find the address bar; 10 minutes and I was done.

It is definitely hard to use the browser on Galaxy10.1. Obviously if one feels supercilious, then great, but I have got better work to do.
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So, you have used a random Galaxy 10.1 in a shop and then you can confirm that is not easier to use?

Ups, the thing you used is an ADVANCED mode to use with thumbs that must be activated inside the "Labs" section of settings.

Quick-Controls-Detail-011.jpg


The standard one is:

browser-1.jpg


So, yes is as easy as in iOS.
 
*LTD* said:
I get a Nexus S or Atrix and the browsing is ass, I'd naturally be a little pissed and frustrated. That's basic stuff that needs to work right. But then again, that's Android, a lot of the basics are still rough, even years later.

Unless you get a chubby from slow and laggy web-browsing.
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Nexus S Web Browser Review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=b7om8bnfNnk#t=350s

"Anyone into web browsing will be satisfied with it."-Phonedog reviewer guy

Android web browsers are as good as iOS web browsers.
 
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*LTD* said:
It's certainly a better experience. Android browsers suck.
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Umm have you ever used the Android browser. Oh wait look who I am talking too, someone who has never really used one and has no room to talk.

In comparing iOS browser (mobile Safari) vs Android (stock) I find the Android browser to be better in most thing but dealing with jumping between tabs. It deals with text better and does text wrapping. This helps out when zooming in as the text wraps around. Compare this to iOS you have to move the screen left and right to read everything.

Over all I take Android stock browser over mobile Safari.

Hell I like the stock Android browser over Dolphin, Firefox and Bolt (all of which are on my phone)

But then again you never really have truly used a non iOS product longer than to say oh it sucks.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
Umm have you ever used the Android browser. Oh wait look who I am talking too, someone who has never really used one and has no room to talk.

In comparing iOS browser (mobile Safari) vs Android (stock) I find the Android browser to be better in most thing but dealing with jumping between tabs. It deals with text better and does text wrapping. This helps out when zooming in as the text wraps around. Compare this to iOS you have to move the screen left and right to read everything.

Over all I take Android stock browser over mobile Safari.

Hell I like the stock Android browser over Dolphin, Firefox and Bolt (all of which are on my phone)

But then again you never really have truly used a non iOS product longer than to say oh it sucks.
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We know that. You're gonna take anything and everything over Apple products. Relax.
 
dethmaShine said:
We know that. You're gonna take anything and everything over Apple products. Relax.
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no that is not true. I know there are multiple post on these forums of me stating the music player part of the iPhone/ iPod touch is by far better than anything Android has to offer. It just works better. Their are work arounds for it for Android (double twist) but still not better than iOS. The movie player App on the iPod touch is better than what Android has. It only draw back is the very limited and crappy file support but that is different than the interface design which I do find better on iOS than Android.

so wise up before making those type of statements about someone.
 
thenerdal said:
Nexus S Web Browser Review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=b7om8bnfNnk#t=350s

"Anyone into web browsing will be satisfied with it."-Phonedog reviewer guy

Android web browsers are as good as iOS web browsers.
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http://www.cnet.com.au/samsung-nexus-s-339307800.htm

More disappointing, though, is the phone's sometimes laggy web browsing experience. For many people, web browsing is the core of a new smartphone, which is more important than call quality or any messaging feature. The Nexus S performed well under our page load speed tests, which is on par with the fastest Androids we've seen, but interacting with a loaded page can sometimes be a trying experience. Swiping to scroll down a page can be met by a second or two of lag, followed by extreme animation jitter. Even when the browser is working well it still feels like you're dragging the content of a website through molasses with your finger.

Identifying the issue behind this lag is difficult, especially given that the Nexus S looks fine on paper. It supports HSPA connectivity with 7.2Mbps maximum downlink and 5.76Mbps uplink, as well as connecting to Wi-Fi networks using wireless 802.11b/g/n protocols. It also features a Wi-Fi hotspot setting, allowing you to connect up to five different devices to share your phone's 3G connection over Wi-Fi. Some Nexus S users in the US speculate that the browser hasn't been optimised for use with Samsung's Hummingbird processor, a problem we really would have thought Google might have considered before partnering with Samsung on this project.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/google-nexus-s-913562/review?artc_pg=5

There was still an element of juddering in scrolling around a loading page, and even when the text and images had fully loaded, it was still a little laggy at times. It's only slight, but the iPhone manages to be smooth nearly all the time, and that's where we want Android to get to.

The same can be said for text reflow (where the words re-jig to fit the screen). This is in effect on the Nexus S, but you need to tap the screen once zoomed in to make it work.



Curiously, quite a lot of reviews barely mention browser performance. Evidently, it's not that important for Google, either.
 
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*LTD* said:
http://www.cnet.com.au/samsung-nexus-s-339307800.htm
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come on use a site better than Cnet. Gizmodo is by far better than cnet and gizmodo is crap.

This does not do anything addressing the post where I ripped into your pointless bashing.

The sometimes part in that review also tells me they were trying to do stuff before the page finished loading. I can deal with that laggy problem on my iPod touch all the time. At least the page moves compare to the checkboard.
 
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