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iOS4 - Has it brought your 3G to its' knees?
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Coolio, I just didn't see any active threads going on this, and it is a bit of an issue IMHO. (I've been on vacation for the past couple of weeks too, and not really following MR *that* closely, sorry)
Does Apple QA anything anymore or do they just think that everything they do is perfect as designed?
Does Apple QA anything anymore or do they just think that everything they do is perfect as designed?
Well everyone was crying that 3G didn't get multitasking and stuff, I think we know why. It's hardware is 5 years old (same as the original iPhone that apple was designing in 2005)
Apple isn't gonna code different OS's for older hardware. Either upgrade, deal with it, or stay on 3.1.3
Apple isn't gonna code different OS's for older hardware. Either upgrade, deal with it, or stay on 3.1.3
Mmmkay, so consolidated inboxes and folders should not cripple the 3G as I see it. Do you?
Obviously you are coding ignorant.
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A unified inbox has nothing to do with why ios4 cripples the 3G. That stuff is on servers anyway. No I'm not a coder, nor do I know anything about it.
But your talking about putting a newly revised OS on 5 year old hardware. That doesn't make sense. Should I put vista on an old celeron computer? No.
Obviously apple didn't code ios4 to run on the 3G. I can't blame em. Just get a 3GS or a 4. There not gonna keep supporting old phones.
Has samsung updated the 3-4 year old blackjack? Nope. No phone companies focus on devices that are EOL (end of life)
If a specific device is still for sell, they support it. If it's not for sell, the dump it. It's how it works.
Apple should give the option to downgrade the OS if you experience problems with 3G on IOS4. I use my old 3G as ipod and web browser/games for my kid. When I upgraded the thing is insane slow.
I think apple let us have IOS4 on 3G so that we can see that we need to upgrade...!!! nice marketing strategy
I think apple let us have IOS4 on 3G so that we can see that we need to upgrade...!!! nice marketing strategy
Apple should give the option to downgrade the OS if you experience problems with 3G on IOS4. I use my old 3G as ipod and web browser/games for my kid. When I upgraded the thing is insane slow.
I think apple let us have IOS4 on 3G so that we can see that we need to upgrade...!!! nice marketing strategy
i agree. they should allow the option to downgrade.
I agree - so slow it's painful. I reboot daily and get a few hours of better speed before it grinds down again.
My other half has been using my black iP4 (she really needed a new phone!) while we were waiting for her white one to be available. Now it's been delayed again, there's no way she's having one - I need my iP4 now!
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Err... A 5 year old Celeron would have come with Vista pre-installed on it. And if you put Windows 7 on it, it would actually run better than it did with Vista...
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A 5 year old celeron would run like a 3G with ios4. It would be slow and buggy and not usable. Don't try and say vista would run flawless on a celeron from 2005. If memory serves it would've came with xp at that time anyways. Actually vista was not released until January 2007. It also was much later in the year that it came pre-installed on all machines. So a 2005 computer had to come with XP lol
I agree windows 7 would run better on it. But Microsoft has to make their OS with slower hardware in mind. Apple doesn't. Cell phones are treated a bit differently. Once it's off the shelf, they will simply not support it anymore. If they did nokia,samsung,lg etc would have hundreds of phones to still support and release updates to etc.
Fact of the matter is, the 3G isn't supported anymore. You can either downgrade. Keep ios4. Or upgrade your device. Period.
Gruber posted a video about this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdk2cJpSXLg&feature=player_embedded
Apparently a DFU restore improves things.
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I don't know, I restored my old 3G to 4.0 and set it up as new and it's been running just fine and now on 4.0.1 also running fine.
downgrade
My 3G became pretty much unusable on 4.0 so I downgraded back to 3.1 and it goes like lightning again. Apple are clever they have allowed the upgrade on a 3G to show how outdated the phone is....and needs upgrading!
My 3G became pretty much unusable on 4.0 so I downgraded back to 3.1 and it goes like lightning again. Apple are clever they have allowed the upgrade on a 3G to show how outdated the phone is....and needs upgrading!
Some 3Gs running iOS4.0 become super-slow. But a DFU restore actually improves this. This suggests some kind of bug - rather than a problem with the OS itself.
iOS4.0 is a little slower than 3.1 . Which is unusual for Apple. Most Apple OS upgrades bring performance improvements to the same hardware. From what I am hearing, 4.1 will be faster.
And from my own personal experience, iOS4.0 running on a Jailbroken 3G is very slow indeed.
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Even the 3GS has a few issues, although one of those is an iOS4 cpu cycle bug which persists until resetting the device (I have an idea of what causes this, but not 100% sure atm)
If they can fix that, iOS4 is good for 3GS, but you still get the odd lag on menus, which is odd since the menus look exactly like iOS3... so there must be needless bloat added into iOS4
If they can fix that, iOS4 is good for 3GS, but you still get the odd lag on menus, which is odd since the menus look exactly like iOS3... so there must be needless bloat added into iOS4
Mine would work alright after a restart but quickly slow down and make me want to throw it against the wall. It wasn't as big of a deal as I had my iP4 on order and was just waiting on it. The problem is though my wife wants to use my 3G and I can't in my right mind give it to her for even a day because I know that she will get way more frustrated with it then I did. There definitely should be a way to restore to a previous OS for older models like this.
A warning to those still on iOs 3.1.3 and older:
iTunes is no longer allowing restored to firmware versions 4.0 and older, iTunes is now verifying SHSH when doing restores. This means the iPhone 3G can no longer be restored to anything earlier than what is current. Be very careful on what you are doing with your iPhone 3G if you wish to stay on 3.1.3, you will have no choice but to install 4.0.1 if you should need to restore.
I logged into Cydia this morning and it now has my SHSH stored for 4.0.
iTunes is no longer allowing restored to firmware versions 4.0 and older, iTunes is now verifying SHSH when doing restores. This means the iPhone 3G can no longer be restored to anything earlier than what is current. Be very careful on what you are doing with your iPhone 3G if you wish to stay on 3.1.3, you will have no choice but to install 4.0.1 if you should need to restore.
I logged into Cydia this morning and it now has my SHSH stored for 4.0.
You can jailbreak 3 to get those features and the ones Apple didn't give you with less of a performance hit than installing 4.
Exactly why I downgraded to 3.1.2. There really isn't much incentive for iOS 4 on the 3G anyway. Folders, unified inbox, and iAds. I guess I'll be missing out on all of the iAds. Oh, well...
I don't see any of the above on my 3Gs with IOS4. It's plain faster than it ever has been and runs flawlessly. Never had to reboot it and still haven't.