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Sorry if this is a silly question, but what's the point of a debugger running in the background?

If you have to ask, then you are not the intended audience for a beta iOS.

It's not meant to give casual users a sneak preview of iOS 7. It's intended to give developers a means of testing prior to the launch, so that their apps won't break.
 
If you have to ask, then you are not the intended audience for a beta iOS.

It's not meant to give casual users a sneak preview of iOS 7. It's intended to give developers a means of testing prior to the launch, so that their apps won't break.

I don't have the beta installed. I've been patiently waiting for the public release.
 
iOS 7 runs really well on the iPhone 5, so there's nothing to worry about. The only bit that feels slow is the animations, and that's due to design rather than hardware.

They already sped up some of the animations a little in a previous beta, but the one that still really stands out is the unlock one. It's currently way too slow, and to make matters worse, you can't interact with anything on the home screen until it's finished (which is the main issue), unlike with iOS 6.

Actually Apple fixed this in beta 5 I think. You can now tap an icon during the unlock animation.
 
Actually Apple fixed this in beta 5 I think. You can now tap an icon during the unlock animation.

Yes, you can, but you can't swipe to the next page during the unlock animation. You also can't bring up the Notification Center or the Control Center until the animation is finished. I hope they'll have that corrected in the GM.
 
Yes, you can, but you can't swipe to the next page during the unlock animation. You also can't bring up the Notification Center or the Control Center until the animation is finished. I hope they'll have that corrected in the GM.

But you can access them both from the lock screen.
 
I really hope the speed isn't an issue on the iPhone 5. I know it's about to be an "old" phone after the 5S is launched, but iOS 6 ran well on the 4S, and we can't upgrade to the 5S like we used to be able to every year since Verizon and AT&T took that away...

iOS 7 ran like a bad of dicks on my iPad 2, whereas iOS 6 runs perfectly fine. I am worried I won't be able to upgrade, and since Apple still sells the iPad 2, I do hope they make it useable on iOS 7.


Have you seen iOS 5 on the original iPad? It isn't pretty. I doubt Apple is going to spend considerable time working on optimizing the os for a product that they'll soon be getting rid of. Just everyone be happy they axed the iPod touch 4G before iOS 7 was announced, that would've been a true nightmare.
 
Actually Apple fixed this in beta 5 I think. You can now tap an icon during the unlock animation.
They're still unbelievably slow.

When I unlock I can tap an icon, but it won't open til the rest of the icons fall on the screen.
 
I thought the look was great when I first saw it.

Now, I think it just seems messy and unrefined.

Little things like buttons replaced by text (which are sometimes too long and so are cut off when it approaches the next element. Also prevalent on the status bar for someone with a long carrier name)

Also, the fact that sometimes text on certain backgrounds arent readable....that problem was identified and fixed in the last theme by the use of drop shadows. And the drop shadows themselves were perfected.

Another thing that bugged me is the fact that it's inconsistent. Some elements have borders (number buttons on the phone app)...then how come all the other buttons dont have borders??? and they seemed to try having rounded elements throughout the OS. The signal bar is now round. Yet the only other place where I see this design language is the phone app, nowhere else! why are the icons in the share menu still square? the icons in control center?

Speaking of the share menu, half of the icons are monochromatic, the rest are full color....why?

And the icons,although minimalist, and supposedly in trend, I cant help but think that I could do that myself...ios 6's icons?? no I can tell someone poured hours upon hours, days upon days on them.

iOS 6's design was solid, iOS 7's seems fleeting and unrefined.
 
I'm very content with it, would like to see the thinner font come back, other than that, it's a done deal, no looking back for me.
 
The speed is due to three reasons

1. The dev debugger always running in the background
2. You have an old phone
3. It's a beta, it's not meant to be super fluid

This has been reiterated to death. They will continue to ignore these points and say it's too slow.
 
airdrop
control center
itunes radio

improvements to the following which effect my every day life (emphasis, I use every single one of these features every single day):

photo stream - a new feed to show me everything that's happening, shared albums, ability to post videos

maps: better layout and design, better searching, better siri voice - i now use it over google maps (waze still takes the cake sometimes)

safari: unified search/navigation bar, being able to turn private browsing on and off from within the app, gesture based navigation, full screen browsing

notification center: i use the "missed" column more often than the other tabs. it's more useful to me.

app store: automatic updates

mail: customizable folders on start screen

messages: ability to view timestamps of individual messages

every one of the features above make my daily experience with the phone better.

i'm tired of people saying there's nothing new in iOS 7.

Compatibility with gaming controllers by itself makes the upgrade worth it. Will purchase the first decent iOS 7 controller that hits the market.
 
I liked ios 7 from day one. But that simply couldve been because ios 6 had grown stale on me.

I am not overly impressed by ios 7. It seems to me that apple was playing the catching up game when implementing features.
 
After 3 months I can say I really like the new functionality and most of all the little things added (felt strange using my sons iOS 6 the other day), but I really don't the overall look at all. Pretty much taking the good with the bad. It works great but looks bad. Maybe a JB will come out and I can tone it down a little.
 
After 3 months I can say I really like the new functionality and most of all the little things added (felt strange using my sons iOS 6 the other day), but I really don't the overall look at all. Pretty much taking the good with the bad. It works great but looks bad. Maybe a JB will come out and I can tone it down a little.

This is where I am too. I never cared for the look of iOS 7. But after two months I have grown too used to the new features on my iPhone to go back. In fact I tried downgrading to iOS 6 a few weeks ago and was back again within a day. Guess I'll have to learn to like the new look. The new features are simply too nice to live without :-/

Now, on the iPad I think it's a different story. iOS 7 doesn't really bring much new to the table here. Yeah Control Center is nice, but most of that functionality was already present in the iPad multitasking dock. Most everything else is just a blown up version of the iPhone os and is a real step backward in some areas. Also, it doesn't look great on the non-retina screen of my iPad mini. I downgraded my mini back to iOS 6 after a month and a half on iOS 7 and couldn't be happier. Apple has a lot of work to do over the next six weeks to get iOS 7 up to snuff on the iPad by their October event.
 
Sorry if this is a silly question, but what's the point of a debugger running in the background?

Idk I'm not a dev but I think it's something that reports bugs directly to apple so that they can patch them
 
I liked ios 7 from day one. But that simply couldve been because ios 6 had grown stale on me.

I am not overly impressed by ios 7. It seems to me that apple was playing the catching up game when implementing features.

And removing features... :(

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And removing features... :(

(Facebook/Twitter post from NC and Search Web from Spotlight)

I can see why people might miss those. Seems Apple really wants people to use Siri more. I personally do, but it can be really frustrating from time to time. Hopefully major improvements are coming.
 
no, it's does look lot better than the iOS6, but, at the same time, the white theme makes it look boring after some time, but that doesn't mean that i'd like to go back to iOS6. iOS7 is much better.
 
The speed is due to three reasons
...
1. The dev debugger always running in the background
2. You have an old phone
3. It's a beta, it's not meant to be super fluid

3. Why not?

The code should be tested pretty well in-house before being released to outside developers. This avoids unnecessary trouble all around.

Giving it to outside developers is only supposed to shake out any remaining bugs, and the best way to do that is to run as close to normally as possible.

Sorry if this is a silly question, but what's the point of a debugger running in the background?

Not a silly question.

There is no "debugger running in the background". That rumor started from a suggestion that perhaps any slowness was due to extra debug statements and logging (i.e. writes to storage). However, nobody has come up with any evidence that Apple left in such code.

Moreover, any extra debugging should be turned off this close to a general public release (unless there's some mysterious bug that's driving them crazy). See comment above about running normally.
 
There is no "debugger running in the background". That rumor started from a suggestion that perhaps any slowness was due to extra debug statements and logging (i.e. writes to storage). However, nobody has come up with any evidence that Apple left in such code.

Moreover, any extra debugging should be turned off this close to a general public release (unless there's some mysterious bug that's driving them crazy). See comment above about running normally.

While there may or may not be evidence, when I developed code and many others I know used multiple levels of debugging diagnostics. I shut down levels from my own testing, to alpha to beta to GA - where it was all off.

I say there may or may not be evidence because I have no knowledge of what Apple does, but most modern app development has ways to send user agnostic telemetry back to the developers and analytics people to help stabilize things -- and a beta is the perfect place and telemetry the perfect way to iron things out for a GA.
 
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