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Come on, we need some more arguing. This is an entertaining thread and I need something to keep me up while I'm waiting for a database upgrade to complete.

This is like reading the Star Wars vs. Lord of the Rings arguments 10 years ago.
 
To be fair, he was loading Engadget, which is getting slammed. It's not particularly fast even on my desktop, and I'm using Chrome on an i7.

Come on now, you know that's rarely the goal around here. ;)
 
All this talk of 4g capability being a real advantage for the xoom.
By the time LTE is really rolled out, let alone remotely affordable, both the current xoom and iPad 2 will be old news, out of date.

On a note of personal preference, the latest version of 3G is already fast enough for anything I do on the go. I honestly don't understand this hunger for even faster mobile networks. :p

That's my two cents, have at it forum friends!
 
so i found this review of the xoom and thought i'd share. check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eeQZCMnHrc

that's a very good review from that user and he remains unbiased during the whole review process.

personally, i think honeycomb destroys iOS in both their current states. all this talk about iOS 5, 6, 7....sure, but by the time that comes out, you will see honeycomb 4.0, 5.0, 6.0 as well.

all we can do is compare actual facts and what is out now. as of today, honeycomb is better than iOS and the hardware for the xoom is better than the ipad2.

period. deal with it.
 
all we can do is compare actual facts and what is out now. as of today, honeycomb is better than iOS and the hardware for the xoom is better than the ipad2.

period. deal with it.

Both of those points are subjective based on what your priorities and that's a fact.

I personally like some things in HC, but not everything.

As far as hardware, no one knows which performs better until barefeats or anandtech get their hands on one. The Xoom may have more RAM, but that might be more of a necessity for HC. Its entirely possible that iOS just doesn't need as much to be equally smooth. The Xoom might have a higher res screen, but the screen quality isn't as good. You can match some of the Xoom's ports with an adapter which is annoying but not a deal killer.

One thing I don't like about the Xoom is that you can't charge via the USB connection. You need two cables to charge and transfer data.

So again, which is better from a hardware pov is subjective and considering they are very similar spec wise it really comes down to which OS you prefer/are willing to put up with.
 
I'm unable to do the statistical compairison right now, but those of you who are far more knowledgable and have the time, would you list a side-by-side spec compairison of the the 3 tablets?

Just from what I've been hearing, it sounds like the iPad 2 really didn't go up much from the iPad 1 and falls WAY short of the Honeycomb tablets out there now.

cpu?
ram?
hard drive?
gfx?
stereo sound?
camera MP?
screen res?
ports?
anything else of importance spec wise?


XOOM is cr.p, I return it after week of trying. Worse part is screen to me, response on fingers are slow, aps are all with bugs, no neflix and video for skype, tons of missing options they promise first day. iPad rules as ussually :)
 
that's a very good review from that user and he remains unbiased during the whole review process.
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as of today, honeycomb is better than iOS and the hardware for the xoom is better than the ipad2.

period. deal with it.

Objective, like your unfound assertion Tegra2 is faster than the A5? Like how by most people's criteria the new iPad is a better built and more attractive device than any of the upcoming Android tablets? Like how the LCD display is better on the iPad than the Xoom by objective criteria like saturation and contrast?

I know it's painful for you to admit it, but sometimes, Apple does put some of best hardware components available into their products, yes even better than what mighty Motorola can get from suppliers.
 
ipad 2 vs xoom

I am a current user of the iphone4 and have been using iphones for a few years. I am thinking of getting the ipad 2 but want to compare with the xoom. I am not that familiar with android and the android apps, so I thought I would get some input since I know some people on this site will use apple products as well as android based products and apps. So a few things I wouldnt mind knowing.

1. I dont have a lot of apps but, would i be better with the ipad 2 so that itunes can manage my phone and tablet apps together.

2. Would the ipad 2 and iphone 4 work together in any meaningful way that would steer me to the ipad 2 over the xoom?

3. How are the apps on android? and how is the software quality of android in general?


Any other insight (from people with experience in both venues) between the two operating systems, and or, hardware?
 
Yes if both the iPhone and the iPad carry the same iTunes account, you can share the apps between them, especially the universal ones.

If you're really interested in Honeycomb but willing to wait, I'd recommend you to wait and see what Samsung and LG bring out as well as the Xoom wifi version. I think the Xoom is a bit too raw and overpriced right now.
 
I switched from the 3GS to Droid X last summer. Bought an iPad launch day and sold it last fall because I was offered what I paid. It's pretty much a bitch to deal with music on both systems. There are programs that will convert from iTunes to allow drag and drop on Android, but it's a hassle. As for apps, if it's on iTunes, it's probably on Android as well. Good apps are just as reliable on both systems.

Personally, if I were intending to keep an iPhone and share a tablet, I'd stick with an iPad. However, now that I store my music off iTunes and can drag and drop, I'm looking forward to the Galaxy Tab Wifi version. As for the Xoom, Honeycomb is a little new and it's just too expensive.
 
The popular complaints about the iPad are all over the forum: closed system, not a "true" computing experience, no Flash, connectivity is restricted. If those are deal-breakers for you then look elsewhere.
 
The hardware is similar enough... it all comes down to what OS you want, and what your needs are.
 
that's a very good review from that user and he remains unbiased during the whole review process.

personally, i think honeycomb destroys iOS in both their current states. all this talk about iOS 5, 6, 7....sure, but by the time that comes out, you will see honeycomb 4.0, 5.0, 6.0 as well.

all we can do is compare actual facts and what is out now. as of today, honeycomb is better than iOS and the hardware for the xoom is better than the ipad2.

period. deal with it.

Honeycomb is really nice. If that was the os android had for tablets last year to begin with I would probably never have bought an ipad. However, I did get an ipad, and i just dont see myself going to another os because of all the apps i've purchased for the ios. But you are right about honeycomb, its a great os.
 
You are a bad "fixer" :) With half the RAM, most likely sub-par GPU performance (not NVIDIA design), sub-par screen and camera resolutions, phone-optimized OS, no 4G how come iPad 2 is equal to XOOM?

Funny, all of the Xoom reviews I have read state that the iPad screen is better. You can get an iPad for $349. With a better screen. You don't have 4G on the Xoom either. iPad 2 subpar GPU performance ? Please explain.

i fail to see what's so funny. Honeycomb just came out....see what the numbers are after a year, just like the iPad had the same situation and developed more apps over year's time.

Didn't the iPad have a thousand or so apps when it was released ?

Ya don't believe everything Steve says. He also said the new ipad is the first dual core tablet in mass production which is just not true. I think Steve is getting a little senile.

And the first dual core tablet in mass production would be ? (Remember mass production means large numbers, how many Xooms have rolled off the assembly lines. How many iPad 2s do you think Apple has had made ?) Yea, I think he maybe correct. Not the first one out, but the first to be mass produced.
 
iPad 2 subpar GPU performance ? Please explain.

That's the kind of online pseudo geek-ism found every day. At least I know many Apple fans admit they aren't very knowledgeable in tech stuff. But these, the self-professed geeks who scoff at the Apple fanboys for being tech illiterate, claim stuff like "nVidia = l33t graphics" while not even looking what GPU the iPad 2 uses. It's just mind boggling. Just looking at this thread, we have people who automatically assume Tegra2 beats the A5 SoC in performance because...errr... the Tegra2 is made by nVidia and we know whatever chip Apple uses has to be inferior since Apple is always behind in specs. (I even see people claiming the A5 is just a rebadged Samsung Exynos, urg)
 
And the first dual core tablet in mass production would be ? (Remember mass production means large numbers, how many Xooms have rolled off the assembly lines. How many iPad 2s do you think Apple has had made ?) Yea, I think he maybe correct. Not the first one out, but the first to be mass produced.

It was "ship in volume" not "mass production" and honestly that's marketing BS. Who cares if there were fewer Xoom's shipped, the iPad is not the first dual core tablet. And technically no iPad 2's have shipped to the consumer or stores so it isn't the first to ship in volume, there were more Xooms in a warehouse before there were iPad 2's in warehouses.
 
It was "ship in volume" not "mass production" and honestly that's marketing BS. Who cares if there were fewer Xoom's shipped, the iPad is not the first dual core tablet. And technically no iPad 2's have shipped to the consumer or stores so it isn't the first to ship in volume, there were more Xooms in a warehouse before there were iPad 2's in warehouses.

Who gives a ****? I'm not buying a Xoom because it was the first tablet with a dual core CPU by a whole month.

And to whoever said that iOS 5 is irrelevant because Honeycomb 4.0 will be right around the corner...honeycomb 4.0 is coming out within 3 months? Wow!!
 
Availability is rather more important than comparisons.
When will the Xoom be available in the majority of Countries outside the US?

iPad 2 ~ US 11th March'11 and New Zealand / Australia plus a multitude of other Countries 25th March'11.

Yes I have checked Motos US Xoom site but there is no mention at all of a Xoom on their New Zealand site.
To all intents and purposes it does not exist.

:apple: iPad :apple:
 
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The reason why motorola messed up on the pricing is that now everyone thinks they will be paying at least 800 for a tablet. While an iPad 2 can also cost that much, people will walk in to Apple because they know that the cheapest iPad is 499 and they can walk out paying just that, although most people will end up paying more because of upselling from the salespeople. But the fact is, I'm not even going to think about Xoom because it just sounds expensive. While I'll def think about the iPad 2 because of the 499 pricing, altho when I actually do go in i probably will buy the 32gb version which is more.

Kinda like how you go to Honda to buy that 17k Accord, but end up with a 28k fully loaded v6 accord.

You speak the truth. But Apple has always done that. While the cheap Mini actually sells well, it's main function is to get price conscious people into the store.

That said, I just bought one of the heavily discounted iPad 1. I figure there will be at least an iPad 2.5 (September 2011??) and iPad 3 (September 2012??) before I need to upgrade. This gets me into the game for really cheap ($419 here in Canada - I think $399 in the US).

I know I'm going to want an upgraded version sooner or later. This way I've saved some money while I wait for the product to mature.
 
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