Only way I see a price jump is if the base storage of the iPad 11 gets doubled to 128GB. That's a big IF. The iPad mini didn't increase in price even though it got upgraded to A17 Pro and 128GB base storage.
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The mini already had a higher price point ( and likely higher margins). There are not sales for the new Mini's at sub $300 prices. Apple's OCD likely will tag the 10th at $329 and the 11th at some higher. Apple 'needs' a sub $300 iPad but they don't want to list price one at that price.
The Mini is a bind squeezed between the entry iPad segment and the iPad Air. Apple is likely also going to squat on the Mnii for an extended period of time.
The 11th at 128GB isn't all that unlikely. The mini and the 11th would be using a higher overlap of the same parts which will help offset the increases that both got. (economies of scale). [ The relatively (for iPad history) LLM model that is pushing 8GB of RAM has to be stored locally persistenly. Bigger footprint on storage and RAM. ] . Futhemore the A17 Pro iPhone 15 started at 128GB. Why the iPad wouldn't go to 128GB min would be odd ( not "a big IF").
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I also see a lot of other countries' pricing going up with iPad 11, not because of the feature upgrades, but because of the exchange rate. The US dollar is on a tear right now.
Doesn't make sense. The dollar foriegn exchange going higher will put even higher competitive pressure on the 11th if its price goes up. ( Meaning they would have an even bigger need to keep the 10th gen around so that had a more affordable iPad outside of the USA. ). Cranking the base price higher only exacerbates the problem.
I doubt Apple pictures it as 'higher' as opposed to going back to the anchor price they established with the 10th when it came out. ( which was higher than the 9th , 8th, etc. ), but it is price gap the lower tier product thing.
AI - sizzle isn't necesarily going to be a barn burner boost to sales.
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P.S. same issue for SE3 ... can't prematurely drop it (even if banned in EU). And SE4 roll out to countries with really bad exchange rate problems could go slower. ( it SE4 base pricing going substantively higher is a problem ).
Yes. I think they will keep the 10 around for the budget model, and they will set the US price of the 11 to the pricing of the 10 when it was first introduced, or at least higher than the 10 is now.
However, I also think they could increase pricing of the 11 outside the US in terms of their native currencies, because those currencies are now worth less against the US dollar. Pricing of Apple products sometimes fluctuate outside the US due to currency changes. They are less fixed than they are in the US. Note also though that the base pricing of the entry level models also sometimes fluctuate a bit outside the US, depending upon the severity of the currency exchange fluctuations. IOW, there is no guarantee they will price the new "budget" iPad 10 at the same level as the 9 was, especially outside the US.
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i think it is a dud. My go to is ChatGPT or Grok and I still have yet to find one thing about Apple Intelligence even remotely useful.
Completely ignores that the fact that the iPad 10 was a complete redesign when compared to the iPad 9.
This new iPad 11 is going to be identical to the iPad 10 in every way but the chip and Ram, I would argue there is no chance of the 10 sticking around at all officially from Apple outside of refurbished.
Assuming they did what you’re suggesting, there would be… checks notes… four different 11 inch iPads, three of which are only differentiated mostly by the processor.
Also ignores the fact that I pointed out in my original post, which is that the A14 in the iPad 10 is already going on five years old.
I don’t think it’ll be losing software support anytime soon, but I also think the chip is so old at this point that Apple wouldn’t keep it around simply due to manufacturing ramping down. The A14 was based off of the very first generation 5NM process, given we’re almost on the *third* generation of 3NM, that chip from five years ago was starting to get long in the tooth.
The fact that any M4 device comes with <16GB RAM is odd considering MacBooks Pro and Mac mini M4 specs and pricing.
Especially M4 Mac mini makes M4 iPads Pro seem like bad value/$.
M2 and M3 MacBooks Air specs and pricing also seem better value despite lacking M4.
iPads Pro would need a spec bump soon after iPads 11 launch.
On the other hand, 128 GB even at the same starting price can probably be justified by the fact that even the completely unfinished Apple Intelligence that exists today can take up anywhere from 2.5 to over 8 GB of storage space, even though it appears to only use that much temporarily.
And we don’t even have the features that will more than likely take up the most storage, like personal context, on screen awareness, and the new rumored LLM Siri.
That could eventually become an extra 12+ GB download, and with a fresh install of modern iPadOS already usually using about 16 GB, I feel like doubling the storage is basically a must.
8GB RAM & A17 (pro) tempting rumor. This is what one is indeed expecting - base iPad having 2 years old chip. Lets see the price.
Looking forward to it as I again skipped the new mini and still use mini 5. Really thinking about second iPad and I refuse to spend money on mini 7 since the mini 7 looks to me to be good upgrade from mini 5, just there should have been A18 chip.
Looking forward to it as I again skipped the new mini and still use mini 5. Really thinking about second iPad and I refuse to spend money on mini 7 since the mini 7 looks to me to be good upgrade from mini 5, just there should have been A18 chip.
I don’t see a price for increase for iPad 11 even if all specs basically double from 64/4 to 128/8:
There’s been no increases in US pricing for really any of the other Apple products that got the “AI spec bump” from Apple.
Apple knows Apple Intelligence is nowhere near good enough to warrant an upgrade.
-This is what they’re offering as a consolation prize for upgrading to an AI ready Apple product despite the AI being MIA right now.
The 128/8 at $349 is not that impressive if you think about how long Apple has kept the low-end iPad at 64/4 and lower.
We probably still won’t get any support for newer Apple Pencils or à better display. So it’s still going to be a lot lower value than M2 air or latest iPad mini.
Let’s get real:
128/8 at $349 is mostly impressive because the 256/8 we get in the iPads Pro M4 is too low for a $999+ M4 Apple device.
All M4 iPads Pro should have been 16GB RAM.
128/8 at $349 is mostly impressive because the 256/8 we get in the iPads Pro M4 is too low for a $999+ M4 Apple device.
All M4 iPads Pro should have been 16GB RAM.
Also planning M4 Air, have you decided about the RAM/SSD already. I have read the thread “rocking on M1” and out of the comments fewer users are complaining about RAM than storage, M1 PRO (which is not Air) seem extremely happy. Personally 16/512 and not more.I don't give a chit about Apple Intelligence, but as long as I get that increased base RAM that comes with it, it's fine with me if people want to talk about it.
I got a 24 GB M4 Mac mini for a decent price, and I will be buying an 6-8 GB A17 Pro iPad 11 and 16 GB M4 MacBook Air this year hopefully. I'm just sad that the M4 iPad Pro didn't get the same treatment, with my pricey base model only coming with 8 GB RAM.
EDIT: I might end up with M3 and for same money boost M3 Air specs.
Probably 16/256 but possibly 16/512. This will only see very light usage and not much local storage. This is for my wife and she currently has about half of her 256 GB drive empty, on her 2017 MacBook Air.
Although I applaud any movement Apple makes, I beg to guestion why they haven’t released it together with the iPad mini. It’s just a chip swap. Nothing worthy for a big press release.
Apple seems to smear every little update throughout the year. When you peel it off what exactly is new, it’s the bare minimum.
Why Apple upgrade all their iPads together, MacBooks and Mac’s? Cause they’re just chip swaps and they’re not selling by the droves.
Apple seems to smear every little update throughout the year. When you peel it off what exactly is new, it’s the bare minimum.
Why Apple upgrade all their iPads together, MacBooks and Mac’s? Cause they’re just chip swaps and they’re not selling by the droves.
Good to know about the storage, thanks. Also same use case with me, for my wife. She want 13.6 inch.
For backup with Time Machine I am considering usb-c flash disk and will probably end with cheap spinning drive after seeing the flashdisk price.
Cheers
Currently the mini starts at 499, the ipad at 349. Although they are not the same product like the 11 and 13 inch ipad air, they are rather comparable. If the ipad gets the same chip and memory, the only difference will be the screen quality. Considering that in every product category, Apple charges more for the larger models (sometimes going against the whole market, as with macbooks), I'm afraid we'll see a relatively massive price increase with the next ipad.
In Canada the pad 10 is $449. I suspect the 11 will hold the price or maybe see a modest increase, not more than $499.
best thing about apple intelligence is certainly consistant ram options on all future models.
Makes sense for apple to quickly refresh the whole lineup to be 100% apple intelligence compatible.
Even the SE4 will have to support the feature, or I'm afraid apple'd get quite the bad press...
Even the SE4 will have to support the feature, or I'm afraid apple'd get quite the bad press...