Ipad 2 = No home button?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Messy, Jan 16, 2011.

  1. Messy macrumors 6502

    Sep 5, 2010
    Morning chaps,

    Only reason i ask, we have the new iOS beta at work (We write software, including iPhone/iPad apps etc).

    It has the same swipe gestures as the MBP's etc, ie 4 fingers swipe up and it minimises everything on screen, there fingers swipe to go between apps etc.

    Will it have no home button then? As from what i can see from the beta, you can do almost everything without it.
  2. spammerhamster macrumors 6502

    Feb 5, 2010
    can you do DFU mode without it? or a hard reset?
  3. NewGenAdam macrumors 6502

    Jun 29, 2008
    Apparently Jobs didn't want a home button on the original iPhone so I think it's possible that the new iPad will come without one. But I think this would be a shame; the home button is an important root helping new users understand and use the device without being confused. It's a sort of escape rope; a get me out and take me home.

    I can't imagine the iPhone's home button being replaced with 4 finger gestures on the basis that its screen is too small. But, Apple is creative, so I wouldn't be surprised if they come up with an alternative to the button. I just hope it's as simple and elegant.

    I think it's most likely that the next generations will include a button and the 4 finger gestures. I wonder if Apple will soon use some of its interface patents (camera motion sensing, interactive cases...) on new iOS devices.
  4. chiefroastbeef macrumors 6502a

    May 26, 2008
    Dallas, Texas/ Hong Kong
    The home button has been on many iProducts for many years, it is gonna look weird for a while without it... Like a person whose missing s nose..
  5. colmaclean macrumors 68000


    Jan 6, 2004
    If there's no Home button, won't the iPad use up more energy in standby as the touchscreen will have to remain active in order to detect input?
  6. Kyotoma macrumors 68000


    Nov 11, 2010
    Carnegie and Ontario
    There's a sleep/wake button for that.
  7. MRU Suspended


    Aug 23, 2005
    Of all the rumors and conjecture, the missing home button is the one I least find convincing.

    The home button acts as a point of reference for people first using the device.

    Add restore/dfu and hard reset functionality, I doubt it's going anywhere.

    It's an iconic feature of IOS device and almost as much an apple branding feature as the logo on the back.
  8. Syk macrumors 6502a

    Jun 20, 2010
    Same way it is on other devices, use the power button/vol combo to put it in DFU mode.

    I would be surprised to see this Gen without one but Gen3 it could be gone.
  9. colmaclean macrumors 68000


    Jan 6, 2004

    Good point! Never used it for wake, what's the point when there's a Home button? ;)
  10. cRuNcHiE macrumors 6502a

    Jan 2, 2007
    While I like the gestures alot, I think removing the home button would be a mistake as it would make the iPad less child friendly.

    My 2yr old loves playing with the educational apps on my iPad and has no problem using the home button to exit and load another app .

    I'm pretty sure she wouldn't grasp using gestures to get 'home' and would more than likely accidentally trigger them causing frustration.

    Sure the iPad isn't aimed at kids, but I'm not the only person who's child loves it!
  11. thesmoth macrumors 6502

    Oct 7, 2008
    No home button = smaller bezel and smaller case with the same size screen = lighter and more portable = win.
  12. wikoogle macrumors 6502a


    Jun 12, 2009
    This. Plus, the home button looks ugly and tacky on the iPad. It makes it look like a giant stretched out iPhone rather than a Tablet.

    Look at the Motorola Xoom. It has no home button. Almost all of the tablets for Andriod Honeycomb (the OS they've built centered around Andriod tablets) will not have a home button.

    iPad users aren't any stupider than Andriod users, if Andriod users can get along just fine without any physical buttons on their tablets, then so can iPad users.
  13. j3yq macrumors 6502


    Dec 16, 2007
    Its going to turn into the touch sensor like the new xbox's.
  14. sootie macrumors member

    Jun 17, 2009
    if apple were to remove the home button, they could potentially add its functionality to the sleep/wake button i.e holding the button for 2 seconds would sleep the device and a quick press would return the device to the home screen. The only problem would be bringing up the multitask tray. They could make it so a four finger swipe upward could bring it up but apple is really strict about making big changes to OS functionality because they feel it could potentially confuse users but then again you never know with apple:rolleyes:
  15. Apple... macrumors 68020


    May 6, 2010
    The United States
    + 1. Why would Apple remove it? Even John Gruber disagrees.
  16. Piggie macrumors G3


    Feb 23, 2010
    Go away and cut holes in 20 million sheets of glass, and you may work out the answer :D
  17. lsd macrumors newbie

    May 7, 2009
  18. darngooddesign macrumors G3

    Jul 4, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Smaller bezel = harder to hold without registering inputs = fail.
  19. rikbrown macrumors regular

    Jun 29, 2010
    That's the point of this thread. Apple have added just that to the betas of 4.3.
  20. Acorn macrumors 68020


    Jan 2, 2009
    my mothers main reason for owning the device is that stupid home button. with regular computers she gets confused and lost. shes always afraid she is going to do something wrong or screw it up. with the apple device she knows no matter what happens or how lost she is she can just hit the home and get out of it. she uses it more then a computer now because its so easy for her to reset. I think it would be a massive mistake removing it.
  21. LeighAnna Jones macrumors 6502

    Oct 7, 2010
    If they take off the home button I'm gonna be PO'd. Life without a home button is... meaningless. LOL. Kidding. but it does help alot and I don't like swiping to trigger actions.
  22. jazziethomas macrumors member

    Dec 5, 2010
    I agree the home button besides of the apple logo is one of the apple's trademark to their products. Bu who knows maybe Steve is up to something :confused:
  23. lsd macrumors newbie

    May 7, 2009
    Has anyone played with gestures on their iPad? The pinch to home screen is pretty convenient.
  24. 4DThinker macrumors 68020

    Mar 15, 2008
    I'll bet anyone that future iPads don't have a hard Home button. Why? As said before that hole in the glass is expensive, and a hard home button never rotates with the UI. In Android 3.0 and later, The Home/Back/etc buttons are always on the bottom left no matter which way you've oriented the screen. 1/2 the time with my iPad2 I'm reaching rudely across the glass to hit Home.

    Also consider how well the magnetic covers work to turn on the screen. Then throw in that there could be several other actions the iPad senses to turn it on as well. Who needs the old Home button, really?
  25. .Andy macrumors 68030


    Jul 18, 2004
    The Mergui Archipelago
    I just use my other hand.

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