I'm convinced iPad 3 will be quadcore. But, in A9 core. That way, iPad 4 will use A15 with bigger leap in performance as some people suspect this alternating release similar to iPhone.
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iPad 3 with LTE, Quad-Core Processor and Retina Display Set for March Launch
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The original commentor to whom I was responding was not addressing that. He was only saying that you can't tell the difference of about a millimeter. Time was definitely not a part of his comment.
But you really can. You don't even need to hold the units at the same time. Pick one up, hold it, put it down, pick up the other one and hold it. You can tell.
Whether or not a given individual will get used to a particular thickness device is a totally separate discussion, but the original commentor did not direct attention to that train of thought. But there's really little to discuss about this latter issue. Some people will get used to it (and keep the new device), some won't (they'll return it, or keep it and just spend the rest of their lives complaining).
It's like any time you replace one thing with another, whether it be a hamburger, a beer, a pet, and automobile. Sure, there are differences between what you have now in your hands and what you used to have, and probably what you will have on another day. Is what you have in your hand good enough? It's up to the individual.
So saying that you can't tell the difference of 1mm thickness is wrong. Because we know that we will get people right here in this forum complaining about it. There will always be people griping, and we can count of many of them coming here to air their complaints, despite the fact that this site will not change the situation.
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This will be one of the best selling products of any kind, of all time, even when it doesn't ship with all the specs mentioned.
But, the already overworked factories in China...there are going to be problems, maybe the first strikes.
But, the already overworked factories in China...there are going to be problems, maybe the first strikes.
Hopefully they do. CES showed that the world won't wait to Apple if they don't join the party
Quad core?!?!??!??!!!!!!??????.....!!!!!!! That's insane.
Not very useful to have the fast processor, actually, until it becomes fast enough to work as a full PC. I guess you can play higher quality games. Wasn't it already dual-core, so how does adding another 2 cores help with app switching?
Not very useful to have the fast processor, actually, until it becomes fast enough to work as a full PC. I guess you can play higher quality games. Wasn't it already dual-core, so how does adding another 2 cores help with app switching?
Anyone else mildly concerned about the Foxconn workers having to work inhuman hours to produce this tablet? Foxconn does not have a stellar record on treating their workers decently. Suicide rates at their factory are abnormal.
I just listened to the Mike Daisey interview on This American Life last week on iPads and Foxconn. Disturbing.
I just listened to the Mike Daisey interview on This American Life last week on iPads and Foxconn. Disturbing.
There are plenty of Chinese factories that treat their employees like dirt. It's not anything I can change at the moment, being under 18.
But you're missing the point about cost. Of course 1GB chips are more expensive thank 512MB chips. But Apple always waits until the price of the bigger/faster/better chip drops just enough to fit into their existing price structure. That time is likely here. That's why pricing of Apple models tends to stay relatively stable over time (I.e. the low/mid/high end model pricing of a given device in a given year stays about the same; there are exceptions, but this is the general trend).
Re quad core you're missing the way Apple approaches marketing. They've not EVER yet made the processor a BIG part of marketing the iPad. Why would they start now? Apple has NEVER been about specs in its iDevice portfolio. They are about the overall user experience. If the quadcore chip fits into the existing low/mid/high model pricing structure, and provide an improved user experience, of course they will adopt it.
Re LTE, it's a simple function of whether or not integrated chips exist at a price, quantity and performance level (including battery drain) for the price structure discussed above. Many others throughout this thread have posted links to articles stating that such chips are due from the obvious sources in Q1 of this year.
Get ready for a significant price increase
Why? iDevice pricing has remained remarkably stable over the years. See above: Apple waits for the tech to "come to it" in terms of pricing, and in fact due to volume purchases has the ability to force the issue.
You're missing one important aspect, which is where that 1mm increase occurs. If it's literally throughout the entire device, then sure, you may be able to feel the difference (and I still only say 'may' because 1mm is extremely little - go check out a centimeter and divide it into tenths...) but if it only occurs in say the very center of the back, but the edges where you always hold the thing are the same as existing, then maybe you wouldn't ever notice it.
Now all we need is a flip keyboard that connects to it wirelessly on the Smart Cover and some (wireless?) connection to a Cinema Display. I'm sure this can also run Mac OS X if it was recompiled for these processors.
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Completely true. Apple is smart enough to know that processor speed and even 4G is not a big thing to care about. As it is, >50% of the iPhone users in a survey think the iPhone 4(s) has 4G
Meanwhile, Sprint was saying in their ad: "Download it faster than you can say 2.5GHz, which is super fast by the way!" That is the wavelength, not a data rate...
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Completely true. Apple is smart enough to know that processor speed and even 4G is not a big thing to care about. As it is, >50% of the iPhone users in a survey think the iPhone 4(s) has 4G
Meanwhile, Sprint was saying in their ad: "Download it faster than you can say 2.5GHz, which is super fast by the way!" That is the wavelength, not a data rate...
Wait for the iPad5
Rumors are great to get people to put off buying Apple products. As soon as the next iPad ships, rumors will start in the next one. It's so good to have paid bloggers generating rumors based on nothing and paid commentors trolling blog sites to make silly comments. I guess that is one thing SOPA will help curtail along with free speech in general.
Rumors are great to get people to put off buying Apple products. As soon as the next iPad ships, rumors will start in the next one. It's so good to have paid bloggers generating rumors based on nothing and paid commentors trolling blog sites to make silly comments. I guess that is one thing SOPA will help curtail along with free speech in general.
Some people?
Who is going to return an ipad 3 because it's 1mm thicker? Nobody, that's who!!
No one will advise you to wait for the iPad 4 if the iPad 3 has only been launched for five weeks. The advise of waiting is only given to those who are planning to buy a product almost a year after it received its last upgrade.
If anyone asks right now "buy an iPhone 4S or wait for iPhone 5?", than 9 out of 10 people will recommend to buy the iPhone 4S now. If this same question is asked in June, than the advise will most likely be something like "wait for WWDC, see if Apple announces the next-gen iPhone, if not, buy iPhone 4S because than it will be October". If this same question is asked in August or September, than 9 out of 10 people will recommend you to wait.
There have been plenty of times an Apple product was thicker than the outgoing product in the Steve Jobs era. It's happened with laptops and the iPhone 3G was thicker than the original iPhone.
You are thinking backwards. First it is computer and it already replaces tradidional computers. Second file management system is something simple users and simple tasks do not require.
If i can make procedure of opening files simpler without browsing tree of files then it's a step forward.
Indeed, the only reason Steve Jobs wanted all of his products thinner, is not because he just wanted to, but to push his engineers.
When the iPhone 3G was released, that was as thin as possible for the engineers to create.
I'm glad that I could spawn off your thoughts - although I didn't get an answer
Quad core? Maybe. Enhancements probably will include camera upgrades better phone connectivity Retinas? Maybe.
You only suspend RAM states when it is sleeping, not off. Furthermore, I think Microsoft is over-playing the importance of RAM amount in battery life. It's going to help by virtue of more efficient processing, but refresh cycles aren't that expensive. Too little RAM can also hurt you when you're purging data for space and having to constantly reload it to RAM (safari tabs for example).
Moreover, they could try something novel like only suspending to half the RAM and not refreshing the rest.
It depends on the workload, but the A15 would be faster in most situations. ARM has stated the cores are 40% faster clock for clock and they are triple issue instead of dual issue like the A9. Finally, they have a deeper pipeline, which means they can be clocked faster, albeit with flushes being more expensive.
Samsung's A15 SoC will go into production next quarter and we will likely see the galaxy s3 in q3.
A lot of desktop workloads aren't even parallel enough to fully use a quad core yet. The instances where a quad A9 will be faster than a dual A15 will be very limited.
Time to upgrade my iPad 1.
I hope it's available w/more memory, especially storage (128 gb).
I wonder when we will be able to pre-order.
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I hope it's available w/more memory, especially storage (128 gb).
I wonder when we will be able to pre-order.
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1mm thicker ain't no big deal...
I find it funny how some are complaining about a possible 1mm increase in thickness to accomidate the HD retina screen. LOL. Seriously? Thats like complaining on a friggin sub-atomic level! You won't even notice or be able to feel a difference holding the ipad 3. Have people run out of things to complain about? Cause this is ridiculous.
You do realize that a product can't continue to get thinner to infinity. Don't you? I mean, There comes a point when thin actually becomes TOO thin. Like when a super model is nothing but skin and bones and has to be hospitalized. It just doesn't become practical anymore. People who are obsessed with Apple products getting thinner have a form of mental sickness if you ask me.
Making the ipad 3 1mm thicker(if this rumor is even true) ain't no big deal. Especially if it makes room for a super cool HD retina display and faster chip. Any rational Apple fan will take those features over a 1mm increase in thickness.
I find it funny how some are complaining about a possible 1mm increase in thickness to accomidate the HD retina screen. LOL. Seriously? Thats like complaining on a friggin sub-atomic level! You won't even notice or be able to feel a difference holding the ipad 3. Have people run out of things to complain about? Cause this is ridiculous.
You do realize that a product can't continue to get thinner to infinity. Don't you? I mean, There comes a point when thin actually becomes TOO thin. Like when a super model is nothing but skin and bones and has to be hospitalized. It just doesn't become practical anymore. People who are obsessed with Apple products getting thinner have a form of mental sickness if you ask me.
Making the ipad 3 1mm thicker(if this rumor is even true) ain't no big deal. Especially if it makes room for a super cool HD retina display and faster chip. Any rational Apple fan will take those features over a 1mm increase in thickness.