iPad 5 or Surface Pro 2?

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  1. Squilly macrumors 68020

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    Yeah, I know the Surface Pro 2 is double the price but probably twice as versatile as the iPad. A full fledged Windows 8 OS could run on it while bugs are gone. I plan to use it for school and leisure, which I could do with both but maybe more-so on the Surface than the iPad. I've been thinking this over for weeks now and can't decide. iPad has more apps while Surface has every download you could think of that's on Windows 8...
     
  2. abz1981 macrumors 65816

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    Since your signature says: Soon-to-be iPad 5 ;

    I think you may have already made your decision. :D
     
  3. martinm0 macrumors 6502a

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    I'm kinda pumped for the Surface Pro 2 as well. The biggest downsides are cost and its still Windows. I really prefer OSX in general, but I'm finding myself constantly drawn back to the Surface products.

    Deep down I know they'll never offer apps/ecosystem that Apple has, but if I can figure out how to use it in my current quiver of tech, I might pick one (assuming they ever launch, lousy wait until mid-December for the 256/512 versions...)
     
  4. LostSoul80 macrumors 68020

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    SP2 for sure if you want a powerful kit to perform actual work.
     
  5. karlth macrumors regular

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    If you want to combine work and play then you really can't beat the new Windows 8.1 Tablets:

    For example this one. Full blown Windows 8.1 with USB,HDMI,SD, 64gb for $380.
     
  6. SilverOath macrumors member

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    They are not even remotely similar, besides that they're in a 'tablet' form factor.

    If you're using it for school, as in writing documents, spread sheets, power point, doing online homework (that often requires plug-ins unavailable for an iPad) then you'll want a full computer oporating system -- which of your options is the MS Surface Pro 2.

    If you're just browsing the internet, messaging, and 'light' note taking the iPad with a BlueTooth keyboard can suffice.

    The argument there are "more" apps is a bit nieve. It only matters how many apps you plan to use. The one you may use most may not even be available for iPad. Moreover, the Surface Pro is not designed to be an app platform, no matter how fervently MS tries to push it, which is why Surface RT has been a failure.

    The Surface Pro is not the 'traditional' tablets similar to your typical iPad or Android no matter how much MS tries to push it. The Surface Pro is a Windows machine in tablet form factor. Whether that suites you or not is something you'll have to figure out -- I personally loved it as a machine for using the stylus and taking notes via OneNote.

    However, outside of that I didn't find it very useful. It was noisy and extremely hot, and weighs considerably more than a 'true' iPad styled tablet -- so it was uncomfortable to carry, watching videos, using hand gestures, etc for long duration. Additionally, the lack of a self supported screen/keyboard made it awkward to use in truly mobile/non desk scenarios as you can't just prop it up in your lap with real stability, or screen angel control.

    The Surface Pro 2 should be a considerable improvement in increasing its performance to be a real 'desktop' replacement, in the sense that you don't really need a second machine for home / office for normal everyday tasks, thereby making it a better analogy to a laptop, but it's still a jack of all trades, and master at none (except stylus writing).
     
  7. firedept macrumors 603

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    I would look at the MacBook Air instead of SP2, especially if you like the OS X environment. For the money you would spend on SP2, the MBA just seems to make more sense.

    Then between iPad and MBA, if for school, again it would be MBA. The MBA for school would be more versatile. As well, you have access to all the apps.
     
  8. Giev macrumors member

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    +1

    A friend of mine tried a Surface dor some time, and got rid of it. He found the tablets to be too small to make any documents (especially excel)
     
  9. phrehdd macrumors 68040

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    Always hate that people are sad enough to PAY to be Micro$oft beta testers. Look at the debacle with Vista.

    There was previous to the iPad a company that was licensed by Apple to modify Apple laptops into touch screen tablets. The Keyboard was still present but if I recall, folded on to the back so you had a choice of just touch screen a la iPad or full on laptop with keyboard. The beauty of course is you had really a full blown laptop with touch screen ability when needed.

    As for me, I have zero use for a touch screen that is powerful beyond an iPad. I prefer a real keyboard and cursor device. Others may have needs that differ and in that want a more powerful touch screen type device. Let's see how Apple and Micro$oft battle it out and then laugh when Google beats them both or Samsung perhaps with a Linux based system.
     
  10. aloshka macrumors 65816

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    I'm kind of liking the idea of a backlit keyboard that is thinner than the current surface's keyboard. The problem, I think, is in the ecosystem. iPad has a ton of unlimited apps, but MS has very few. And the few they have aren't really high-quality. They do have outlook on 8.1 RT now (I know a lot of people hate it, but I love it more than Mac Mail as it has so much organization tools instead of just flagging and folders).

    Dying to see iPad 5. If all they did is change the size and add a finger print sensor, I'm thinking I might switch to surface rt.

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    I think it's safe to say that M$ should no longer have a dollar sign after it. It really should be A$$$$PLE now as Apple wins when it comes to revenue and making the right marketing decisions to make more $$$
     
  11. MacPC macrumors regular

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    Windows 8. YUCK! the ugliest UI I have ever seen. What the hell were the UI guys thinking? Get an iPad!
     
  12. RAPTORSKI macrumors regular

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    My iPad 2 does almost everything I want still but I might update to iPad 5 early next year if it has TOUCH ID. Haha it is a really cool feature I need to have (not in an iPhone)!!

    However that is where Windows 8 and Samsung Android tablets with features such as multiple apps on screen could convince me to stay away from an iPad. We will see!
     
  13. Squilly thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Look at iOS 7 and add it to the analogy to iOS 6. Some people hate it because they're redundant to change. Windows 7 to Windows 8 big difference was Metro and loss of the start button (brought back in 8.1). From the time I had my RT, I thoroughly enjoyed Metro and the features of Windows 8 on a tablet.
     
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    The unfortunate part is that apple products are actually good, and get good reviews.
     
  15. Squilly thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Microsoft was late to the party. They really do make solid tablets.
     
  16. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

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    Didn't you just sell a Surface? I would think that would be the reason why not to get another unless you were selling it to off set the price of a new Surface.

    But, since you sell iPads and/or iPhones to the Poles, I would stick with the iPad. You don't want to sell a product that you don't believe in, do you?
     
  17. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    I had the pleasure to use Windows 8 yesterday. I wouldn't use it for school and leisure. I would use it if I had done something awful and felt that I need punishment.

    Really, get an iPad if a tablet is capable enough for you, and get a MacBook Air if it's not. Surface Pro combines the worst of both worlds.
     
  18. Squilly thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Sold to offset cost of iPad or next Surface.
     
  19. CoMoMacUser macrumors 6502a

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    I love my iPad 1, but I just bought a Lenovo IdeaPad Lynx because I wasn't interested in spending several hundred dollars for a new tablet, whether it's an iPad 5 or a Surface 2. I paid $215 for the Lynx, which lists for $600, partly because it's a refurb.

    I have an iMac and an MBA, but my phone is Android. I use a lot of third-party cloud services (e.g., Dropbox) to sync bookmarks, content, contacts, etc. across iOS, OS X and Android, and it didn't seem as if would be too much trouble to extend those to Windows. I've had the Lynx only a few days, but so far, so good.
     
  20. adildacoolset macrumors 65816

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    They definitely should have acted fast. I think that Microsoft should not have expected the surface pro to have sold any better than the tablets before the iPad.

    It has no real fundamental change from those. It is still stupidly expensive, has a meh battery life, most of the apps aren't optimized for touch, has a fan in it, etc.

    It only works for a small group of people. But I don't really see why some people should be surprised that the surface isn't successful.
     
  21. tibas92013 macrumors 6502

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    Microsoft New

    In the year 2008 I bought a new Microsoft Zune MP3 player and you all know what happened to that(discontinued). This may very well happen with the SP2 and beyond if their problems keep mounting with this device.
     
  22. Squilly thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Which is why Metro was created...
     
  23. gpat macrumors 6502a

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    Get an Atom tablet for the money of an iPad or even less. Like the Asus T100.
     
  24. adildacoolset macrumors 65816

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    Do you seriously want to compare the number of classic windows programs to the metro-optimised ones? They probably have like a 10000:1 ratio!

    If you want something for school, as pointed out before, get a fully fledged laptop like an air. For a similar amount of money, you'll have more storage, a proper keyboard, more ports, and much, much more battery life. And you can chip in a bit more to get a nexus 7 tablet if you really want the touch UI and games.
     

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