Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
The price is quite interesting and confusing. Here in Spain, the base model iPad 10th is 579€ (If you are a student, then the price would be 539€). However, the official refurb base model of iPad Air 4th is 529€. As far as I know, they both get A14, the air 4th has a better display, better compatibility, etc.. yet at a lower price. So for me, if my budget is between 500€ and 600€, I would definitely pick up a refurb iPad Air 4th.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jovijoker
The price is quite interesting and confusing. Here in Spain, the base model iPad 10th is 579€ (If you are a student, then the price would be 539€). However, the official refurb base model of iPad Air 4th is 529€. As far as I know, they both get A14, the air 4th has a better display, better compatibility, etc.. yet at a lower price. So for me, if my budget is between 500€ and 600€, I would definitely pick up a refurb iPad Air 4th.

What is the refurb price for a 19th iPad? I suspect it will be lower than the Air as they become avaiable. I’m a big fan of refurbs since you get what is essentially a new device at a discount.
 
It just seemed like a tacky move to get rid of their 1st gen supply.
More likely it’s because they wanted to move the camera to landscape, but couldn’t do both that and support the Pencil 2 without a significant redesign, which they wouldn’t do for the “base” iPad. If the Pro and Air get landscape cameras, they could conceivably get a “Pencil 3” with a different placement of the magnetic charger.
 
Does the pencil really make a big difference???
Usability wise, not much. Ive used both 1st and 2nd gen pencils, currently on 2nd gen.
The only drawback that I see is pairing and charging 1st gen pencil. Now, imagine, they upgrade basic iPads charging/data port from Lightning to USB-C, yet keep the 1st gen pencil which can be paired and charged only by plugging it into iPad(OK, you can charge it straight from charger as well, but you get the point) and to do so you need additional ADAPTER for it to work which you have to PAY for extra.
So, its easy to lose 1st gen pencils cap, its also easy to lose charging/pairing adapter. When you buy 1st gen pencil you get one extra tip and also lightning-to-lightning(M/F) adapter for direct charging with charger, again, another piece of equipment to lose.

Not cool, IMHO.

As mentioned above, they probably cheaped out on clearing 1st gen pencil stocks/or sort of and also cheaped out on redesigning wireless charging location on an iPad to one of its sides, because its their "cheap" iPad and not a Pro model.
 
Usability wise, not much. Ive used both 1st and 2nd gen pencils, currently on 2nd gen.
The only drawback that I see is pairing and charging 1st gen pencil. Now, imagine, they upgrade basic iPads charging/data port from Lightning to USB-C, yet keep the 1st gen pencil which can be paired and charged only by plugging it into iPad(OK, you can charge it straight from charger as well, but you get the point) and to do so you need additional ADAPTER for it to work which you have to PAY for extra.
So, its easy to lose 1st gen pencils cap, its also easy to lose charging/pairing adapter. When you buy 1st gen pencil you get one extra tip and also lightning-to-lightning(M/F) adapter for direct charging with charger, again, another piece of equipment to lose.

Not cool, IMHO.

As mentioned above, they probably cheaped out on clearing 1st gen pencil stocks/or sort of and also cheaped out on redesigning wireless charging location on an iPad to one of its sides, because its their "cheap" iPad and not a Pro model.
The Apple Pencil 1 always struck me as an afterthought, with its goofy method of pairing and charging, plus the easy-to-lose cap and no flat edge or clip to prevent it from rolling off a desk.

It’s part of a larger issue I have with the accessory situation with iPads. While I have no issue with the “good, better, best” approach they have with the 11” models, the lack of coherency with accessories makes it difficult to “graduate” to a better model without buying new accessories. Take the Magic Keyboard Folio as another example. I get that Apple found the kickstand design useful (also seen in the Microsoft Surface and Logitech Combo/Folio Touch keyboard), but they should have designed it to be compatible with the iPad Air and Pro, as well. Had they added a ”lip” to the back cover, they conceivably could have kept the Smart Connector in the new “base” iPad in the same position it is in the Air and Pro (that’s how the detachable keyboard works in the Logitech Combo Touch - the keyboard attaches to a connector on the bottom edge of the back case). That way, they could have sold the Magic Keyboard Folio, Magic Keyboard, or Smart Keyboard Folio to anyone. Instead we are left with a situation where only the fairly pricey Magic Keyboard Folio is available for the “base” iPad, and that keyboard with its row of function keys works only with the base iPad and not the pricier models.
 
  • Like
Reactions: VaruLV
I just bought a 9th gen 256 for 399 at amazon. Upgrading from a 1st gen ipad pro. I don't use a pencil or a keyboard so I really don't care. I just need something that works better than what I have. I like the magnetic type of cover better than the others.
 
My iPad 4 still has about 7 hours of battery and works with YouTube and Netflix. Bit slow to go through menus and web surfing subject to constant tab reloads but given how little use it gets, I am still hesitant about forking out $$$ for a new one...
Same i have IPad air.
I was able to get it on sale ~393$ iPad 9th cellular.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.