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Yep, quite a few Apple store staff are like that. You go in and explain something to them that everyone is discussing and they act is if you don't know what you're talking about and shew you away. One female employee, after I told her about reports on MacRumors, told me not to believe everything you read on the internet especially from a site called Mac"Rumors". LOL I just wanted to slap her right there and then. :mad:

Why dont people understand Apple has standing instructions to all its Sales Staff, If a Customer walks in of having read anything on the Internet or if the problem is not visible and only relative which Apple has not officially acknowledged, Apple trains and advises its staff to not to entertain such questions and comments made by the customer and to just shoo it away ! There immediate reaction of any Apple Sales Staff will be what ? when ? where ? we dont see it ? This is how all Manufacturing Companies work !! :rolleyes: Atleast most of them !!
 
iPad Air 2 sound vibrating!

I put together a good demonstration of the problem. The Air 2 vibrations are strong enough to move small objects. The closer to the bottom the stronger the vibrations and the more things will move.

http://youtu.be/EgR2gns8C9Y
 
Yeah because we all put a tube of chap stick on and other objects on our screens.....NEXT


Of course we don't put things on the screen. It's just a demonstration of how much the screen actually vibrates. If it's strong enough to move something that weighs a few ounces, then it's something that you'll definitely feel.
 
I don't think the vibration will be fixed by Apple because it's by design - unfortunately.
Well, I assume the idea was to give the speakers more punch by using the body of the Air 2 as part of the Speakers itself.
If you look at the teardown pics provided by iFixit, you'll notice the Air 2 speakers have openings on both sides in contrast to the Air 1 speakers.

Air 1 speaker design: https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/EBchjuJ2KYYXCFkC

Air 2 speaker design: https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/EsY3FtKNMlHXREMk
 
I don't think the vibration will be fixed by Apple because it's by design - unfortunately.
Well, I assume the idea was to give the speakers more punch by using the body of the Air 2 as part of the Speakers itself.
If you look at the teardown pics provided by iFixit, you'll notice the Air 2 speakers have openings on both sides in contrast to the Air 1 speakers.

Air 1 speaker design: https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/EBchjuJ2KYYXCFkC

Air 2 speaker design: https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/EsY3FtKNMlHXREMk

Interesting. It does seem by design. That explains that when in landscape it almost sounds like stereo on one side.
 
Hey. I got an ipad air 2 and yes it vibrates but i noticed a cool thing. When i lay it flat on smart cover either on its back or on the screen on a wooden table it sounds awsome. The bass comes out it sounds great try it and reply if you notice the same plz.

Also what do you expect? I would of thought any tablet as thin as the ipad air 2 will vibrate?
 
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I think part of it is psychological. When I'm playing games I like that it vibrates. When Siri is responding to queries, not so much. Probably because the former seems normal, while the later seems strange.
 
I wish people would ignore the vibration for a moment and acknowledge how revolutionary these sound for tablet/mobile speakers. Blows my competitors and past models away in fullness and bass of the sound.
 
I wish people would ignore the vibration for a moment and acknowledge how revolutionary these sound for tablet/mobile speakers. Blows my competitors and past models away in fullness and bass of the sound.

This thread now has 887 replies. It's not likely to be ignored any time soon.

It doesn't matter how good the speakers may sound, the vibration of the entire chassis is a detriment to the "user experience" - something Apple used to devote an enormous amount of time and resources into getting right.

There was simply no reason to make the Air 2 thinner. The end result of thinness for the sake of thinness is a poor user experience. Period.
 
This thread now has 887 replies. It's not likely to be ignored any time soon.

It doesn't matter how good the speakers may sound, the vibration of the entire chassis is a detriment to the "user experience" - something Apple used to devote an enormous amount of time and resources into getting right.

There was simply no reason to make the Air 2 thinner. The end result of thinness for the sake of thinness is a poor user experience. Period.

You are operating under the assumption that thinness is what makes these speakers have noticeable vibration. But we know very well these are new and stronger speakers too. There's no indication that the vibration would have been much improved at the thickness of the Air 1.

And the thinness feels amazing.
 
I tried an Air 2 and I find the sound vibration is annoying to me whether it's an intentional or accidental design on Apple's part. Since I purchased it at BB during BF, I have up to Jan 15th to return it which i'll do.
 
I watched a movie in the Air 2 today for the first time and was blown away :eek:

The richness the bass. From such a thin device. Normally on my previous iPad if I wanted to watch a movie I'd use headphones, since the speakers were okay for games and YouTube. The Air 2, for me anyway won't requir headphones if I'm alone. :D
 
Hey. I got an ipad air 2 and yes it vibrates but i noticed a cool thing. When i lay it flat on smart cover either on its back or on the screen on a wooden table it sounds awsome. The bass comes out it sounds great try it and reply if you notice the same plz.

Also what do you expect? I would of thought any tablet as thin as the ipad air 2 will vibrate?

Having a Bose radio nearby, I rarely have occasion to listen to music on my iPad, but I tried this at full volume and the Air 2 does sound great. I usually keep the volume midrange otherwise and the vibration doesn't bother me.
 
iPad Air 2 sound vibrating!

I'm wondering if there are variations in how much it vibrates from device to device? For example I can start feeling vibrations for "bass" sounds at the lowest possible volume (one above mute) with my Air 2 in a case. I've seen others post that it doesn't vibrate till mid-volume (about 8) which is a huge difference. At 8, vibrations are quite strong on mine for low frequency sounds.

Are there really Air 2's out there that don't vibrate at all until mid-level volume?

On a somewhat related note, Amazon is running a sale of 70% off select Bluetooth speakers today.
 
I'd say feeling the strength of the vibrations is a subjective value. It's like talking about screen issues. Some people consider those as very important others barely notice them at all.
I've checked my sensitivity with the tone generator app you mentioned and like you I feel the vibration of the display clearly in the range between 100 Hz and 350 Hz at any volume level.
As long as Apple uses speakers in the Air 2 that fire outside and inside the case I'm pretty sure all devices perform alike.
 
I'd say feeling the strength of the vibrations is a subjective value. It's like talking about screen issues. Some people consider those as very important others barely notice them at all.


I wouldn't think either should be subjective. They are either there or they aren't. Whether it bothers someone would be subjective, but whether it happens or not would not be.

Actually the screen distortion issue is the reason I asked about the vibration issue as I can't reliably reproduce the screen issue on my iPad Air 2, with or without a case. That means that issue differs from device to device.

That's why I wonder if the severity of the vibrations do as well. The vibrations appear to be cause by the case resonating with certain frequencies and slight manufacturing differences could theoretically alter that.
 
I wouldn't think either should be subjective. They are either there or they aren't. Whether it bothers someone would be subjective, but whether it happens or not would not be.

Actually the screen distortion issue is the reason I asked about the vibration issue as I can't reliably reproduce the screen issue on my iPad Air 2, with or without a case. That means that issue differs from device to device.

That's why I wonder if the severity of the vibrations do as well. The vibrations appear to be cause by the case resonating with certain frequencies and slight manufacturing differences could theoretically alter that.

There's people who claim they have a perfect screen and it turns out they just aren't the type who can spot certain issues. Same goes with vibration. Some think it's mindblowingly big at mid volume, some are saying it starts at mid volume. No way to know who's perception and description are best.

But it sounds amazing.
 
There's people who claim they have a perfect screen and it turns out they just aren't the type who can spot certain issues. Same goes with vibration. Some think it's mindblowingly big at mid volume, some are saying it starts at mid volume. No way to know who's perception and description are best.



But it sounds amazing.


I've seen the videos of big white blotches appearing on the screen when bobbling the Air 2 in hand and I can say that I don't see that. If I did, I'd have exchanged mine immediately.

The vibrations on the other hand are defiantly there, noticeable even at the lowest possible volume. In fact in some cases I can feel the vibrations and not actually hear the sound.
 
The iPad Air 2 Sound ha nothing wrong, it is clean, it is powerful and it reproduces a lot of bass. It is normal that in a so thin layout there are vibrations, it is the definition of sound... If we want more power, more loudness we have vibrations and to avoid it we need to use heavy structures ( see subwoofer structures ).
My iPad Air 2 has nothing wrong with sound, i used to max volume and it is amazing, and yes there are vibrations... You can try to use equalizer and set reduced bass preset. ;)
 
Actually the screen distortion issue is the reason I asked about the vibration issue as I can't reliably reproduce the screen issue on my iPad Air 2, with or without a case. That means that issue differs from device to device.

That's why I wonder if the severity of the vibrations do as well. The vibrations appear to be cause by the case resonating with certain frequencies and slight manufacturing differences could theoretically alter that.

Well, the battery and logic board are glued into the case. In such a thin device, I can imagine mounting these components might lead to some variations when looking at the distortion issue. Half a millimeter could make the difference here.
The speakers are mounted exactly at pre-defined positions with screws, I don't see much room for variations here.

I absolutely agree with cannono and idark77, it really does sound great.
I was playing around with an equalizer app (not the built-in equalizer presets). If you filter out the lower frequency band you can achieve Air 1 levels of vibration while playing music on the Air 2. The sound is everything but rich then of course.
 
This thread now has 887 replies. It's not likely to be ignored any time soon.

It doesn't matter how good the speakers may sound, the vibration of the entire chassis is a detriment to the "user experience" - something Apple used to devote an enormous amount of time and resources into getting right.

There was simply no reason to make the Air 2 thinner. The end result of thinness for the sake of thinness is a poor user experience. Period.

I agree 100%
 
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