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iPad iPad Air 2 sound vibrating!
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Of course not, every Apple product is absolutely perfect and without any flaw whatsoever.
jonnyb098
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All your posts are also filled with plenty of opinions, half truths and what can be considered "nonsense". Pot calling the kettle black? Everything in this thread is subjective opinion. It bothers some and doesn't bother others.
I've owed every iPad except for the red headed step-child known as the iPad 3. This is by far the best device yet. If any complaints should be launched in relation to the device it should be about iOS 8.
s2mikey
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Fine. Alls I know is that I checked the Air 2 at Best Buy a few days after launch and played a song on a volume level about 1/3 of the way up. The screen was vibrating and almost buzzing like a 1980s pager. Maybe it was a bad one?
No harm , no foul. Enjoy your Air 2 and I'll enjoy my Air 1. Everybody wins.
You won't "see" screen vibrations. You'll feel them through the screen as music is playing or a game is running that has sound. Just saying. If you "see" vibrations, I'd check to see if someone spiked your coffee with LSD. 🙂
akdj
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Excellent comprehension. When youre 17 years old, its easy to nitpick at things youve heard or read on the internet.
My entire post is from experience, daily with the iPad Air2. It also mimics EVERY review online, from PC and Android forums to respected and objectively measured variables with Anand and Ars, Display Mate and excellent photography and videography sites
You, my friend, are full of half truths, as Ive NO need to self justify why I like (appreciate, admire, and accept that THIS particular product would NEVER had existed had Apple not designed it. Period. Not opinion. Fact---and if you can point me to a single full truth other than this half ass, BS about tingling fingers and pressing a panel too hard, resonance for sound---not distortion, not vibration.
Your comprehension needs significant help if thats what you learned from reading my post. Its my experience that dates to the release of the original iPhone, 2007 and iPad in 2010. Ive owned each and your line about using headphones ....holding it wrong, shows EXACTLY how old you are, the envy youre not enjoying because you cant replace the iPad 4 thats perfectly fine for whats objectively the BEST tablet on the market, Bar NONE...and backed up by plethoras of reviews, its the Apple product of the year....wait, no, the 5K iMac, or the newly designed iPhones (bet you think they bend too, right? 😉 lol) --- ignorance isnt a bad thing nor a derogatory comment.
But WHEN youre ignorant to a product ....theres NO reason to share your silly opinions that Jive with NO opinions from other happy users.
Good Lord. Children are spoiled these days. The power of this rig is and was a futuristic dream just a decade ago. When I graduated college, I got a 486. Didnt get a cell phone for another couple years. Mid 20s
As a professional business owner of 27 years, pilot and industry vet thats seen the transformation of media manipulation from analog to digital, its mind blowing. When youre a child, youre unable to actually appreciate the technology your holding.....WRONG!
(Had the iPhone 4 too, never an issue with that crap either. Talk about overblown Bowl Shizzle, its mind numbing sometimes to read these absolutely ridiculous comments from folks that obviously do NOT own, have NOT used, nor have the means, interest or need for the device. Those of us that pay our mortgages and put kids through college humping 15% the weight I was two decades ago for a shoot I fly to with my iPad Mini 2 as my kneeboard, flight planner, TCAS and ADSB, fuel calc, diversion airports, up to the minute weather and traffic conditions as well as Jep charts and plates continuously maintained and less than a pound....replacing the Bonanza twins 52 pound flight bag and our twin Otters 48 pounders. Theres still paper in the pit, but Ive never had to use it since implementing ForeFlight, EFB gives me ATIS, Clearance, UNICOM, Emergency, Ground and tower freaks, even phone numbers for ATIS, ASOS, Customs, the tower or immigration, FSS, and the airport manager.
Thats last years POS, if you consider the A2 a poor piece of engineering. I guess Im more intrigued as to the why youre the one with dozens of comments trying to sway folks YOUR way because your fingers tingle? No pal, its YOU holding it wrong 🙄
akdj
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Hmmm...didnt read THAT part of the post --- have we entered the twilight zone?
Lol ---Alls I know is @ Best Buy a song buzzed... Huh? You SERIOUSLY based your decision to purchase on THAT? And youve been THIS vocal in THIS thread based solely on a couple minutes with a, in all likelihood, a compressed lossy and crappy Dub-Step BS thats DESTROY any real sub!
Unbelievable.
Anandtechs SoC measurements; as you can see, your Air 1 is a fine performer, but A2 is a whole new level of incredible. Look at the GL Bench graphic performance difference.
http://anandtech.com/show/8666/the-apple-ipad-air-2-review/3
More on the Graphics SuperPower on the A2, as well as the speed increase of the internal NANDs read/write performance, in some cases 250-400% increases over the original Air in graphic performance.
From the author himself, on graphics and heat....and (lack of) throttling like ALL other platforms do at some point...
"As one can see, the iPad Air 2 is one of the best performers on this test, considering its frame rate and runtime. While NVIDIA's GK20A GPU in Tegra K1 can get close to the GX6650 for short periods of time, over a long workload it's pretty clear that the GX6650 on 20nm has better sustained performance and significantly superior efficiency as it doesn't throttle until the 200th iteration of the test. It's important to note that the iPad Air 2 is running at a higher native resolution here, so relative to SHIELD Tablet a scaling factor needs to be estimated in order to get an idea for performance at the same resolution. During this test I saw that the skin temperatures never exceeded 45C, so this isn't the result of Apple choosing to run the device hotter than most.
& his final words (½ dozen, maybe 9/10 pages long; gaming, video/photo manips, browsing and movies, looks like he did his homework
"Overall, the iPad Air 2 is likely to be one of the only tablets worth buying on the market today. While iOS isnt perfect, its definitely delivering the best tablet experience as its app support is second to none. While other OEMs may have more features, iOS manages to hold on by virtue of its superior polish and integration with Apple hardware. While Id like to see Apple push the envelope further with the iPad line, its hard to argue this when other OEMs seem to be content with the status quo. While its likely that Apple will be able to hold on to its tablet lead, it remains to be seen if Googles Nexus 9 can prove to be a viable competitor to the iPad Air 2.
Unfortunately, as a cross platform user, the Nex9 is a disappointment. Too bad, as the potential is/was there---and this review was written previous to testing and benching the N9. You can read the review on his site. Well worth it as you seem Extremely ill informed, and with a couple minutes playing a song? Seriously???
You oughts to bow out. The A2 is an absolute different beast than the A1 and I own and will keep both. IMHO, the A1 is #2. Most of his tests show the same (and tests without the A1 are pretty close in performance to the 5s, maybe a 5-8% increase with the same A7 dual core clocked 100MHz higher).
Kinda tough to argue with folks that know their stuff. Even tougher to argue with folks that own, use daily and have for some time...if youve never had one. Seriously, think about the sense that makes?
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NJHitmen
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@akdj - I've thoroughly enjoyed your well-informed posts, particularly the first one, and I wholeheartedly agree with your statements about the device. Sounds like I don't use my Air 2 quite the way you do, but it's part of my life both on a professional and personal basis, and I've arrived at a lot of the same conclusions.
That said, while some users in this thread have been curiously vocal about the "vibration design flaw" (which, as you noted, is not a design flaw at all but rather a conscious choice) - I wouldn't necessarily take them to task for it. People are idiosyncratic, and have a surprisingly broad range of tolerances and expectations with respect to anything they purchase, particularly high-end/premium goods; you drop a chunk of change on something, you expect it to perform a certain way. Whether those expectations are reasonable or not is an entirely different question, especially when we're talking about design choices. Design choices frequently revolve around compromises - "features" to some folks can easily represent failures to others, depending on how they're implemented.
So if a particular poster here bought (or tested, whatever) an Air 2, with certain expectations about the way it would perform/feel, and those expectations were not met - this is not necessarily the hallmark of a poorly-informed consumer. It's the result of design choices that Apple made, which that user was unable to appreciate. That user is not wrong per se...they just have a different perspective about what constitutes a feature.
In short, while every word you wrote is accurate (imo, of course), you aren't going to convince anyone truly bothered by the "vibrations" that they're "incorrect" re: the way they feel. Nobody's right or wrong when it comes to personal preference/expectations.
That said, while some users in this thread have been curiously vocal about the "vibration design flaw" (which, as you noted, is not a design flaw at all but rather a conscious choice) - I wouldn't necessarily take them to task for it. People are idiosyncratic, and have a surprisingly broad range of tolerances and expectations with respect to anything they purchase, particularly high-end/premium goods; you drop a chunk of change on something, you expect it to perform a certain way. Whether those expectations are reasonable or not is an entirely different question, especially when we're talking about design choices. Design choices frequently revolve around compromises - "features" to some folks can easily represent failures to others, depending on how they're implemented.
So if a particular poster here bought (or tested, whatever) an Air 2, with certain expectations about the way it would perform/feel, and those expectations were not met - this is not necessarily the hallmark of a poorly-informed consumer. It's the result of design choices that Apple made, which that user was unable to appreciate. That user is not wrong per se...they just have a different perspective about what constitutes a feature.
In short, while every word you wrote is accurate (imo, of course), you aren't going to convince anyone truly bothered by the "vibrations" that they're "incorrect" re: the way they feel. Nobody's right or wrong when it comes to personal preference/expectations.
Max(IT)
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Is that less credible than someone else's opinion, who post only about sound and screen distortion issues on Apple's products?
Apple products aren't flawed. There are just some lemons, as in any production line.
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There are no screen vibrations.
Feel or see it.
There are none.
And yours is just a denial opinion based on zero experience owning an iPad Air 2. You have not even owned an iPad Air 2 I have owned several units. Apple products are great but like anything else designed by humans are not perfect. Every Apple product, like any product, has flaws. Get your head out of the sand.
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s2mikey
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What the hell are you babbling about now? You're probably the 17 year old here. Making all this crap up about whatever fantasy you have concocted about your life. Internet fantasies are hilarious. I bet on the dating sites you claim your tall, dark, handsome, rich and have six pack abs too. 😛
I tried the Air 2 and I have the means to buy a whole stack of them. It vibrates too much for my liking and many others. Just accept it.
Relax, take a deep breath. Maybe go hop in your plane and run some recon mission or whatever. You can take your ipad with you.... Or whatever.
Happy Holidays.
Yes, there are. You can feel them. FACT. Thank you.
Max(IT)
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You keep returning perfectly working iPads doesn't make you more entitled to have an opinion than me.
I tried dozens. More than you owned for sure. No issues in those areas.
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Nope. None of the iPads I tried had a vibrating screen. They had a rear case resonating without any influence on music quality. Fact. Thank you.
Stay on topic here. You do not know what I own, owned or what I returned for a valid reason. Every iPad Air 2 I have owned has indeed had screen distortion of some degree along with screen vibration. These are indeed design flaws to an otherwise great tablet.
I work in manufacturing and know that budget and product launch deadlines can compromise the quality of any product. Apple is no different in this regard. Perhaps Apple will address these problems in the next release of the iPad.
Max(IT)
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Every iPad you owned then was defective (maybe, but basically I don't care). Still there is no design flaws.
There are indeed design flaws.
Go out and actually purchase an iPad Air 2 and check back in a month or so.
Max(IT)
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Enjoy your head-time in the sand. Leave enough room to breathe it has severely impacted your critical judgement. I sense you never had it to begin with.
Max(IT)
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You can't judge my critical judgement just because I'm not seeing a non existent flaw on a very good product.
Morac
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It's pretty easy to prove the iPad Air 2 screen vibrates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sONI4-LhIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKQw6w71ef4
http://youtu.be/K6BH98Mu1x0
http://youtu.be/EgR2gns8C9Y
That it vibrates isn't disputed, it's whether or not it bothers people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sONI4-LhIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKQw6w71ef4
http://youtu.be/K6BH98Mu1x0
http://youtu.be/EgR2gns8C9Y
That it vibrates isn't disputed, it's whether or not it bothers people.
s2mikey
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The bold comment is the key here. I'm glad you mentioned this as it appears to get lost in this thread. For whatever reason, the apologizers and defenders seem to think we are just out to make an issue out of nothing. Why would we do that? I WANTED to actually get an Air 2 even though it was much sooner than my usual upgrade cycle. I was very interested but ended up pretty disappointed when I went to my local store and discovered this problem. it botherd ME, that's for sure.
bushido
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It IS indeed annoying. I am playing a game on like 10% volume and the whole casing is buzzing. I am surprised theres not more people bitching about it considering people love to bitch about any "gate" these days.
I guess if it was happening on the iPhone there would be heaps of complainers all over the media and social media though
I guess if it was happening on the iPhone there would be heaps of complainers all over the media and social media though
Morac
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I'll point out that while most people don't like change, people are quite adaptable as a whole. Some people are less adaptable than others though.
Personally when I got my Air 2, I hated the vibrations. I was sure I would end up returning it. After using it for about 3 weeks, I'm mostly used to it. Sometimes I still find it mildly annoying, but not enough that I mute it, like I was doing the first few days I had it. If I had only played with it for a few minutes in the store, I probably wouldn't have bought it.
Personally when I got my Air 2, I hated the vibrations. I was sure I would end up returning it. After using it for about 3 weeks, I'm mostly used to it. Sometimes I still find it mildly annoying, but not enough that I mute it, like I was doing the first few days I had it. If I had only played with it for a few minutes in the store, I probably wouldn't have bought it.
s2mikey
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Change is one thing but getting used to my $700 dollar tablet vibrating is change I'd care to do without! No way I'd get used to it. Ever.
I'm glad you did though, that's great.
The vibration is the 1st thing I noticed when I started using my 2. I just upgraded from an Air and I actually thought it was a feature that Apple added intensionally. I haven't been to this forum in a while so I wasn't actually aware of this so called "issue". Honestly it doesn't really bother me. If I'm holding the iPad, I'm either playing game or watching a movie. I'm certainly not going to hold it while listening to music unless it's on Youtube. The vibration sort of makes the games and movies a bit more immersive in my opinion.
Yeah, it could be a design flaw but that's one very slim device you're holding. I'd rather feel some vibration and have the sound full and rich than to cut all of the bass out with the EQ to make the vibration disappear.
Yeah, it could be a design flaw but that's one very slim device you're holding. I'd rather feel some vibration and have the sound full and rich than to cut all of the bass out with the EQ to make the vibration disappear.
I tried an Air 2 for the first time at BB today, and wow people were no kidding about the vibration. Only at half volume and it was annoying.
Used the mini 3 next to it, and crank full volume and it didnt even vibrate close to as much as half on Air 2.
Used the mini 3 next to it, and crank full volume and it didnt even vibrate close to as much as half on Air 2.
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