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iPad iPad Air 2 sound vibrating!

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Morac said:
Just chiming in with an observation. Was in the Apple Store today and happened to show the sales people (3 of them looked at it) the vibration issue and they all said that wasn't normal and I should make a genius appointment. One brought out an Air 1 as a comparison and mistakenly thought it was an Air 2.

I then went and played with the demo Air 2s and they all vibrated to one degree or another. Just goes to show you the "expertise" at the Apple Store. The people selling apparently have never used the products they are selling.

I didn't actually talk to a "genius" as the place was mobbed and I didn't feel like waiting there.
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they are trained monkeys to repeate the same sentence "that is not normal". have you ever heard anything else from their mouth when you are complaining apples product? "this is the first time..."

althought the vibration is heavy, and it is vibrating from the start you turn the volume on just for the single step, you get used to it on some level. it feels funny, i dont like it all and i have noticed that i place my hands upper and upper all the time avoiding the vibration.. and im keeping the volume only on 1-3 bars =P
 
You know, I just checked and ALL (2,3,4, Air, Air2) of my iPads vibrate if the volume is at 100% while loud sounds are playing. The older iPads have a heavier battery, and produce less Bass, but if you place your hand freely about 1/8" - 1/4" away from the speaker holes while playing loud music, you will feel the vibrations.

Also, on every electronic device I own that has speakers, if you turn the volume up to 100% while playing loud sounds, you will notice the vibrations and I bet you won't even think of it as a defect. Because it's not.

Sound vibrates, it moves air, that's how it works... No vibrations, no sound.
 
crjackson2134 said:
You know, I just checked and ALL (2,3,4, Air, Air2) of my iPads vibrate if the volume is at 100% while loud sounds are playing. The older iPads have a heavier battery, and produce less Bass, but if you place your hand freely about 1/8" - 1/4" away from the speaker holes while playing loud music, you will feel the vibrations.

Also, on every electronic device I own that has speakers, if you turn the volume up to 100% while playing loud sounds, you will notice the vibrations and I bet you won't even think of it as a defect. Because it's not.

Sound vibrates, it moves air, that's how it works... No vibrations, no sound.
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They will tell you the Air 2 vibrates at 20% of the volume, and it's actually true, but my question remain the same: what's the problem?
 
Morac said:
It actually vibrates at 1% or whatever the first tick is.
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Very true, if it's making sound, it's vibrating. I think the reason that people have become concerned is because they can more easily detect the vibrations in the back of the case on this model. That said, it's still not a defect but rather a characteristic, and nothing to become preoccupied with.
 
crjackson2134 said:
Also, on every electronic device I own that has speakers, if you turn the volume up to 100% while playing loud sounds, you will notice the vibrations and I bet you won't even think of it as a defect. Because it's not.

Sound vibrates, it moves air, that's how it works... No vibrations, no sound.
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Never noticed the vibration on any of my macbook laptops playing sound.

Nor on any iPad (and I've owned EVERY generation) until the Air 2. And you don't need to be at 100% or close to it to notice.

So in reality (my reality) the Air 2 does vibrate A LOT more than "every electronic device I own".

You may not care it does, you may care; but it does.
 
Scott6666 said:
Never noticed the vibration on any of my macbook laptops playing sound.

Nor on any iPad (and I've owned EVERY generation) until the Air 2. And you don't need to be at 100% or close to it to notice.

So in reality (my reality) the Air 2 does vibrate A LOT more than "every electronic device I own".

You may not care it does, you may care; but it does.
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I understand what you are saying, but you aren't understanding what I'm saying.

You can find vibration anywhere there is sound, just because you never noticed it doesn't mean it's not there. I never noticed it on my older generation iPads either until I looked for it, but it's there. You can't have sound without it.

I did notice it when I got my iPad Air 2, because it's more prominent. That doesn't make it a defect.

I didn't say that it doesn't have more noticeable vibrations than your other electronic devices, you are twisting my words to make your point.

I didn't say the iPad Air 2 HAD to be at 100% volume, again you are twisting my words to make YOUR point.

And if none of your devices produce vibrations at any volume, then your devices don't produce sound at all. You obviously don't grasp the post at all.

ALL sound is a by product of vibration. The fact that YOU never noticed it before doesn't change the nature of physics. The issue that the vibrations are more noticable on the current generation iPad does not mean it's a defect or design flaw. That is the point!

It's like this, my older heaver car produces very little vibration or noise when traveling over ridges in worn roadway. My brand new sport coupe makes a lot more noise and noticeable vibration. There is nothing wrong with my new car that it produces these characteristics. It's not a defect, it's not a design flaw. None of the previous vehicles over the past years have ever produced the same sound and vibrations while driving over the same road either.

The current model has it's own set of characteristics that are different from other models. Different does not equal defect.
 
crjackson2134 said:
You can find vibration anywhere there is sound, just because you never noticed it doesn't mean it's not there.... And if none of your devices produce vibrations at any volume, then your devices don't produce sound at all....ALL sound is a by product of vibration.
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But there is a little world: annoying

Air 2 is the first mobile product i can feel the vibration from the start i turn on the volume. Like i said i use the volume low at 1-3 bars and on the 3bar the vibration is already very annoying. I keep placing my hands upper and upper just to avoid it...

The whole point of the designing is that it works without an users notice. Like you already said: "just because you never noticed it doesn't mean it's not there"

That is the point!

I dont need to feel soundwaves for listening them...
 
after two months of usage, i think i've become used to the vibrations and i don't feel it any more. Well, i definetly can feel it if i pay attention, they're still there... what i mean is that they aren't annoying me any more.

in addition, i feel the real improvement of the sound compared to my old iPad 3 (not owned the original Air). Try to put the ipad air 2 on a wood surface (a table for example) and play music... it is AMAZING! not sure it depends only from the vibrations, but the sound is really powerful and not distorted at all. and also basses are great, considering the size of the speakers!

i think anyway that someone could be annoyed by these vibrations... this is only my experience, and the vibrations are real.
 
mrex said:
But there is a little world: annoying

Air 2 is the first mobile product i can feel the vibration from the start i turn on the volume. Like i said i use the volume low at 1-3 bars and on the 3bar the vibration is already very annoying. I keep placing my hands upper and upper just to avoid it...

The whole point of the designing is that it works without an users notice. Like you already said: "just because you never noticed it doesn't mean it's not there"

That is the point!

I dont need to feel soundwaves for listening them...
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Annoying is the most subjective argument you can speak about. So it's not an issue, but just a subjective feeling.
That's my point since the beginning ;)
 
Steve121178 said:
Amazing how reviews from tech sites like The Verge didn't mention it. What does that tell you? ;)
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It is amazing. I read and watched every single review on the iPad Air 2 and not one single mention of the most annoying sound vibration ever. I just keep telling myself I'm being a perfectionist and to let it go. But it bugs. Touch sensitivity went to the crapper as well. As did my home button - it's mushy. Oh ya and wifi drops out once a day. I feel like trading my wife back for my old original iPad Air. It was perfect. But I had to have the newest one didn't I. Should of left well enough alone. The grass is not always greener.
 
When lots people complaining about the same thing, it is not just a subjective feeling anymore. Do you use Tapatalk? If you do, you know what im talking about...

Or maybe this is the apples best idea of "haptic feedback", lol...
 
mrex said:
When lots people complaining about the same thing, it is not just a subjective feeling anymore. Do you use Tapatalk? If you do, you know what im talking about...

Or maybe this is the apples best idea of "haptic feedback", lol...
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Lots of people? Reality check: 10, 20 or even 100 people on a forum, compared to a few millions happy users, are not "a lot of people", but just an insignificant vocal minority.
 
PicnicTutorials said:
It is amazing. I read and watched every single review on the iPad Air 2 and not one single mention of the most annoying sound vibration ever. I just keep telling myself I'm being a perfectionist and to let it go. But it bugs. Touch sensitivity went to the crapper as well. As did my home button - it's mushy. Oh ya and wifi drops out once a day. I feel like trading my wife back for my old original iPad Air. It was perfect. But I had to have the newest one didn't I. Should of left well enough alone. The grass is not always greener.
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Oh please, just about every review site is bought and paid for as far as reviews are concerned. Just like politicians in Washington. They are on auto pilot with Apple product reviews. If they aren't then their revenue gets cut. these "professional" reviewers are practically on the payroll per se.

A Google search reveals that this and other issues are real and they do exist. The apologists and self justification crowd can keep holding their ears saying "blah blah blah" but the fact of the matter is that the Air 2 has some very real problems that DO bother some users. And that's the end of that.
 
s2mikey said:
Oh please, just about every review site is bought and paid for as far as reviews are concerned. Just like politicians in Washington. They are on auto pilot with Apple product reviews. If they aren't then their revenue gets cut. these "professional" reviewers are practically on the payroll per se.

A Google search reveals that this and other issues are real and they do exist. The apologists and self justification crowd can keep holding their ears saying "blah blah blah" but the fact of the matter is that the Air 2 has some very real problems that DO bother some users. And that's the end of that.
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That's quite ridiculous. Most of the review sites are totally independent and unpaid by Apple.

A Google search could demonstrate that apes speak and fly, that doesn't make it true.
A vocal minority of complainers doesn't make those "issues" true.... And that's the end of that.
 
mcdj said:
Do you people grasp that the iPad 2 and 3 are much thicker and heavier than the Air 2?

You're all essentially asking "why does this thin sheet of metal and impossibly thin glass vibrate when I listen to thumping teenage music and watch Die Hard 26: Die Hardest?

The entire slab of metal and glass of the Air 2 is acting like a speaker diaphragm. The Air 2 is essentially a 10" flat speaker with a screen. How can it be as thin as it is and not transmit some vibration?

With the smaller battery, you're bound to lose some dampening. And with the fused screen, the thin layer of air between the glass and LCD is gone, and with it, some dampening.

People are loving the Air 2's thinness and weight. But those feature come at a certain sonic price. It's simple physics, and unless Apple makes the entire chassis out of some expensive super sound dampening metal, or fills every empty void inside with sound proofing foam, it's not going to change.

It isn't a design flaw. It isn't a defect. It's a natural byproduct of something this thin and light. Period.

Oh and to whomever compared the Air 2 to "normal" iPads...newsflash; the Air is now a NORMAL iPad.
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No it's a continuos vibration. Like a humming as soon as they turn on. The vibration is there whether or not it's talk radio or Britney Spears music. It is definitely a flaw. I will live with it though. But I think as part of Apples testing they should give out a few to non nerd/genius types that build these things, and have an eye for the obvious, so that they can report back any blaring defects such as this.

I love apple products. I have no choice now I've invested too much not to lol. But I see a quality drop lately. They are putting out great and innovative products for sure. But they need to put equal amount of effort into ironing out all the small defects and bugs in the new hardware and software. IOS8 is riddled with bugs. From the apps, to the core IOS, to Safari. Bottom line is if they need to drop 3 iOS upddates days after their ios8 launch they failed at the betas and testing. Either that or they simply need to hire somebody with an eye for detail to point them out. I could point out 10 bugs in one day of browsing. It makes zero sense why apple would prefer to have 1000's of bug and defect threads floating around the web with each product release instead of doing competent testing beforehand.
 
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Max(IT) said:
That's quite ridiculous. Most of the review sites are totally independent and unpaid by Apple.

A Google search could demonstrate that apes speak and fly, that doesn't make it true.
A vocal minority of complainers doesn't make those "issues" true.... And that's the end of that.
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Being pompous and very close-minded has no place here on a thread where REAL issues need to be openly considered and discussed. To say, “And that’s the end of that” is very telling of someone who doesn’t even own an Air 2.
 
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BoneHead001 said:
Being pompous and very close-minded has no place here on a thread where REAL issues need to be openly considered and discussed. To say, “And that’s the end of that” is very telling of someone who doesn’t even own an Air 2.
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And "that's the end of that" was just mimic what the user I quoted wrote....

On this thread someone is trying to depict as real issue something that's just a subjective, so respectable but yet just subjective, feeling.
 
Max(IT) said:
Lots of people? Reality check: 10, 20 or even 100 people on a forum, compared to a few millions happy users, are not "a lot of people", but just an insignificant vocal minority.
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A second reality check: millions of users never use these forums and complain here. And what is real is that when you complaining this to apple, it is always the first time they hear this.. And that's the only real thing for sure...
 
mrex said:
A second reality check: millions of users never use these forums and complain here. And what is real is that when you complaining this to apple, it is always the first time they hear this.. And that's the only real thing for sure...
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Millions of happy users keep buying Apple's products because they are ignorant. Right.
Very credible indeed
 
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