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That's correct. As I said, even a round home button could be an issue for someone. That's doesn't make it a design flaw.

I don't think they took it with too much consideration. I think it's definitely a flaw in the design, but not something they thought would be a problem for the majority of the userbase.

I can't think that they made is specifically to have the vibration feel the way it does. I think they designed it, noticed it, and figured it would pass the majority.
 
Sound (screen) vibration is a hardware flaw. No excuses. It affect usability? Yes for some users.

Says who?

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I don't think they took it with too much consideration. I think it's definitely a flaw in the design, but not something they thought would be a problem for the majority of the userbase.

I can't think that they made is specifically to have the vibration feel the way it does. I think they designed it, noticed it, and figured it would pass the majority.

Do you know how many prototypes are tested before the final product comes out?

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The thinner aluminum chassis brings with it inherent problems like the screen distortion problem because the chassis is too thin allowing components to press against the LCD components.

They're is no screen distortion problem during normal usage.
 
Says who?

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Do you know how many prototypes are tested before the final product comes out?

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They're is no screen distortion problem during normal usage.

Do you actually own an iPad Air 2?
You should actually go out and buy one. Then and only then give your opinion. There are indeed screen distortions from normal use – some more than others. There are some units ( not all) that distort when simply walking with the unit. I know, I have owned several.
 
I just got my Air 2 today (perfect screen, no distortion :D) and was holding it while talking to someone, and all of a sudden it felt like the thing was vibrating! After investigating, saw I had the volume up all the way and that had just received an email. So now when it plays a sound and I have it at 100% volume, it vibrates at about 20% (just an estimate) of the power of an iPhone's motor, which I actually like. This is a great non-feature so far (I'm not trolling).
 
Says who?

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Do you know how many prototypes are tested before the final product comes out?

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They're is no screen distortion problem during normal usage.

Says who? Well, who says it's not?
How many proto's are tested? Heck if I know. What's your point? Are you suggesting that they designed it purposely to vibrate like it does with a single volume tick being used? It's still a flaw, whether it was done intentionally or not. I don't thing there is a single product on the face of the Earth that doesn't have a design flaw in it.
 
I just got my Air 2 today (perfect screen, no distortion :D) and was holding it while talking to someone, and all of a sudden it felt like the thing was vibrating! After investigating, saw I had the volume up all the way and that had just received an email. So now when it plays a sound and I have it at 100% volume, it vibrates at about 20% (just an estimate) of the power of an iPhone's motor, which I actually like. This is a great non-feature so far (I'm not trolling).

I just go t my iPad air yesterday. I would agree with those percentages. But the vibrate gets pretty annoying when your playing a game and it just keeps vibrating without stopping.
 
Do you actually own an iPad Air 2?
You should actually go out and buy one. Then and only then give your opinion. There are indeed screen distortions from normal use – some more than others. There are some units ( not all) that distort when simply walking with the unit. I know, I have owned several.
I've tried something like 30.... Did you own more?

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Says who? Well, who says it's not?
How many proto's are tested? Heck if I know. What's your point? Are you suggesting that they designed it purposely to vibrate like it does with a single volume tick being used? It's still a flaw, whether it was done intentionally or not. I don't thing there is a single product on the face of the Earth that doesn't have a design flaw in it.

Not, it's not designed to purposely resonate. It's designed to be thin and light. That's not a flaw.
 
I just got my Air 2 today (perfect screen, no distortion :D) and was holding it while talking to someone, and all of a sudden it felt like the thing was vibrating! After investigating, saw I had the volume up all the way and that had just received an email. So now when it plays a sound and I have it at 100% volume, it vibrates at about 20% (just an estimate) of the power of an iPhone's motor, which I actually like. This is a great non-feature so far (I'm not trolling).
No one is going to deny it resonates. Surely it's not a feature. My point is: how's that a defect, since its sound quality is pretty high?
 
The sound quality is very high. I Wish reviews had mentioned more info about the speakers, pros and cons.
 
Compairing the sound quality with my two years old Note tablet, air2 sounds like i have put it to a bucket, a pillow on it and playing a song there. If you are expecting a good sound, you will be disappointed in speakers so use your earphones... (imo)
 
I just go t my iPad air yesterday. I would agree with those percentages. But the vibrate gets pretty annoying when your playing a game and it just keeps vibrating without stopping.

Ah ok, well that's the thing: I haven't played any games or anything for a prolonged period of time with the speaker on, so I haven't found it to be that bad yet. I've only really used headphones so far, but later on I'll check to see how bad it is when playing sounds out loud.
 
Compairing the sound quality with my two years old Note tablet, air2 sounds like i have put it to a bucket, a pillow on it and playing a song there. If you are expecting a good sound, you will be disappointed in speakers so use your earphones... (imo)

Sure, sure. We believe you… don't we guys? :rolleyes:
 
I've tried something like 30.... Did you own more?

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Not, it's not designed to purposely resonate. It's designed to be thin and light. That's not a flaw.
smh. That's exactly the point. It's a design flaw. It's a design that has imperfect results; thin and light suffers from the resonating sound causing vibrations in the iPad chassis.
No one is going to deny it resonates. Surely it's not a feature. My point is: how's that a defect, since its sound quality is pretty high?
Defect? No. It's doing exactly what it would do when designed the way it is. Sound quality high? I think you're letting the placebo affect take control of your "review". It a decent sound at best. With stereo speakers you'll never really get to use to realistically listen to anything in stereo and thin sounding mids and lows.
 
Defect? No. It's doing exactly what it would do when designed the way it is.

This. When you have speakers of considerable power in an incredibly thin device woth relatively little mass, the thing is going to vibrate. I fail to see how  could have changed the iPad so that the speakers don't vibrate the entire thing, without deviating from their plan of 20% thinner.

It's just how physics work.





(I'm assuming. I'm no expert here)
 
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This. When you have speakers of considerable power in an incredibly thin device woth relatively little mass, the thing is going to vibrate. I fail to see how  could have changed the iPad so that the speakers don't vibrate the entire thing, without deviating from their plan of 20% thinner.

It's just how physics work.





(I'm assuming. I'm no expert here)

I definitely don't feel it as a defect. I do feel that it is a design flaw. I don't really see any logical explanation for it to be thinner than what the Air is. Well, beyond the obvious marketing standpoint that is. They'll get more accessories sold for the new "thinness" instead.
 
I definitely don't feel it as a defect. I do feel that it is a design flaw. I don't really see any logical explanation for it to be thinner than what the Air is. Well, beyond the obvious marketing standpoint that is. They'll get more accessories sold for the new "thinness" instead.

Yes, there is no way that this just "snuck" it's way by Apple...They knew about the vibration because they do test the stuff. This is not a flaw because they knew about the "issue" and decided that it was fine and released the product. And it hasn't affected my user experience yet, so not a flaw to me.
 
Yes, there is no way that this just "snuck" it's way by Apple...They knew about the vibration because they do test the stuff. This is not a flaw because they knew about the "issue" and decided that it was fine and released the product. And it hasn't affected my user experience yet, so not a flaw to me.

Yeah, they had to know about it. There's a difference between an "issue" and a "flaw".

It is a flaw. That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be an issue. Some people, like you, don't have any issues with the flaw; while others do, like me. I still use it though, but I have to change the way I use it because of the design flaw.
 
smh. That's exactly the point. It's a design flaw. It's a design that has imperfect results; thin and light suffers from the resonating sound causing vibrations in the iPad chassis.
What's imperfect since sound isn't distorted?
If sound was affected, I would agree with your complain.
But since sound isn't affected, I think there is nothing wrong in its design.
Actually I love the new form factor.
Defect? No. It's doing exactly what it would do when designed the way it is. Sound quality high? I think you're letting the placebo affect take control of your "review". It a decent sound at best. With stereo speakers you'll never really get to use to realistically listen to anything in stereo and thin sounding mids and lows.
The definition of pretty high quality, for such a tiny speakers, it's not mine, but comes from several reviews.
Surely it's not really "high" quality, compared to dedicated external speakers.

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Compairing the sound quality with my two years old Note tablet, air2 sounds like i have put it to a bucket, a pillow on it and playing a song there. If you are expecting a good sound, you will be disappointed in speakers so use your earphones... (imo)

Your two years old Note is a joke of a tablet, like any Samsung's tablet so far.

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I'm really puzzled on how people could really be disappointed by that faint vibration :confused:
My iPhone 6 resonates much more than my previous iPhone 5S, for the same reason (thinner and lighter).
How's that an issue ??? :confused:
 
iPad Air 2 sound vibrating!

I so wish they could add an age verification and a function to filter comments...
 
What's imperfect since sound isn't distorted?
If sound was affected, I would agree with your complain.
But since sound isn't affected, I think there is nothing wrong in its design.
Actually I love the new form factor.

The definition of pretty high quality, for such a tiny speakers, it's not mine, but comes from several reviews.
Surely it's not really "high" quality, compared to dedicated external speakers.

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Your two years old Note is a joke of a tablet, like any Samsung's tablet so far.

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I'm really puzzled on how people could really be disappointed by that faint vibration :confused:
My iPhone 6 resonates much more than my previous iPhone 5S, for the same reason (thinner and lighter).
How's that an issue ??? :confused:

There are plenty of reviews that complain about the sound being subpar. So... not sure which you would rather hear about.

Faint vibration? You have to be kidding. With a single tick of sound volume, the freakin iPad vibrates.

I definitely don't feel any vibration when using my 4, 5, or 5s. I use all three of them daily. It is faint on the 6. Again, it might not be an issue for you; while it is an issue for others. I don't particularly like it, especially on the iPad Air 2.

I can understand 100% that it isn't an issue for you. It happens, and you acknowledge that it does happen. You must understand not everyone has the same feelings about the product as you do. It couldn't sit and watch a movie with 25% sound in this thing.

Maybe I would be used to it and be ok with it if I didn't come from the iPad 4. If I had used the Air for a year, I wonder if the vibration would just be noticeable and I'd be ok with it. I dunno. We'll see how it goes from my perspective the longer I have it.
 
There are plenty of reviews that complain about the sound being subpar. So... not sure which you would rather hear about.

Faint vibration? You have to be kidding. With a single tick of sound volume, the freakin iPad vibrates.

I definitely don't feel any vibration when using my 4, 5, or 5s. I use all three of them daily. It is faint on the 6. Again, it might not be an issue for you; while it is an issue for others. I don't particularly like it, especially on the iPad Air 2.

I can understand 100% that it isn't an issue for you. It happens, and you acknowledge that it does happen. You must understand not everyone has the same feelings about the product as you do. It couldn't sit and watch a movie with 25% sound in this thing.

Maybe I would be used to it and be ok with it if I didn't come from the iPad 4. If I had used the Air for a year, I wonder if the vibration would just be noticeable and I'd be ok with it. I dunno. We'll see how it goes from my perspective the longer I have it.
Please point me to a review defining the sound subpar because I cannot find one.

It's faint, I'm 100% sure about that. I'm not going to watch a film without a good pair of earbuds on, but I'm sure I can stand for that faint vibration easily.

And I think you are going to get accustomed to that in a few weeks.
 
Please point me to a review defining the sound subpar because I cannot find one.

It's faint, I'm 100% sure about that. I'm not going to watch a film without a good pair of earbuds on, but I'm sure I can stand for that faint vibration easily.

And I think you are going to get accustomed to that in a few weeks.

I've had it since launch, and I'm not happy with it still.

Dude, if you're not using the iPad speakers, you shouldn't have any vibration at all lol. Again, your usage and acceptance doesn't pertain to the rest of the world.

Here's a quick search for the reviews that show the sound quality as a "con".

http://www.macworld.co.uk/review/ipad/ipad-air-2-review-3544035/

Sound quality is thin and speaker placement is wasteful

iPad Air 2 review: Sound quality

The iPad Air 2 gets a stereo speaker setup, like the iPad mini lineup before it. (At least, we're pretty sure it does - there's still some debate about this, and Apple's own specs only call them speakers.) About time, some audiophiles might say: yet the truth is that it might as well still be mono.

The iPad Air 2's stereo speaker grilles are right next to each other, on the same edge of the device. (The lower edge, either side of the Lightning port.) It's therefore almost impossible to create a situation in which the two sound sources can be heard separately. If you pop the iPad on its side and watch a movie with amazing sound design, prepare for disappointment: both speakers will be on the left (or the right) of the screen, and their output will be mashed together.

We put our noses up against the Lightning port and were able to persuade (fool?) ourselves into thinking we were listening to music in glorious stereo. There was an audible separation between left and right channels. But this obviously isn't the way any sane person listens to the content on their tablet.

To provide good stereo sound, the iPad needs to have speakers on opposite sides. (Funnily enough, the latest rumour about the iPad Pro predicts exactly this.) Of course, this would involve compromises in design, and it's perfectly possible that Apple doesn't think of the iPad as a serious audio device; and those who want stronger audio can always invest in a wireless speaker or some decent headphones.

Moving away from the mono/stereo issue (and it is frustrating to have stereo speakers but not be able to listen to them in a way that is conducive to stereo sound), the iPad Air 2 produces sound that isn't bad, but isn't great either. It can manage quite a decent volume without quality degrading, but while you get a nice solid snap out of snare drums and similar, bass isn't much to write home about. It's quite a 'thin' sound, too - not something you'd call warm.
 
Could it be that Apple looked into the issue already fixed it? So that Air 2s, manufactured after a certain date, are problem free?

Or will they really fix it, or try to prevent it with the next iPad?
 
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