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To make it a true laptop replacement they need to put the OS on it but didn't. That said because it would take alot off the macbook sales. They will never have anything other than IOS on the ipad.
 
To make it a true laptop replacement they need to put the OS on it but didn't. That said because it would take alot off the macbook sales. They will never have anything other than IOS on the ipad.

And in my opinion, they shouldn't. I don't think that convergence is the answer here.

To me, Microsoft has made a huge mistake by just simply slapping Windows on every device. True, it's nice to be able to run whatever programs you please, but actually navigating Windows with a touch screen is a horrible experience and it would be the same if Apple stuck OS X on an iPad. Notice how any time you see a Surface advertised, it always has a keyboard and trackpad attached to it. That's because even the smallest details like clicking the X to close a window is clumsy and irritating. Apple would be making a huge mistake to follow in those footsteps.

They need to build iOS into the operating system that it could be in order to actually be able to take advantage of the changes they're making to the iPad hardware.
 
No chance of any of this except possibly 3d touch.
-Faster: obviously
-Apple Pencil: definitely
-3D touch: maybe
-Better battery: hopefully
-4k? No chance.
Correction.

*3D Touch: definitely. Apple Pencil: maybe
 
Correction.

*3D Touch: definitely. Apple Pencil: maybe
I think it will boil down to how much weight 3D Touch adds and if Apple can get that under control. I really doubt they'd increase the weight of the 3 because the only design update of the 2 was that it was ever so marginally lighter.

I still think pencil is certain. It increases the value of the air and the pro(more apps and incentive to make them) with almost no extra r and d costs.
 
And in my opinion, they shouldn't. I don't think that convergence is the answer here.

To me, Microsoft has made a huge mistake by just simply slapping Windows on every device. True, it's nice to be able to run whatever programs you please, but actually navigating Windows with a touch screen is a horrible experience and it would be the same if Apple stuck OS X on an iPad. Notice how any time you see a Surface advertised, it always has a keyboard and trackpad attached to it. That's because even the smallest details like clicking the X to close a window is clumsy and irritating. Apple would be making a huge mistake to follow in those footsteps.

They need to build iOS into the operating system that it could be in order to actually be able to take advantage of the changes they're making to the iPad hardware.

Agreed. I much prefer the devices stay separate and do their specific job as best they can versus trying to be everything. That never seems to work. iOS is smooth and easy to use which is how it should be. Doesnt mean they cant beef it up a bit though. I suspect they'll be addressing this. I have a feeling. ;)
 
And in my opinion, they shouldn't. I don't think that convergence is the answer here.

To me, Microsoft has made a huge mistake by just simply slapping Windows on every device. True, it's nice to be able to run whatever programs you please, but actually navigating Windows with a touch screen is a horrible experience and it would be the same if Apple stuck OS X on an iPad. Notice how any time you see a Surface advertised, it always has a keyboard and trackpad attached to it. That's because even the smallest details like clicking the X to close a window is clumsy and irritating. Apple would be making a huge mistake to follow in those footsteps.

They need to build iOS into the operating system that it could be in order to actually be able to take advantage of the changes they're making to the iPad hardware.

Exactly.

The beauty of the iPad and iOS, is that it's a fast and efficient way of computing. Simplicity is the name of the game here.

iOS needs to further grow into it's own by remaining a simpler version of OS X, while capturing the functionalities.

I prefer doing certain things on my iPad Pro vs on my MacBook. When writing an email, for example, I prefer to grab my iPad as I prefer the iOS's interface compared to Mail on my MacBook. Even emailing attachments is much easier. Same goes for online banking, web browsing, YouTube, etc...

Your comment about the surface is spot on. As a laptop, it's great. As a tablet, not so much.
 
And in my opinion, they shouldn't. I don't think that convergence is the answer here.

To me, Microsoft has made a huge mistake by just simply slapping Windows on every device. True, it's nice to be able to run whatever programs you please, but actually navigating Windows with a touch screen is a horrible experience and it would be the same if Apple stuck OS X on an iPad. Notice how any time you see a Surface advertised, it always has a keyboard and trackpad attached to it. That's because even the smallest details like clicking the X to close a window is clumsy and irritating. Apple would be making a huge mistake to follow in those footsteps.

They need to build iOS into the operating system that it could be in order to actually be able to take advantage of the changes they're making to the iPad hardware.
I have the surface 3 and its a wonderful device. I am glad it has full Windows on it so I can run full Windows applications like photoshop and illustrator etc.
 
Agreed. I much prefer the devices stay separate and do their specific job as best they can versus trying to be everything. That never seems to work. iOS is smooth and easy to use which is how it should be. Doesnt mean they cant beef it up a bit though. I suspect they'll be addressing this. I have a feeling. ;)

Same. Microsoft has confirmed time and time again that putting everything in the same package isn't as good as it sounds. I suspect Apple is already behind the scenes planning something really incredible for iOS 10. Perhaps even iOS X? :p


Exactly.

The beauty of the iPad and iOS, is that it's a fast and efficient way of computing. Simplicity is the name of the game here.

iOS needs to further grow into it's own by remaining a simpler version of OS X, while capturing the functionalities.

I prefer doing certain things on my iPad Pro vs on my MacBook. When writing an email, for example, I prefer to grab my iPad as I prefer the iOS's interface compared to Mail on my MacBook. Even emailing attachments is much easier. Same goes for online banking, web browsing, YouTube, etc...

Your comment about the surface is spot on. As a laptop, it's great. As a tablet, not so much.

Yup. The game of iOS is a completely different universe than OS X. They may perform similar tasks, but the entire execution of them is completely different. Tablets and laptops are different worlds, they're devices meant to be handled very differently from each other. Microsoft doesn't seem to have learned that yet with their devices. And same, I use my iPad for certain things and my MBP for others. Granted, the tasks overlap quite a bit, but the are certain things that the iPad just does slightly better.

I'm by no means saying that I am a Microsoft hater or anything. I quite like Windows 10. However, the Surface devices (and all the other Windows tablets) just don't work for me. It makes sense, but it's just not comfortable. I think the first thing that they've gotten right ever since they embarked on the whole thing they've got going on now is the Surface Book. It's a laptop that just...sort of...happens to function as a tablet. Which I think is the only way to go if you want to put them both in one. Making it 50/50 just simply isn't a comfortable experience.


Windows 10 sure is pretty comfy on my MBP, however. :D
 
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I think it will boil down to how much weight 3D Touch adds and if Apple can get that under control. I really doubt they'd increase the weight of the 3 because the only design update of the 2 was that it was ever so marginally lighter.

I still think pencil is certain. It increases the value of the air and the pro(more apps and incentive to make them) with almost no extra r and d costs.
That's pretty good reasoning actually. Definitely makes sense about 3D Touch.
 
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet but the biggest hint Apple gave that they WONT change the iPad Air 3's resolution is the iPad Pro. iPP can run iPad apps natively in landscape. Why would they change the resolution 6-12 months later?

Also, unlike the iPhone, I wouldn't mind trading an hour of iPad battery life for a thinner/lighter device. If they can keep the same and make it smaller, great. But otherwise I think the iPad needs to be as small as possible.
 
I'm very sure that Apple won't intorduce 3D touch to the iPad, at least not the way like Apple watch or iPhone 6S. 3D touch uses Taptic engine which is virtually a vibrator and vibrators have never been added to iPad since the first model. Apple has already allowed iPads to view live photos by long-pressing a photo. I think the Apple pencil might be an alternative to 3D touch.
 
Although the iPad Air 2 display still looks fantastic and has nothing wrong with it, It is basically the display which came with the iPad 3 in March 2012. The 326dpi of the iPad mini is great and it would be really nice to have that DPI on the Air /9.7" model in 2016. 4K is just overkill and unnecessary though.

For me, apple pencil support, 256GB of storage and the A9X CPU would be fine upgrades indeed. The smart connector could be handy as well, although I'd like to see some better keyboard cases around first.
 
Although the iPad Air 2 display still looks fantastic and has nothing wrong with it, It is basically the display which came with the iPad 3 in March 2012. The 326dpi of the iPad mini is great and it would be really nice to have that DPI on the Air /9.7" model in 2016. 4K is just overkill and unnecessary though.

For me, apple pencil support, 256GB of storage and the A9X CPU would be fine upgrades indeed. The smart connector could be handy as well, although I'd like to see some better keyboard cases around first.

I still can't believe we accepted Apple not improving there iPad Air 2 display for 4 years.......that was really a cheap money grab for them.
 
People have to realize that the iPads are meant to be held.

reducing the thickness and weight is not as important to a desktop (and to a lesser degree a laptop), but for in iPad this is essential.

The iPad is already more than thin enough. I don't know anyone who has had an issues with the thinness of the Air or Air 2. Heck I know people who find the iPad 2 thin enough (myself included). A longer battery life would be great.

Given the Air 3 will sadly be replacing my iPad 2, I'd like an increase in ram, in graphics and processing power so I can get a long time out of it.

I agree whole-heartedly a 1000X. One of the biggest reasons why I haven't upgraded my iPad 2 from 2011 is because Apple hasn't increased the battery life since then. Yes, they've made the iPad more power efficient so it uses less power, but the runtime on the device (between charges) is less now than its high point 2 years ago when the Air1 was first introduced! My ipad2 gets nearly 10.5-11 hrs and the Air2, 4 years later is only roughly the same.

This is so true... I can get up to 18 hours out of my iPad 2. I know my father gets around 24 hours out of his (iOS 7). My brother (who is a lot younger than me) is lucky to get 10 hours out of his Air 1. My younger sister gets good battery out of her iPad 4. My theory is that to get down to the Air slimness a lot was sacrificed.
 
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I'm very happy with my iPad 2 air, my only reason to upgrade would be improved battery life.
 
More thinner? Please Apple no! We need more battery time not a sheet of paper! And I know a lot of people that don't buy an iPad because the lack of an USB port.

What would you even use a USB port for? There's no Finder or file system to move stuff around.

What the iPad needs is an OS that isn't a phone OS.
 
If Apple were to make a tablet running OS X, it wouldn't be named an iPad. iPad will always have iOS.

If ever they would come up with one, it would obviously be under Mac with a different name.
 
I don't understand why people "need" 4K on a small screen device. 4K on mobile devices is the new megapixel, where it has become a number on spec sheet for marketing purposes only. Retina is already great, and performance would be awesome with the A9X. I don't need extra resolution just to have a checkmark on paper.

I really wish for Apple pencil support. I was intrigued with the Apple pencil, but I think the iPP is just too big for my usage scenarios. It would be even more awesome if Apple trickle the feature all the way down to the iPad mini as I prefer the mini's form factor.
Yes. iPad air 3 with pencil and my ipp is going back b4 1/8/2016
 
Apple knows that iPad Air owners would love the pencil but I bet you anything this will be an ipad pro exclusive for a number of years just to keep the iPad pro sells up.
You have a point but I think that Apple didn't figure it out to use the pencil on a 3D touch screen.
 
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