iPad Air 3 to have OLED display

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    macguy360 macrumors 6502a

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    You heard it here first. The iPad Air 3 will have an OLED display.

    In CES 2016 the big news was the movement of laptops to OLED displays. Four different laptop manufacturers have started producing laptops which will feature OLED displays to be sold Q1 2016. Samsung in the major supplier of all four companies OLED display panels.

    Samsung already has had the technology for 10" OLED displays for the Samsung Galaxy Tab S and S2. The announcement at CES 2016 means that Samsung is now capable of producing 13"-15" OLED displays.

    We already know that Apple has been in talks with Samsung to bring OLED to iPhone, but what no one has mentioned is Apple bringing OLED to iPads. Jony Ive has already proclaimed that LCD screens feel very old. I believe that the holdup on the iPad Air release is due to utilizing OLED displays rather than the current LCD.

    Here are my primary reasons why
    1. There is no need to go thinner. The iPad Air 2 is already as thin as the device needs to be.
    2. There is no need for higher resolution. The iPad Air 2 is already retina and it is unlikely that the Air 3 will have a higher pixel density than the iPad pro because it would require a processor on par or better than what it is in the iPad Pro, thus taking away from the Pro being the best device.
    *Edit 3. Performance is already spectacular on the Air 2, thus there is no need to improve the performance as a main selling point for the next device.

    What else is left for improvements on the Air 3 to sell it as a better device than the Air 2, but not better than the Pro?
     
  2. Johnny365 macrumors regular

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    No need to improve the performance? Each successor (ipad, ipad mini, iphone) has increased performance in some way. I don't see why they would leave it from last year.
     
  3. macguy360 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Obviously performance will be increased, but that cannot be the main selling point at an Apple keynote for the iPad Air 3 as the Air 2 is already an extremely capable device. If Apple had a huge announcement just to say the iPad Air 3 is 30% more powerful, people would wonder what the real benefit of buying an iPad Air 3 would be.
     
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    I hope you're right! I'd like to see an OLED display in the iPad.
     
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    Just saying what you wrote here:

    3. Performance is already spectacular on the Air 2, thus there is no need to improve the performance.

    It would be nice if the ipads got OLED first, and then iphones in a few years.
     
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    I suspect it will be the other way around; I highly doubt that the iPad will feature OLED screens before the iPhone does. Since the iPhone 7 is rumored to still be sporting an LCD screen, I suspect the iPA3 will as well.
     
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    OLED has a short lifespan I don't think laptops will have OLED if they want to keep laptop longer than 5 years?
     
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    slightly shorter. the battery benefits,color and black levels outweigh any potentially reduced life of an oled panel
     
  9. Andres Cantu macrumors 68020

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    I think the iPad Air 3 is more likely to have a "Retina HD" display than an OLED display. The iPhone won't be getting it until 2018, and I would expect the iPad to get it sometime after that (2019 or 2020).
     
  10. appleguy123, Jan 16, 2016
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    All retina iPads have had Retina HD displays. Apple started that distinction with the iPhone 6 and 6+ because those retina displays were the first iPhone displays to get to 720p and 1080p resolutions, respectively.

    I'm not sure if Apple marketed the iPad Air 2 as having dual domain pixels like the iPhone , but I just checked it under a microscope and it does.
     
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    Sorry, what I meant was that I believe Apple would market a higher resolution display in the iPad Air 3 as "Retina HD" even though the current one already has a higher resolution than the iPhones.

    It might not make complete sense, but neither does "Retina HD" for both 750p and 1080p displays.
     
  12. lchlch macrumors 6502a

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    Contrary to common perception, OLED is only more efficient when they scene is entirely or mostly black. Otherwise it is less efficient than lcds.

    As proof, look just look at the new laptops with OLED screens. The rated battery life is actually lower than their lcd counterparts.
     
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    all OLED (oled, amoled, super amoled, etc) benefits from having more black on screen (like during movies) because the black areas have the pixels off, thus better battery life. Web browsing would theoretically be worse with an OLED-type screen.
     
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    A faster brighter air 3 would seal the deal over an iPP for me. I have the IPP bug BAD
     
  15. Closingracer macrumors 68000

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    Apple would be smart to add OLED displays in Laptops lol. Apple knows how to make money and they will make even more by having their laptops screens dying on customers even faster :)

    Even if they don't charging to fix the screens is easy money for Apple than.
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    there is really only two types of OLED screens.... PMOLED or AMOLED. Super AMOLED is a Samsung marketing term. Samsung also had Super AMOLED Plus screens. IF Apple goes with OLED I will bet on it being AMOLED or Active Matrix organic light emitting diodes vs PMOLED which is passive. I think to date only one handheld device has used PMOLED which I believe was the LG Flex ( I am 75% it is that device but it was a LG device). Apple does use AMOLED for their watch so thats another thing for AMOLED.


    Honestly I am all for AMOLED screens since I prefer them but the IPS panels Apple uses in their devices like the Macbook pro and iPhones/iPad's are really good with the exception of the minor light bleeding I see with them. Web browsing is fine with AMOLED screens with my experience with the various Samsung devices I have used like the Note 4 and Tab S 10.5 which were the last ones. Key with Apple would be securing Samsung's top of the line panels vs their previous get panels which other companies have used like Motorola with the Nexus 6, Moto X and Verizon Droid Turbo ( 1st one idk about 2nd one which both are a Motorola device)
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    with phones and tablets? Between Android devices the devices with AMOLED panels in my experience always lasted longer than the LCD panel devices. This is my experience with the Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 ( Super AMOLED), Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition ( LCD) and Nexus 7 2013 ( LCD).


    And as far as laptops goes what counterparts? Unless they have a device with the SAME exact specs made by the SAME manufacture but with different panels at the same res than your comparing apples with oranges.
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    Retina HD? The iPad 3,4,Air and Air 2 already have HD screens... it is a sub 2k res. With Apple going thinner and no new battery technology it would be impossible to have the 10 hour battery life and a sub 4k screen.
     
  16. lchlch macrumors 6502a

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    Other factor may have caused the discrepancies in battery life.

    Lenovo X1 yoga. Available in both lcd and OLED. Same manufacturer, same specs but different battery life.
     
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    The iPhone 3G didn't have improved performance over the iPhone. They have the same processor. And the third gen iPad has the same CPU as the iPad 2. It just got a better GPU for the retina display.
     
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    They could bring the pixel density of 9.7" up to the level of 7.9", and increase the effective screen canvas on top of all the works that have been done for iPad Pro in the past few months. The resulting canvas should still be smaller than the 12.9-inch iPad Pro, though.
     
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  20. Closingracer macrumors 68000

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    Increasing res will decrease battery life with the same cpu and battery....
     
  21. snow755 macrumors 6502a

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    Have you not been watching the news ? The air line may be done. It now could be called iPad pro
     
  22. stevemiller macrumors 65816

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    its a nice dream, but it won't happen.

    the upgrades we are going to see march 21st have pretty much all leaked out:

    -a9x (probably slightly slower clocked than iPP)
    -rear flash
    -4 speakers
    -accessory connector for keyboard
    -pencil support

    if anything at all happens to the display, it would be the resolution bump that has been tossed around. but i'm going to go ahead and say that won't happen either. the pro is a brand new screen size. if they were going to set a new ipad pixel density standard that's where they would have done it, not on its little brother 6 months later.
     
  23. stulaw11 macrumors 65816

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    Here's the logical reasons why it's not, at least for right now. Pencil. They want to sell $100 Apple Pencils to everyone who will buy one (same with the typecover but unrelated to the screen). So it's not shocking all rumors have the iPad 3 being a mini Pro basically. That's $100-230 of extra accessory sales per iPad; or in some cases one or the other at least. I know if I get an iPad 3 I will want a keyboard for it.

    But to the topic, i dont think OLED are ready to work with the levels of pressure sensitivity yet that the pencil requires. The iPad also already gives top of the line tablet battery life as is.

    I also think you'll see OLED being implemented from smaller devices up; since smaller screens are much easier to manufacture with a new tech- so watch (which has it already), iphone, and then ipad.
     
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    No oled in any ipad or macbook before iphone
    So hopes are for 2018
     

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