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iPad Mini retina will outpace iPad Air. :cool:

Would really doubt that. Nothing to do with how popular the two devices are but I'd be amazed if the Mini had the same availability as the Air at launch. Can't outpace the Air if there aren't enough to buy...
 
I bet iPad Mini w/Retina Display will see a much higher adoption rate.

It is the biggest upgrade for an iPad in 2 direct iteration. It's going from totally sucks (A5) to incredibly fast (A7) in just one year.

But yeah I think the A7 on Mini will be slightly underclocked compared to the one in iPad Air. Plus the Mini also has much smaller battery meaning the Air wins endurance contest.

To me those things alone worth the extra $100. But of course I love bigger screen and weight reduction is awesome too.

Tough choices between the two, nonetheless.
Why do you think it will be underclocked?
 
Had a look at one today, and was not as excited as I hoped I would be.
Firstly it didn't feel that much lighter compared to my iPad 2.

Secondly it still ran warm, which is a put off.
As my iPad 2 has always run cool.

But the real deciding point was IOS 7. I realised that while I have always liked the hardware design of apple products, it has been the OS that has always been the deciding factor. Unfortunately IOS 7 is littered with design issues effecting the human interface and just as many under the hood so to speak.


I don't want to go to android as it won't work seamless with all my other apple products. But IOS 7 is a joke.
 
I couldn't justify purchasing an iPad Air to replace my iPad 3 given that functionally it doesn't do anything more for my purposes. However once I actually held an air, I couldn't resist.

Same for me.. I am using both 1st gen and 3rd gen (for me and my family), After holding that, Yes. I need an upgrade. I think it's pretty obvious for the difference in weight compared to any previous iPads.

More interesting, when compared with iPad Mini (Not Retina yet), I found that the iPad Air is not that heavy as expected.

Problem is I am looking a 64/128G which is out of stock.

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Why do you think it will be underclocked?

Actually I wondered it will clock like iPhone 5S (1.3G) rather than the iPad Air (1.4G), as the Mini will hold smaller battery while running a Retina screen. Same frequency may shorten its battery life.

Anyway, let's see.
 
do you see mr apple consumer ? Choice is good :)

i hope the iPhones get the same treatment : 2 screen sizes.

I love my 5s but guess some people might want a bigger screen.
 
I'm sure it's selling well. But how many people purchased launch day, or launch weekend iPad 4's considering the iPad 3 was launched only a few months earlier?
 
iPad Mini retina will outpace iPad Air. :cool:

I don't think so. A7 will prob have the same MHz as the iphone and not the extra 100 I believe the iPad Air has. In the end they will all perform more or less the same. We shall see the truth come end of November.

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Why do you think it will be underclocked?

Because of the battery. I bet is going to be the same as the 5S for the mini.

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Really, someone named Tim Cooke is going to send people checks? Cool.

That is how scams usually work
 
I bet iPad Mini w/Retina Display will see a much higher adoption rate.


I think there’s going to be some “external” constraints, just like this post suggests:

I bet it won't considering it's pretty much a fact that supply of the 7.9" displays will be severely constrained.




...but outside of that, I think the Mini lost a bit of its major advantage (size and weight) with the new Air, though that being said, I believe there were quite a few potential buyers that skipped the Gen 1 because of the display and SOC (I was one).


Tim Cooke wants to know where to send the check?

Larry just assumes to send yours to the usual location. :D

(That’s Larry Pagee BTW ...)

Why do you think it will be underclocked?

Yeah, we know the rMini has gained a touch of size and weight, so I’m assuming that’s for battery room. So was that enough to maintain the previous gen’s battery life with the A7 at the Air clock[?] It seems like Apple has made a huge point of creating parity across the two iPad model variants this time around, so I’d say the answer is yes, the size increase handles the additional power needs and the rMini A7 is the same clock as the Air. I guess we’ll know for sure “later” this month :)

One thing I don’t believe is even slightly possible, and that’s less than 1GB RAM for the rMini, I know we don’t know 100%, but it would be a bizarre engineering and business choice to consolidate high end SoCs to a single model, but make an underpowered variant.
 
Bloomberg is saying today that the iPad Air is not selling well. This article on AI suggests the exact opposite.

Having seen the IPad Air I confidently predict it will be the best selling full sized iPad ever.

As with phones, the media misinterprets the lowered Apple marketshare right before a launch as softening demand

What it truly represents is pent up demand.

As suggested here already the only limiting factor to stellar iPad Mini and iPhone 5S sales is manufacturing capacity.

You can't sell what you can't make quickly enough.

What a great problem for Apple!
 
I'm wondering if they take into account all the returned iPad Airs when doing their statistics.
 
Had a look at one today, and was not as excited as I hoped I would be.
Firstly it didn't feel that much lighter compared to my iPad 2.

Secondly it still ran warm, which is a put off.
As my iPad 2 has always run cool.

My iPad Air runs cool. Hasn't warmed up at all after a weekend of playing with it. Maybe for my uses it doesn't? My iPad 1 never warmed up either.

The iPad Air is an incredible upgrade for non-iPad users and iPad 1 users. It's an okay upgrade for iPad 2 and 3 owners, but iPad 4 users should sit back and wait for the next upgrade. Unless, of course, the lower weight really matters enough to spend all the money.
 
I'm seeing a trend where people like/adopt faster when the products get lighter.

The MacBook Air is super popular not just for its size, but for its weight. The iPad Air seems to be headed in the same direction.

Now if only Apple would make the rMBPs a little lighter.

I like the direction this is headed. Apple used to be obsessed with slim. They still are to an extent, but I would suggest that they are also obsessed with weight reduction too these days.
 
I'm wondering if they take into account all the returned iPad Airs when doing their statistics.

Highly unlikely.

Also, one cannot compare the mini and the Air now because the mini hasn't been stocked like the Air has been.
 
I am glad I bought iPad Air

I wasn't sure the iPad Air is for me and was going to wait for iPad Mini w/Retina. When I was in the store, I did not feel that much different from the iPad (3) that I own. Yet, I decided to give a try anyway knowing that I can return it if not liking it.

What a huge surprise after I start playing with it, it is an amazing upgrade. It feels so small and so light that I know I will carry it everywhere. The screen size just right for my age (65) when compare with iPad Mini.
 
Personally waiting for the Retina Mini. Went to check out the iPad Air and wasn't impressed with the weight enough to change my mind from the Mini. Yes it's lighter than my iPad 2 that I sold couple weeks ago but it still feels like someone just ripped a small notebook screen off and started using it as a tablet, just slightly too big. I think I've just gotten really comfortable with using the girlfriends Mini over the last few weeks.

Mini to me just feels right, sort of like how a 13" MacBook is the sweet spot for me compared to the Air feeling like a 15" MacBook.
 
Of course it has better adoption rate than the iPad 4. That thing came out about half year after the iPad 3.

Yeah, the 4 was bit of a kick-in-the-ribs. It's an excellent product, and I upgraded from a 3 to a 4, but that shortened cycle made a lot of buyers hold off for the next [this] model.

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Personally waiting for the Retina Mini. Went to check out the iPad Air and wasn't impressed with the weight enough to change my mind from the Mini. Yes it's lighter than my iPad 2 that I sold couple weeks ago but it still feels like someone just ripped a small notebook screen off and started using it as a tablet, just slightly too big. I think I've just gotten really comfortable with using the girlfriends Mini over the last few weeks.

Mini to me just feels right, sort of like how a 13" MacBook is the sweet spot for me compared to the Air feeling like a 15" MacBook.

I love the Mini form factor, and while I haven’t had any actual hands-on with the new Air, I _feel_ like I’m in the same boat as you, that the Mini is still a good bit lighter, smaller, and that with the new display (that’s a higher PPI than the Air), and the up-to-date SoC, it’ll be just about perfect (even if it got a little chubbier ... but we all tend to pick up a few pounds around Nov/Dec :D )
 
I'm glad the ipad Air is selling so well...but I still plan to upgrade to a retina mini from my first gen mini. It has the exact same specs as the ipad Air. I just prefer the smaller size. It's more portable. For me, it's the perfect size for travel.
 
Not surprised; when the iPad 4 was released, a bunch of people had just bought the recently-released iPad 3.
 
And water is wet, obviously is will outpace the iPad 4, it came out 6 months after millions updated to the iPad 3
 
I held an iPad Air for the first time today in a Telstra store and immediately any doubts I had about the product vanished. It was super smooth using it, incredibly light and my hand didn't get sore holding it. It was sitting beside some Android-based tablets. I put the iPad Air down and started using one and audibly laughed at how clunky, slow and unnatural it felt in comparison.

My wife and I were both considering iPad mini retinas this time around to replace our aging 3rd generation iPads, but with the same specs, and new form factor we decided to get iPad airs. we are not disappointed with our choice, they are delightful to use, and all of the apps are noticeable faster. iOS 7 also doesn't crash/restart constantly like it did on the 3rd gen iPads..

It was nice to be able to walk into the apple store and walk out with exactly what models we wanted without having to wait weeks for them to be readily available.
 
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