This has been obviously needed since the original iPad Pro came out. I guess people don't know what they want until Apple waits seven years to show it to them.
This is 100% correct.When the new base iPad launched with only gen 1 (USB-C) pencil support people kept saying that the reason the gen 2 pencil with magnetic charging wasn't supported was because the landscape camera got in the way of that charger.
Apple can put a magnetically charging Pencil on top ONLY with a new magnetic Pencil and pencil charging design; probably two smaller magnets on either side. Maybe Apple waited, or maybe the new charging design wasn't ready in time for the iPad 10.Maybe now those people will finally acknowledge that Apple can put the pencil charger on the top, like they always could have with the base iPad.
Maybe this is somehow related to the new Apple Pencil we’re expecting this month?How Apple has achieved this switch to a landscape FaceTime camera on the new iPad models is unclear, since the second-generation Apple Pencil connects to both the iPad Air and iPad Pro using an inductive magnetic charger along the same side.
Exactly. The notch looks stupid as hell. I’m waiting for the MacBooks to change design before I buy another.Please no notch. I would rather have a slightly thicker border.
Not even close. I use my iPad Pro 12.9 about 90% at work and 100% of the time for personal use and it is much more than a big phone.cool but it's still a big iphone.
No one I interacted with said that, and there were so many people saying it wasn't possible. They were just people that can't acknowledge something until Apple does it.Yes they can, and yes they did, but as predicted, it required a Pencil redesign.
It does makes sense. Add both.Sad if true. One of the iPad’s biggest strengths is that it’s truly versatile when it comes to orientation. Ideally, we would have cameras in both positions - but obviously this doesn’t make any sense in the real world.
The notch makes a lot of sense on the iPhone and Mac, which have a clear main orientation (specially the later). It wouldn’t work at all on the iPad, that doesn’t have a clear main one.Please no notch. I would rather have a slightly thicker border.
Space is precious (specially in such a small device). There’s little benefit and big negative impact. Also costs.It does makes sense. Add both.
Why down-voting? People hate to admit the fact after all.cool but it's still a big iphone.
I think "they cant do it" implies "with the Pencil 2", not "they cant do it at all".No one I interacted with said that, and there were so many people saying it wasn't possible. They were just people that can't acknowledge something until Apple does it.
We're not going to know for sure until the new iPads get a landscape camera, but I suspect they tried using the Pencil 2 on the iPad 10 and there were either interference or internal spacing issues between the camera and charging pad which needed to be addressed.The pencil doesn't need a redesign to fit on top, even if Apple is releasing a better one. If that was true, the iPad mini wouldn't support it now. Space is just as limited on the mini's long side as the larger iPads short side.
We're not going to know for sure until the new iPads get a landscape camera, but I suspect they tried using the Pencil 2 on the iPad 10 and there were either interference or spacing issues which needed to be addressed.
Then again, if they had included it they could sell the more expensive pencil without having the costs associated with designing the USB Pencil.It wasn't included for cost reasons. We can never verify it because we'll only ever get the narrative Apple wants to tell, and they'll never say it was to protect their margins. I looked at teardowns at the time, Apple definitely could have configured components in a way to accommodate it.
Cost is a valid reason to exclude something but I'm not a a fan of Apple's endless pursuit of margins at the expense of the user experience, nor those who defend it. The continued fragmentation of the Apple pencil lineup was unnecessary. Hopefully this new pencil and updated iPads puts an end to it.
No problem. We're all just speculating until the new iPads are real.Edit: sorry, I didn't mean to outright dismiss your suggestions (especially the interference one) as you actually put some thought into it. I don't know if they did that, but I imagine those would be solvable problems if they really wanted to accommodate the gen 2 pencil.
Then again, if they had included it they could sell the more expensive pencil without having the costs associated with designing the USB Pencil.
I was looking at the Osmo stuff and their compatibility isn't based on camera orientation, they also support the iPad-10, but rather iPad design. The updated reflector is for any non-homebutton iPad, but that reflector supports iPad with both types of cameras. The updated reflector is $10 and it may be necessary for the shape and thickness of the non-home button iPads.One problem I've had with landscape cameras, at least in an elementary school setting, is that we often use those Osmo game things, which requires a mirror to be placed over the camera so it can see what's in front of the iPad. Osmo was designed for portrait mode cameras, so we'd have to to spend a whole bunch of money buying new versions of Osmo. I wouldn't be surprised if other apps have similar issues. Kinda like going from the original 40 pin connector > Lightning and now > USB-C