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Pretty embarrassing that Apple still charges a $130 premium for the 4G versions of the iPad, considering the part only costs about $30. I understand they love their margins and charge an "Apple tax", but charging an extra $130 just for the ability to then pay for cellular service is ridiculous. They should charge an extra $50 at most; I'd even accept $100 though. $130 is just crazy.

In fact, Apple should just throw us a bone and make every iPad capable of a cellular connection. There shouldn't even be Wifi and Wifi+4G models, there should just be one model that has everything, and priced at the current Wifi model levels. This would make up for the fact that their margins on the flash memory are even more disgusting. Of course, I don't actually expect them to ever do this.
 
That's almost $300 without the labor of building it. My colleague in the first post thinks it's pretty ridiculous of Apple to charge so much for the 16GB but at already close to $300 without labor, R&D and advertising what do you expect Apple to do to make a profit? Would I love for it to be cheaper? Surely, but at the end of the day it's business and you don't have to buy, just remember that.

Not to forget the software plus 1 year Apple care, free upgrade and all around great support....
 
Then they should reduce the price by 13%.

In the end they would still earn more anyways!

Time for apple to show some good-will after everything they have put us through the last 24 months.

:eek: What did they do over the past 24 months?
 
Maybe you could bother enlightening us about why a 400% markup for LTE is reasonable instead of insulting people?

Stop buying Apple products if you believe the pricing structure is unreasonable.
 
Would have been nice to pass on a portion of the savings if there are any.

Just because the parts are cheaper doesn't mean the overall manufactering cost are lower.
 
Coca-Cola is just sugar, flavoring and water.

It costs about 5 cents in materials to make a 2-liter. They sell it for between $1 and $2.

That's a 1,000-2,000% markup. Where are the articles on this? :rolleyes:

Thank you! One of my favorite projects was with one of the top 5 beverage companies, and I had the chance to take a closer look at the art and science that goes behind products that people take forgranted!
 
Pretty embarrassing that Apple still charges a $130 premium for the 4G versions of the iPad, considering the part only costs about $30. I understand they love their margins and charge an "Apple tax", but charging an extra $130 just for the ability to then pay for cellular service is ridiculous. They should charge an extra $50 at most; I'd even accept $100 though. $130 is just crazy.

In fact, Apple should just throw us a bone and make every iPad capable of a cellular connection. There shouldn't even be Wifi and Wifi+4G models, there should just be one model that has everything, and priced at the current Wifi model levels. This would make up for the fact that their margins on the flash memory are even more disgusting. Of course, I don't actually expect them to ever do this.

Do you know how much a pair of Nike's cost to make? Or any brand name t-shirt and jeans?

Google also is making enough profits that they don't need to be shoving ads down our throats every second. But they do, they are a business, not a charity.

Or Microsoft charging $100+ for a CD worth less than $1.
 
Anyone who spends 2 seconds clicking on yahoo finance can see their margins are 22%

I'm speaking specifically about the iPad air which retails for $499 but has a BOM cost of $274.


$499 for that product given what it costs to build... Apple is making peanuts on each unit. If you think you are getting ripped off buying an iPad air for $499, don't ask about the BOM cost of the garden variety audio electronics you buy at Best Buy. Or the manufacturer cost for furniture.
 
Pretty embarrassing that Apple still charges a $130 premium for the 4G versions of the iPad, considering the part only costs about $30. I understand they love their margins and charge an "Apple tax", but charging an extra $130 just for the ability to then pay for cellular service is ridiculous. They should charge an extra $50 at most; I'd even accept $100 though. $130 is just crazy.

In fact, Apple should just throw us a bone and make every iPad capable of a cellular connection. There shouldn't even be Wifi and Wifi+4G models, there should just be one model that has everything, and priced at the current Wifi model levels. This would make up for the fact that their margins on the flash memory are even more disgusting. Of course, I don't actually expect them to ever do this.

The $130 extra for cellular connection, just like the $100 extra for 16, 32, or 64 GB of SSD is all part of the overall balance. Just like any company with a retail line Apple has a whole department responsible for pricing and margins, they do volume forecast and predict how much each SKU is likely to sell, and no they don't have a fixed margin on every device, margins vary between SKUs.

Let me put if for you this way: If Apple decides to charge only $50 extra for Cell version, and maybe $50 extra for extra memory, then the 16 GB wifi model price will shoot up.
 
Then they should reduce the price by 13%.

In the end they would still earn more anyways!

Time for apple to show some good-will after everything they have put us through the last 24 months.

What did Apple put you through?

If you feel like Apple is mistreating you, your best bet is to tell them buy taking your money elsewhere. You shouldn't reward a company's bad behavior by giving them your money.
 
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It's pretty ridiculous that Apple still charges $500 for the 16GB base model. Should be at least 32GB.

I'm not surprised that the thing is cheaper. The 3rd gen was pushing the limits on what you could do at the time with a giant battery and brand-new display tech. The iPad Air has many of the same components: 5MP camera, same screen resolution, same amount of RAM, same storage capacities. It's probably a big reason why they could make the Retina Mini for $100 less. The Air helps subsidize it.

Your comment shows a complete lack of business understanding. The cost of something is not just the cost of the components. It needs to reflect the expenses of the whole company to create this item - everything from R&D, infrastructure, salaries, and even rent for your business. While the item (iPad) theoretically could be cheaper, if you want to make a profit it needs to be way higher than the cost of the components. If you're model is to be a loss leader that's a different thing, then you hope to make it up some other way. Apple, like most every other company, creates a product to make a profit from sales.

As other people here have stated, you can look at most any company and see much higher mark-ups. Look at the markup on say pasta at restaurants. Then you'll see how your complaint shows a lack of understanding.
 
I wish a journalist would ask Tim Cook why they charge so much for iphone/iPad storage and LTE. Apple - and every profitable company - deserve a profit, but those components get like a 10x markup.

They charge $100 for 16 GB and $129 for LTE. Google charges about half that. I think the iPad starting prices are fair, but those upgrades are just sky high. It's as if they're saying "cuz we can". Unfortunately for consumers, there's not much tablet competition at the high end. No downward pressure.

Sounds like you answered your own question.

Your beef should't be with Apple. Your beef should be with the other tablet vendors that are not offering you an acceptable choice.
 
It's the same device since the first iPad. Only thing change is it's speed, and the CPU costs seem to stay the same every year.

Really, it's the same as the first iPad. It is a good thing that you are here to set the record straight :rolleyes: It is such a shame that Apple did not hire you as their CEO because you certainly would have priced the iPad *right* and made sure that the stock holders are happy and made sure that Apple had enough profit after R&D, packaging, etc.

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Do you know how much a pair of Nike's cost to make? Or any brand name t-shirt and jeans?

Google also is making enough profits that they don't need to be shoving ads down our throats every second. But they do, they are a business, not a charity.

Or Microsoft charging $100+ for a CD worth less than $1.

It is such an unfair world we line it. Companies actually charging what the market is willing to pay.
 
Pretty embarrassing that Apple still charges a $130 premium for the 4G versions of the iPad, considering the part only costs about $30. I understand they love their margins and charge an "Apple tax", but charging an extra $130 just for the ability to then pay for cellular service is ridiculous. They should charge an extra $50 at most; I'd even accept $100 though. $130 is just crazy.

In fact, Apple should just throw us a bone and make every iPad capable of a cellular connection. There shouldn't even be Wifi and Wifi+4G models, there should just be one model that has everything, and priced at the current Wifi model levels. This would make up for the fact that their margins on the flash memory are even more disgusting. Of course, I don't actually expect them to ever do this.

I heard Apple has to pay FCC fees and other licensing fees for anything with a cellular radio.

So maybe that's why they charge an extra $130 for the 4G iPads.

It's not just the $30 part... it's all the other stuff they need to do.
 
Stop buying Apple products if you believe the pricing structure is unreasonable.

This. People act like Apple is holding a gun to their head to buy their products. Don't like the prices don't buy it. And before anyone says it, having a large investment in the Apple eco-system is not the same thing as being forced to buy Apple products.
 
What innovation and research. It's the same device since the first iPad. Only thing change is it's speed, and the CPU costs seem to stay the same every year. Still, the cellular versions are WAYYY overpriced. Don't get me started on the extra $100 every time I want to double my capacity for something that costs them $15.


If you have your heart set on an iPad and are unwilling to pay for the latest incarnation due to the lack of innovation, I have a generation 1 iPad I am happy to sell for $250 - half the price of the latest version. (Ready to put your money where you mouth is?)
 
Would have been nice to pass on a portion of the savings if there are any.

They are in the form of putting the money back into R&D and new projects.

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In fact, Apple should just throw us a bone and make every iPad capable of a cellular connection. There shouldn't even be Wifi and Wifi+4G models, there should just be one model that has everything, and priced at the current Wifi model levels. This would make up for the fact that their margins on the flash memory are even more disgusting. Of course, I don't actually expect them to ever do this.

So you are saying that you want Apple to price the base model which would be a 16GB WiFi+LTE iPad Air starting at $629 because that is what you are asking them to do. Apple charges what the market is willing to pay, simple as that. We all vote with our dollars.
 
In fact, Apple should just throw us a bone and make every iPad capable of a cellular connection. There shouldn't even be Wifi and Wifi+4G models, there should just be one model that has everything, and priced at the current Wifi model levels. This would make up for the fact that their margins on the flash memory are even more disgusting. Of course, I don't actually expect them to ever do this.

You set the bar pretty low. If you are making wishes, you should go big. Like maybe Apple should be paying us to own and use their products.
 
If you have your heart set on an iPad and are unwilling to pay for the latest incarnation due to the lack of innovation, I have a generation 1 iPad I am happy to sell for $250 - half the price of the latest version. (Ready to put your money where you mouth is?)

I have an iPad 4, so why would I want that? So in other words, tell me how the experience of getting the iPad Air compares to the iPad 4? Oh, that's right nothing. The experience is the same on both devices. If you call making a computing device faster "innovation", then you delusional. Computers getting faster is standard procedure we already expect. If anything, the iPad Air more efficient.
 
this doesnt really include the following:
assembly costs
shipping costs
research and development costs
licensing fees (to use certain patents etc)
marketing
etc..

There is still a huge margin but not as much as state here.


Still blows my mind they didnt put in 2 gb of ram when it would only be a few $ more but think about it $5 x 10million devices. Plus when they upgrade it next year they can use it as a selling point.
 
So according to this report, 16GB of RAM is approx $9 and 128GB is $60, a difference of $51. Apple has the gall to charge a $249 markup, and most gladly pay it. We are indeed sheep for the slaughter.

I think you're looking at it wrong, they aren't charging a $249 markup for 128gb, they are discounting the price of the lower storage options, taking a hit on the unit profit, and planning for the numbers to shake out positively in the end.

So really, the buyers of the 128gb version should be upset because they are actually subsidizing the base model "cheapskates". :D
 
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