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Yep this is exactly what I did. It’s a feature I was unsure is available on the iPad, or do people without a computer forego this ability?

I did a search for backing up iPhone to iPad, and it doesn't appear to be possible. I mean, you can send selective stuff wirelessly to your devices, but not a full backup. And yes, if you don't have a Mac or PC, the only option you have is the cloud. Would be really nice imo if Apple would make it possible to backup your phone to the iPad. If there is a way, I just haven't found it yet.
 
Yep this is exactly what I did. It’s a feature I was unsure is available on the iPad, or do people without a computer forego this ability?
Yeah, iPadOS doesn’t currently support this. If you’re using an iPad as only computer on hand, then iCloud is the way to go for device backups. 👍🏻
 
I did a search for backing up iPhone to iPad, and it doesn't appear to be possible. I mean, you can send selective stuff wirelessly to your devices, but not a full backup. And yes, if you don't have a Mac or PC, the only option you have is the cloud. Would be really nice imo if Apple would make it possible to backup your phone to the iPad. If there is a way, I just haven't found it yet.

Yeah, iPadOS doesn’t currently support this. If you’re using an iPad as only computer on hand, then iCloud is the way to go for device backups. 👍🏻

Thanks both, that’s what I thought. No worries for me though as I have an iMac and MacBook Air (my last job let me buy it for an absolute steal!) but stuff like that I think would help to make the iPad a genuinely viable replacement
 
Thanks both, that’s what I thought. No worries for me though as I have an iMac and MacBook Air (my last job let me buy it for an absolute steal!) but stuff like that I think would help to make the iPad a genuinely viable replacement
Absolutely. 👍🏻. I’m hoping they will add it in the future. 👍🏻. But yeah, for now, you can save local backups on a Mac or Windows PC via iTunes or Apple Devices app I think. But yeah, would definitely be better to be able to save local backups on iPad of other devices. 👍🏻

I do have a M1 Mac Mini on hand, so sometimes I use it for saving local backups of devices, but ever since I increased my iCloud storage, I use iCloud for my device backups, so I don’t do that often anymore except for running betas. But since I’m using my Mac Mini plus some connected drives as my own “private cloud” storage solution for backing up project files and such, it works pretty well that way. So I’m not an iPad-only user, but I am definitely an iPad-primary user, as I rarely ever use my Mac Mini for anything other than that “private cloud” storage setup. 👍🏻
 
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Thanks both, that’s what I thought. No worries for me though as I have an iMac and MacBook Air (my last job let me buy it for an absolute steal!) but stuff like that I think would help to make the iPad a genuinely viable replacement

The downside would be the amount of *pricey* storage it would take up - unless Apple supported making the backup to attached storage.
 
The downside would be the amount of *pricey* storage it would take up - unless Apple supported making the backup to attached storage.
Couldn’t it be moved to attached storage? In my case I only needed it temporarily so could delete it right after anyway, but it seems like a viable solution for someone who has that issue to just move them to an external drive if storage was a premium on the iPad.
 
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Couldn’t it be moved to attached storage? In my case I only needed it temporarily so could delete it right after anyway, but it seems like a viable solution for someone who has that issue to just move them to an external drive if storage was a premium on the iPad.

It could only be moved if Apple made it accessible for transfers.
 
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They absolutely ARE the fault of Microsoft. Even if we were to assume your premise, and assume that iPadOS is limiting them so much (which I’ve seen developers/coders say ISN’T the case), there is obviously nothing preventing Microsoft from supporting basic features like custom document templates, inserting images into documents from OneDrive or Files, precise alignment tools for page items like images, more file export support, etc… These are all present in other apps on iPadOS, and in many cases, even other Microsoft apps on iPadOS! For example, OneNote has options for inserting images from Files and OneDrive. So no, at the very least, the majority of these basic features that are missing from MS Office apps on iPadOS are 100% Microsoft’s fault…

Also, if Microsoft couldn’t deliver more full-fledged apps due to limitations of iPadOS, then I’m sure they would be telling people so and blame-shifting on Apple in the feedback forums like many other software companies lie when they simply don’t want to deliver some feature, and so blame Apple. But they don’t, they’re actually pretty open about the fact that they want to keep the iPad and Android versions of the apps a “light, primarily document viewing” experience… They aren’t like “man, I wish we could do that, but Apple just won’t let us with iPadOS”, or any of the similar such drivel that some of these developers use as an excuse (because, yes, much of the time, it is only a lie and an excuse, because these features are completely possible to implement on iPadOS within apps)…

Also, if their goal weren’t to push for Windows and Surface Pro lock-in, then the web versions could be far more full-featured and capable. There is zero reason the web versions would be so hobbled if this were just about iPadOS and not Microsoft’s very intentional and anti-customer strategy to push Windows lock-in, and try to artificially prevent other tablets from competing with their Surface crap…

This is 100% on Microsoft and nobody else. Period.

Excel is the deal breaker for me with the iPad.

I don’t do anything complex these days… but opening our bank statement with no formulas is very very laggy when scrolling..

It just annoys me and makes me pick up the Mac.

Having said that I’ve handed iPad Pro m1 with Magic Keyboard to my wife for her business and I miss it more than I thought..

I was pricing up new models and can’t believe how expensive they are and also can’t believe I paid that initially MacBook Pro territory

I’m still undecided! Will leave it up to Santa
 
Excel is the deal breaker for me with the iPad.

I don’t do anything complex these days… but opening our bank statement with no formulas is very very laggy when scrolling..

It just annoys me and makes me pick up the Mac.

Having said that I’ve handed iPad Pro m1 with Magic Keyboard to my wife for her business and I miss it more than I thought..

I was pricing up new models and can’t believe how expensive they are and also can’t believe I paid that initially MacBook Pro territory

I’m still undecided! Will leave it up to Santa

My iPad Pro has essentially replaced my laptop. But I still have a desktop and perform different tasks on each device according to their strengths and capabilities. I view them as tools in a toolbox, picking the appropriate tool for the job at hand and they complement each other well. It's like having a ball peen hammer and a claw hammer - both pound nails well but the claw hammer is terrible at peening and the ball peen can't pull nails. They're both useful to have.
 
My iPad Pro has essentially replaced my laptop. But I still have a desktop and perform different tasks on each device according to their strengths and capabilities.
This has been what I have settled on. My 13" iPad Pro has replaced my MBP but there are a lot of things I do on my Mac Studio that are just not possible on my iPad: development, a few games I play using Crossover, some desktop apps that aren't gimped, and some music apps that aren't available on iPadOS.
 
My iPad Pro has essentially replaced my laptop. But I still have a desktop and perform different tasks on each device according to their strengths and capabilities. I view them as tools in a toolbox, picking the appropriate tool for the job at hand and they complement each other well. It's like having a ball peen hammer and a claw hammer - both pound nails well but the claw hammer is terrible at peening and the ball peen can't pull nails. They're both useful to have.

Sounds like my story with my iPad Pro, Mac Mini, and Mini PC. iPad Pro replaced my MBP for mobile almost 4 years ago, and my minicomputers cover everything else. Definitely complimentary tools. I still think that the iPad Pro is Apple's most flexible device ever. It can do most of what a PC/Mac can do, and some things they can't. I can definitively say that my iPad Pro is my favorite Apple device, followed in order by iPhone(best pocket computer ever), Mac/Mini PC, and my Apple watch(best wearable ever). Also very fond of my AirPod Pros 2. I'm really liking iOS/iPad OS a lot. Waited a long time for its features.
 
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Oh, iOS backups aren’t able to be moved?

I think what @sparksd means is, even if Apple made it possible to back up iPhone to iPad, it might be stored in a place files doesn’t have access to. The “Files” app is a great app and I’m glad Apple gave it to iPad OS, but it just can’t go as many places as “Finder” or “Windows Explorer”.

Edit: Shoot, you beat me to it😊

Edit 2: Forgot to mention as much as I like the "Files" app, I have an app called "FileBrowser Pro" that I like even better for file management. It is more feature rich than the "Files" app, but still not as extensive as Finder and Windows Explorer. I am hoping someday that Apple opens up more access to the iPad's file system.
 
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I think what @sparksd means is, even if Apple made it possible to back up iPhone to iPad, it might be stored in a place files doesn’t have access to. The “Files” app is a great app and I’m glad Apple gave it to iPad OS, but it just can’t go as many places as “Finder” or “Windows Explorer”.

Edit: Shoot, you beat me to it😊

Edit 2: Forgot to mention as much as I like the "Files" app, I have an app called "FileBrowser Pro" that I like even better for file management. It is more feature rich than the "Files" app, but still not as extensive as Finder and Windows Explorer. I am hoping someday that Apple opens up more access to the iPad's file system.
That’s true, though thinking about it, if they added Time Machine as an app on the iPad/iPhone, local backups of iPad (or from a connected iPhone) could probably be accessed via the Time Machine app folder in the Files app under “On My iPad”. 👍🏻

I agree, it would be good if more of the file system were opened, though maybe it should be something you have to toggle in Settings, that way people don’t inadvertently mess up system files and corrupt the entire system, and so that apps couldn’t access them to hack and corrupt the system either. 👍🏻. Personally, I can’t think of a single time I have ever wanted or needed to access system-level files on my Mac. But I see how it could possibly be useful for some like coders and such. 👍🏻
 
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That’s true, though thinking about it, if they added Time Machine as an app on the iPad/iPhone, local backups of iPad (or from a connected iPhone) could probably be accessed via the Time Machine app folder in the Files app under “On My iPad”. 👍🏻

I agree, it would be good if more of the file system were opened, though maybe it should be something you have to toggle in Settings, that way people don’t inadvertently mess up system files and corrupt the entire system, and so that apps couldn’t access them to hack and corrupt the system either. 👍🏻. Personally, I can’t think of a single time I have ever wanted or needed to access system-level files on my Mac. But I see how it could possibly be useful for some like coders and such. 👍🏻

Yeah, but if I could get to Photo's through the "Files" app for instance, that would be very useful to me. If we could access productivity apps files, pdf apps files, etc., that would be very useful to me. Like we can store and access files from any app in Finder and Windows Explorer. If we could do that with the "FIles" App, I'd be a happy camper. Personally, I don't need to access iPad system files, so that's fine.
 
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Yeah, but if I could get to Photo's through the "Files" app for instance, that would be very useful to me. If we could access productivity apps files, pdf apps files, etc., that would be very useful to me. Like we can store and access files from any app in Finder and Windows Explorer. If we could do that with the "FIles" App, I'd be a happy camper. Personally, I don't need to access iPad system files, so that's fine.

I don't understand why Photos is not reachable from Files. When needed, I use FileBrowser Pro to access Photos (do SMB copies to PC, etc.).
 
Yeah, but if I could get to Photo's through the "Files" app for instance, that would be very useful to me. If we could access productivity apps files, pdf apps files, etc., that would be very useful to me. Like we can store and access files from any app in Finder and Windows Explorer. If we could do that with the "FIles" App, I'd be a happy camper. Personally, I don't need to access iPad system files, so that's fine.
Yeah, you can’t get to Photos through the Files app (though to be fair, that functionality is also deprecated in Finder on recent macOS versions, clicking the Photo’s library folder opens the Photo app). Which productivity apps files can you not access? At least with the productivity apps that I use they have a corresponding application folder in “On My iPad”, or iCloud that house the files from that app. 🤷🏼‍♂️. Maybe there’s some apps that don’t use that? Like, even Nomad Sculpt, I can access all sorts of app files to insert custom tools, access my project files, etc. I haven’t noticed any difference there between Files and Finder, though maybe that’s because of the apps I use?

But yeah, I totally agree it would be great to access Photos via Files and Finder, and ideally it could be a location that could be added to the sidebar in both. 👍🏻
 
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I tried to for about 5 months. Keyboard (not apple) worked fine, but made the setup (desk? chair? floor?) obnoxious.

I have the Logitech Combo Touch for my iPad Pro, and it works well with all 3 of your scenarios since Nov. 2021 for me.
 

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