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iPad Display Shortages Linked to Light Leakage on LG-Produced Units
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If Steve Jobs was so concerned with black crush he would go with OLED for iPhone but he did not.
He was and is concerned that is why he chose to utilize IPS which do not exhibit "black crush".
This is true with contrast and blacks being slightly inferior but IPS having the best color reproduction of all panel types and slightly superior viewing angles to VA it's not a bad trade-off.
I'd like to know though how much more you'd be willing to pay for an iPad with OLED.
If that's the case then iPads will not be getting the IPS display. Maybe Samsung has come up with something even better than IPS.
Anything better than IPS would be incredible as long as the cost of the end product stays relatively the same for consumers purchasing the iPad.
UGH, you're still not getting it. IPS displays produced by Samsung are already in *SHIPPED* iPads all around the globe. My guess is Samsung provided IPS displays in the original iPads as well.
What sucks more...having an iPad 2 with some light leakage, or no iPad at all?
Can it be annoying? Sure.
Does it impact usage...not usually.
Not saying it's a non-issue but the 99% happiness I get from the device is only offset a little by a 1% hit on some "hard to find" imperfections (probably overlooked if on another brand).
May I exchange mine for a new one? Maybe...but it will due to a collection of issues and not just a minor cosmetic one.
Going from an ATT to Verizon, I feel like the Wifi is less stable...that to me is a bigger issue since it actually limits usage.
What do you suggest? OLED?
IPS is awesome ... And unless I'm mistaken, it already has them.
Didn't realize Samsung was producing IPS according to your info Chris.
I was merely pointing out that LG provided IPS panels for iPads among other apple displays. I'm surprised that Samsung produced IPS for Apple iPads since they specialize in S-PVA panels and not IPS.
I prefer IPS but I mentioned that if Samsung has something even better than IPS that's great as long as they keep the price points relatively the same.
We won't go into OLED because that would be too costly for an iPad size display. Maybe phones for now but that tech is still in its beginning stages.
I was merely pointing out that LG provided IPS panels for iPads among other apple displays. I'm surprised that Samsung produced IPS for Apple iPads since they specialize in S-PVA panels and not IPS.
I prefer IPS but I mentioned that if Samsung has something even better than IPS that's great as long as they keep the price points relatively the same.
We won't go into OLED because that would be too costly for an iPad size display. Maybe phones for now but that tech is still in its beginning stages.
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Here's an interesting article on Samsung with its new Super PLS display technology that might find its way into future iPads.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2010/12/01/samsung-ips-super-pls-lcd-display/
"Samsung looking to replace IPS screens with Super PLS LCD displays".
Samsung recently showed off its Super PLS display, which stands for Super Plan to Line Switching display, which operates on LCD technology, that promises to be better than the IPS screen display technology. Samsung is boasting a 100 percent improvement in viewing angles compared to the already wide viewing angles afforded by IPS screens and also 10 percent better brightness.
IPS screens, popularized by the Apple iPad tablet, offers a wide viewing angle. Compared to IPS, the pictures show that Samsung’s Super PLS display does offer better color reproduction and better brightness.
The technology in Super PLS screens is expected to succeed IPS screens. The new display technology was awarded 30 patents and is slated to go into production in the first quarter of next year with a maximum resolution of WXGA.
It’s unclear if Samsung will offer the new screen technology to other manufacturers or if the company will initially reserve the screens for its own phones, tablets, laptops, and other consumer electronics. Samsung had reserved stock of its Super AMOLED displays for use on Samsung’s own Galaxy S smartphones.
The company didn’t compare how the Super PLS LCD displays compare to Super LCD technologies. Super LCD was adopted by handset makers such as HTC after there was a global shortage of AMOLED displays due to Samsung reserving production of AMOLED for internal use. Super LCD boasted better viewing angles, a brighter screen, and improvements over traditional LCD screens. For its part, HTC says that the experience on Super LCD is comparable to the AMOLED screens on models that made the switch to Super LCD from AMOLED midway through production due to component shortages.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2010/12/01/samsung-ips-super-pls-lcd-display/
"Samsung looking to replace IPS screens with Super PLS LCD displays".
Samsung recently showed off its Super PLS display, which stands for Super Plan to Line Switching display, which operates on LCD technology, that promises to be better than the IPS screen display technology. Samsung is boasting a 100 percent improvement in viewing angles compared to the already wide viewing angles afforded by IPS screens and also 10 percent better brightness.
IPS screens, popularized by the Apple iPad tablet, offers a wide viewing angle. Compared to IPS, the pictures show that Samsung’s Super PLS display does offer better color reproduction and better brightness.
The technology in Super PLS screens is expected to succeed IPS screens. The new display technology was awarded 30 patents and is slated to go into production in the first quarter of next year with a maximum resolution of WXGA.
It’s unclear if Samsung will offer the new screen technology to other manufacturers or if the company will initially reserve the screens for its own phones, tablets, laptops, and other consumer electronics. Samsung had reserved stock of its Super AMOLED displays for use on Samsung’s own Galaxy S smartphones.
The company didn’t compare how the Super PLS LCD displays compare to Super LCD technologies. Super LCD was adopted by handset makers such as HTC after there was a global shortage of AMOLED displays due to Samsung reserving production of AMOLED for internal use. Super LCD boasted better viewing angles, a brighter screen, and improvements over traditional LCD screens. For its part, HTC says that the experience on Super LCD is comparable to the AMOLED screens on models that made the switch to Super LCD from AMOLED midway through production due to component shortages.
Wait a minute....Samsung are cheats, liars and copycats. They don't innovate. Only Apple innovates. They make it all and do it all.
I bet all the faulty ones were eagerly gobbled up by Android tablet makers! Just as well they are mostly still on stock shelves.
Replace 3 of the darn things and still with the light bleed... I'm guessing I'll wait a few months and replace another, hopefully the issue will be solved by then.
such a thing would mean
that the screen could now be seen
from behind the screen, I glean
quite a strange machine!
Tried to get iPad 2 #2 replaced.
I had an ipad 2 on launch day that had pretty sever light leakage. I managed to get that one replaced eventually by mailing it back to apple, after a not-shockingly useless trip to a Genius Bar. So the one i got back had like leakage just about as bad as my original. I emailed Apple customer support, who were very helpful in the first place, but they told me to wait a while to try to get it replaced. Understandable.
So today, I went to the genius bar just to see if I'd waited long enough. I told the guy i already had it replaced, and it was worse than before, thinking that'd make the problem more sympathetic. He said "Yeah, you already had it replaced? That's not something we can do more than once." i said "but it's still defective." and he says "that's just the nature of LCDs. They all do that." i'm like "don't give me that line! you're telling me every ipad has this problem?" he's like "well... Not EVERY one." i said no other person's i've seen had it this bad. I paid 800 bucks. You should replace it as many times as it needs replacing!" He continues with the "That's just the nature of LCD screens." I'm living, so he goes to the back to "check what the situation is" then tells me since it's already been replaced, they can't replace it again until the issue has been fixed. That is, the issue he denied existed.
So i wiped my ipad this morning incase they actually did replace it, and it turned out i didn't even need to bring it. He never even asked to see it.
I'm not surprise by this outcome, but I'm a little shocked he kept trying to sell me the "that's the nature of LCDs" line, and tried to deny the issue even existed, when it's a well-known defect.
I don't know why Apple customer support over the phone is so good, and the ****ing 'geniuses' can only give you answers that anyone who's spent two minutes on macrumors could give. The Apple store's increasingly ****** customer service has really soured my on everything apple lately, and I'm considering jumping ship more than ever.
I had an ipad 2 on launch day that had pretty sever light leakage. I managed to get that one replaced eventually by mailing it back to apple, after a not-shockingly useless trip to a Genius Bar. So the one i got back had like leakage just about as bad as my original. I emailed Apple customer support, who were very helpful in the first place, but they told me to wait a while to try to get it replaced. Understandable.
So today, I went to the genius bar just to see if I'd waited long enough. I told the guy i already had it replaced, and it was worse than before, thinking that'd make the problem more sympathetic. He said "Yeah, you already had it replaced? That's not something we can do more than once." i said "but it's still defective." and he says "that's just the nature of LCDs. They all do that." i'm like "don't give me that line! you're telling me every ipad has this problem?" he's like "well... Not EVERY one." i said no other person's i've seen had it this bad. I paid 800 bucks. You should replace it as many times as it needs replacing!" He continues with the "That's just the nature of LCD screens." I'm living, so he goes to the back to "check what the situation is" then tells me since it's already been replaced, they can't replace it again until the issue has been fixed. That is, the issue he denied existed.
So i wiped my ipad this morning incase they actually did replace it, and it turned out i didn't even need to bring it. He never even asked to see it.
I'm not surprise by this outcome, but I'm a little shocked he kept trying to sell me the "that's the nature of LCDs" line, and tried to deny the issue even existed, when it's a well-known defect.
I don't know why Apple customer support over the phone is so good, and the ****ing 'geniuses' can only give you answers that anyone who's spent two minutes on macrumors could give. The Apple store's increasingly ****** customer service has really soured my on everything apple lately, and I'm considering jumping ship more than ever.
Do any Canadian bought units exhibit this problem or were we spared this by the delayed launch in Canada by getting Samsung displays?
I have not noticed any light leaking on my iPad 2 but the screen does seem to be darker when at minimum brightness than my iPad 1 was.
I have not noticed any light leaking on my iPad 2 but the screen does seem to be darker when at minimum brightness than my iPad 1 was.
get a new one
If you have a defective Ipad, get it replaced.
The only way that Apple will improve their quality control is when some bean counter (and the bean counters run the company, more than Jobs) realizes that the shoddy components and workmanship are cutting into the profit margin.
The best feedback that you can give Apple is to demand replacements for defective products.
Don't settle for a bleeding or yellow screen - demand a working product.
I have this problem! Under by the homebutton I have display bleeding!
If you have a defective Ipad, get it replaced.
The only way that Apple will improve their quality control is when some bean counter (and the bean counters run the company, more than Jobs) realizes that the shoddy components and workmanship are cutting into the profit margin.
The best feedback that you can give Apple is to demand replacements for defective products.
Don't settle for a bleeding or yellow screen - demand a working product.