My employer gave me one to try out. I played with it for a little bit, but I could never find a reason to reach for it over my iPhone or laptop. Each of those done the various jobs better than the iPad compromise.
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iPad Drives Apple to Third Place Worldwide, First in North America for Mobile PC Sale
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My employer gave me one to try out. I played with it for a little bit, but I could never find a reason to reach for it over my iPhone or laptop. Each of those done the various jobs better than the iPad compromise.
Is there a list somewhere that I can reference as to which research firms/analysts are credible and which are not? It can be a living document, I'm ok with that.
I've trying learning by observation, but I'm getting confused.
What I have learned so far:
Research firm/analyst delivers good news about Apple: credible.
Research firm/analyst delivers less than good news about Apple: not credible.
Some kind of list would surely be helpful, for myself and others.
I've trying learning by observation, but I'm getting confused.
What I have learned so far:
Research firm/analyst delivers good news about Apple: credible.
Research firm/analyst delivers less than good news about Apple: not credible.
Some kind of list would surely be helpful, for myself and others.
You are ignoring half your sample. There are just as many people with the opposite opinion that you listed.
For example, in this thread you have:Only if the printers have LCD displays.
All kidding aside, you're right. This article is a joke.
There is a difference in the data being credible and the analysis being credible. In this case, we are talking about estimates based on an already closed quarter that seem to be in line with previously reported numbers. As opposed to projections. Or surveys of a non-random group that are attempted to be extrapolated over the market as a whole.
personal computer (pûrs-nl)
A computer built around a microprocessor for use by an individual. Personal computers have their own operating systems, software, and peripherals, and can generally be linked to networks. Compare mainframe.
The American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
( add portable if you want to)
Way too large definition, this definition works for iphone, ipad, ipod touch and many many other devices.
The study itself should precise what they considered like a personnal portable computer.
edit: its biaised because an ipad is not a PC........... not because the study is not probabilist...
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The only time I have ever seen anyone with one was standing in line for the iPhone 4 launch. They were everywhere.
Well just good to see they are doing well, encourages developers to take up the platform(s).
I'd be just as interested to see the dollar-share percentages and rankings. Wonder if it would be as skewed as the smartphone revenue based rankings, ie. something like iPhone 4 with 6% marketshare by units sold, 50% marketshare by revenue, 90% marketshare by profit generated.
I'd be just as interested to see the dollar-share percentages and rankings. Wonder if it would be as skewed as the smartphone revenue based rankings, ie. something like iPhone 4 with 6% marketshare by units sold, 50% marketshare by revenue, 90% marketshare by profit generated.
They do. Did you read it?
How can you say it's not a PC when it meets the definition of PC that you posted? Have you found a definition that it does not meet?
The study chooses to include iPads in this analysis because they have been shown to have a significant impact on the PC market. iPhones do not. Where is the bias? They're is nothing misleading about the numbers. It is very clear what is included. They even include alternate numbers without the iPad.
Yes and it should include: Iphone, Ipod touch, Ipad, etc etc etc
or
Exclude the ipad if they are not inlcuding all other devices. Iphones are not significant in terms of number... are you serious
Apple pushes out Dell? Who'd have thunk...
Understandable given the shoddy workmanship these past few years on their creaky plastic laptop line. Their stuff turned to total crap.
Understandable given the shoddy workmanship these past few years on their creaky plastic laptop line. Their stuff turned to total crap.
I have to agree with you in that iPad is not a notebook. On the other hand, if the iPad was compared with other tablets only, the data would be absolutely boring. What would that be, about 99% iPad in Q4 2010?
I already explained that. Why would they include iPhones or iPods in an analysis of the mobile PC market when they don't compete in the mobile PC market?
The number of iPhones sold is irrelevant to the mobile PC market. It has been shown that a significant number of people are buying iPads instead of laptops. The same is not true of iPhones. iPhones are in a different market. This study is a market analysis.
As an AAPL shareholder, I would definitely say that I like Apple more today than in 2005.
And as a customer, my opinion would not be very different.
bingo.
It's a study to show where consumers are spending their money (or how the iPad is impacting the marketplace) ... Not to incite an argument over what the definition of a mobile PC is; or how useful a tablet is.
DisplaySearch/NDP Group is a _market research_ company.
Breaking off the Ipad into a separate 'tablet' catagory doesn't make sense _at this time_ since the results would be obvious and uninformative.
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We don't want you to know that we have iPads. You'll want to try them out.
Who is the person who revealed the secret that he owns an iPad? I need his name for my report to Steve.
Heck... I live in Scranton PA (this is not the high-tech capital of anywhere) and I've seen several in the wild.
If so, what is the definition of Personal Computer?
A computer (CPU, storage, human-usable IO) that one person can buy on their own credit card, carry out of the store themselves (no forklift required), and use, or even program themselves (without hiring an operator).
That definition fits an Apple II (with a monitor), an iPad and an iPhone (with a developer certificate) just fine. The iPhone and iPad can do far more than an Apple II (which is a canonical Personal Computer, almost the definition of such). You can even program them in Tiny Basic.
In fact, the iPad can do some things faster than a Cray 1, which would make it a Personal Supercomputer.
That's because you have both an iPhone and a laptop. The iPad is for people who don't... say because the iPhone is too small for them, or the laptop is too complicated, heavy, awkward, etc.
There are millions (maybe billions) of people who aren't like you, but have money to spend.
even if its not marketed as such, i use my iphone as a mobile computing device. i dont imagine im the only one.
i dont suppose the iphone is thought to compete with anything other than phones. the iphone has filled a few roles for me.
anyway, ios is the top selling os for north america for now. interesting. people choosing that over osx or windows does say something.
i dont suppose the iphone is thought to compete with anything other than phones. the iphone has filled a few roles for me.
anyway, ios is the top selling os for north america for now. interesting. people choosing that over osx or windows does say something.
I have a god friend that bought one (even without me encouraging her) because she mostly does email, web surfing, and her blog and she didn't like her Windoze PC because it was too "finicky" and complicated as she put it. For her, the iPad is a dream... simple to use. Does what she wants and more.
Although I'd love to have an iPad to play with, I would be a horrible customer. My iPhone and MacBook are fine for me. An iPad would be just a toy. Hummm... games would be pretty kick-butt on them I'm sure!
Oh... I think because of the size and overall functionality, why not consider it a portable PC? Although the iPad may not be the best at writing long reports, or doing spreadsheets, it does most everything else. Better than what most laptops did 10 years ago. So... why not count it?
I could see excluding the iPhone because it's primary task is a phone. The iPod Touch... that could be the same as an iPad, but it's too small to be very productive as a portable PC and it's sold as a media player... so, makes sense to exclude it too.
I also own an ipad... and I agree.
My netbook was so much more capable than my ipad in many ways.
but my ipad was so much more efficient than my netbook in even more ways.
Ipad should be apart of this survey if netbooks are. For 99% of consumers an ipad can do everything a netbook can, except its more portable, funner to use, sexier, and more expensive.
Apple is in 3rd place world wide, and they are getting even bigger. Also if we targeted consumers only, I bet apple would be 1st worldwide.
By any definition that matters, the iPad is a personal computer.
If Microsoft made a tablet that actually caught in, you may be sure people would call that a PC! Just because iOS is a variant of a major legacy OS rather being a legacy OS itself doesn’t make iOS devices not PCs. A case can be made against handhelds as PCs (on size alone; though that distinction is blurring) but tablets? They’re a type of PC.
People use them for email, browsing, games, word processing, spreadsheets, music, video... computing. And they’re choosing them instead of a new laptop.
They’re not the SAME as a laptop. A laptop’s not the same as a tower, either. But they’re PCs. To exclude the iPad, you have to invent arbitrary divisions that don’t really reflect what the device does and how people use it.
If Microsoft made a tablet that actually caught in, you may be sure people would call that a PC! Just because iOS is a variant of a major legacy OS rather being a legacy OS itself doesn’t make iOS devices not PCs. A case can be made against handhelds as PCs (on size alone; though that distinction is blurring) but tablets? They’re a type of PC.
People use them for email, browsing, games, word processing, spreadsheets, music, video... computing. And they’re choosing them instead of a new laptop.
They’re not the SAME as a laptop. A laptop’s not the same as a tower, either. But they’re PCs. To exclude the iPad, you have to invent arbitrary divisions that don’t really reflect what the device does and how people use it.