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Assuming Apple introduces multi-tasking in some form in the future, would there be any significant reasons to jailbreak in that case?
 
Assuming Apple introduces multi-tasking in some form in the future, would there be any significant reasons to jailbreak in that case?

I think the desire to personalize the ipad will dwarf that of the phone. Change icons, colors, & other options totally not allowed by apple.

Ipad's size alone could allow 2 apps to run side by side in landscape mode...that alone will be reason enough for me :)
 
While I'm nearly positive Apple would never allow two apps to run side by side on the screen, I do agree that multi-tasking would probably make a considerable dent in jailbreaking interest. Combined with being able to change your wallpaper, that's already 80% of what I jailbreak for.

But let's be real. A majority of us jailbreak for the pirating aspect, I'll admit that I do. I'm a poor college age American, of course if I can get something for free, easily, I'm all over it. So I think what Apple REALLY needs to do to limit the desire to jailbreak is to incorporate the 3 day trial, or even 24 hour trial on apps. Because really I fiddle with an app for a bit, then lose interest, the few that keep my interest I'd be more willing to pay for, especially since apps are dirt cheap.
 
While I'm nearly positive Apple would never allow two apps to run side by side on the screen, I do agree that multi-tasking would probably make a considerable dent in jailbreaking interest. Combined with being able to change your wallpaper, that's already 80% of what I jailbreak for.

But let's be real. A majority of us jailbreak for the pirating aspect, I'll admit that I do. I'm a poor college age American, of course if I can get something for free, easily, I'm all over it. So I think what Apple REALLY needs to do to limit the desire to jailbreak is to incorporate the 3 day trial, or even 24 hour trial on apps. Because really I fiddle with an app for a bit, then lose interest, the few that keep my interest I'd be more willing to pay for, especially since apps are dirt cheap.

I agree. I just graduated and i make very very little.
You should have bought illegal iTunes gift card while they were selling on ioffer.com. $100 iTunes gc for $30 :)
 
Because some of us have morals.

Well you'll be surprised to know I have never used instalus, but unixphone was saying he was broke and that he was buying illegal itunes giftcards for a third the price. So as long as you pay at least 1/3 the price I guess that constitutes morals by your definition?
 
Well you'll be surprised to know I have never used instalus, but unixphone was saying he was broke and that he was buying illegal itunes giftcards for a third the price. So as long as you pay at least 1/3 the price I guess that constitutes morals by your definition?

Paying 1/3 the price is better than not paying for it at all, but it still is not morally correct by my definition. Anyway, I think that we will see an iPad jailbreak within a few months, but the only reason I jailbroke my iPhone 3GS was so I could subsequently unlock it for use on T-Mobile. I would not jailbreak my iPad if it was only for multitasking.
 
Paying 1/3 the price is better than not paying for it at all, but it still is not morally correct by my definition.

Buying illegal gift cards is costing Apple money. They still end up having to pay the developers 70% but that is completely out of their pocket. Download it through installous and its not hurting either party (apple or the developers). Granted its not helping either as well but I feel that if you had to pick one, installous is doing less overall damage. I'm not trying to say pirating is morally correct by any means but at least this way youre not hurting anyone.
 
The way I see it is Apple wanted to play cat and mouse.

Tom and Jerry played that game, guess who typically won?

Pirating is going to exist on the internet, no matter what. Apple is one of the most profitable companies in America, no matter how many people steal their applications they'll make an amazing profit.

That being said I firmly believe in paying for an app if you use it frequently, especially if it's from an indie developer.
 
Buying illegal gift cards is costing Apple money. They still end up having to pay the developers 70% but that is completely out of their pocket. Download it through installous and its not hurting either party (apple or the developers). Granted its not helping either as well but I feel that if you had to pick one, installous is doing less overall damage. I'm not trying to say pirating is morally correct by any means but at least this way youre not hurting anyone.

I did not consider that point of view. However, if you would have normally bought an Application through the App Store legally, then obtaining it illegally would, in fact, hurt Apple and the developer.
 
I did not consider that point of view. However, if you would have normally bought an Application through the App Store legally, then obtaining it illegally would, in fact, hurt Apple and the developer.

I agree. I personally have no issues paying a few dollars for an app that I will be using for hours and hours. I can't even jailbreak my current iPhone (the power button is broken so i can't enter DFU mode) so no free apps for me even if i wanted. I'm merely stating that if you really are that short on money (which im not even though I'm a college student) installous is the best way to go.
 
Jailbreak

I have had jailbroken iphones for 18 months. I would not even buy my 3GS until there was a jailbreak for it. I have purchased every app I have including one for $39.99. I have even donated to Geohot for writing the last jailbreak. The reason I jailbreak is there are better apps on Cydia than there are in the app store. Intelliscreen and Quickdo are two apps I wouldn't want to do without. I would imagine most people jailbreak for this reason and not to steal apps. I have preordered the iPad and will jailbreak it as soon as there is a jailbreak. Stealing as app because you can't afford does no make it right.
 
I'd love a JB iPad. I just don't think it's going to happen for quite a while. Some devices have excellent security features....look at the PS3. It's been out for years now and just recently has GeoHot hacked it so that it can run homebrew. To this date, no homebrew for the PS3 is available. Apple has lost a large sum of money to the jailbreak community. I ensure you that they are doing what they can to eliminate jailbreaking altogether.

PS3 architecture is completely difference thanks to the cell processor. iPad is a giant iPod Touch, which has been hacked countless times. World of difference. iPad will be hacked in a matter of days.
 
Assuming Apple introduces multi-tasking in some form in the future, would there be any significant reasons to jailbreak in that case?
Forensic recovery of data is one reason. :)

While I'm nearly positive Apple would never allow two apps to run side by side on the screen, I do agree that multi-tasking would probably make a considerable dent in jailbreaking interest. Combined with being able to change your wallpaper, that's already 80% of what I jailbreak for.

But let's be real. A majority of us jailbreak for the pirating aspect, I'll admit that I do. I'm a poor college age American, of course if I can get something for free, easily, I'm all over it. So I think what Apple REALLY needs to do to limit the desire to jailbreak is to incorporate the 3 day trial, or even 24 hour trial on apps. Because really I fiddle with an app for a bit, then lose interest, the few that keep my interest I'd be more willing to pay for, especially since apps are dirt cheap.
Yeah, I love to personalize my iPhone with sounds, etc. I'd love to be able to do the same with my iPad as well. I do however disagree with the pirating aspect. I know tons of jailbreakers and none have even thought about pirating apps, myself included.

Why? Jailbreak = every app free
Not necessarily. I HATE the connotation that people think that jailbreak means people want pirated apps. I think we want to customize the interface, use command line, etc. :)
 
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