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iPad Mini doesn't have 'legs'
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Not really. The iPad 3 you talk up as being ahead today has essentially the same hardware as the iPad mini. The iPad 2, which is still for sale, is still a high-performing tablet. This is an updated iPad 2 with lower power consumption, improved cameras, and a better display.
Other small tablets have it beat in the resolution department, but didn't they all claim that resolution wasn't everything when they were losing out to iPhones and iPads left and right?
What you're missing is that this is equal to or better than the iPad 2 in every measurable way...for $70 less. The parts cost savings in the smaller size are minimal--the new display is estimated to be roughly the same price. The smaller battery is a touch cheaper, and there's less case material, but that's it. Apple's already taking a lower margin on this than any other iPad. Value per dollar on this is just fine, as is its longevity. The iPhone 4S, iPad 2, and iPad 3 are still fine with plenty of life left in them. This hardware will easily perform as an entry-level product for the next year with no problems at all.
You fundamentally misunderstand what it means to be a retina-class display. The Nook HD+ is, but not because it's higher that the MacBook Pro. You're missing the distance component. Most HDTVs, even with sub-100 ppi, are also "retina" in typical living rooms.
It's retina, but that's not why.
Crapple? What... are you in grade school or something with kiddie insult names like that?
I think they missed the point of a 7inch tablet. They painted themselves into a corner with all the sales guff they talked about 7inch being DOA. They might have wanted to keep the same ratio for apps and to make it look like the ipad but they changed the iphone screen ratio with a different screen size so i don't see why they couldn't change it for ipad mini. I think their ego got in the way of sensible device decisions and they pooped out a fail.
Better luck next time
Serious answer here. They changed the ratio for the phone - and phone apps. The ratio for the tablet has not been changed. While you may not care about the developers and only care about your specs and retina, there really is a legit reason to keep things simple for developers; at least for awhile until more catch up with the ratio change of the phone apps.
Also, for every person who chooses the Nook, I'm sure 1000 others will choose iPad. People who like the Apple experience and actually use the apps aren't caught up in the specs.
In person it feels thin and light, more like an e-reader in utility.
Except the screen looks better than the cheaper readers, bright, vivid, with similar specs to an iPad 2 but in a smaller space.
It in no way appears or feels like the screen or anything else is a sacrifice.
The same way people felt the iPhone 5 was lighter than the 4s, the mini feels like they left something out compared to it's larger sibling.
If you honestly think a fire, nexus, or whatsis tablet is even a close competitor to any iPad there will be no reasoning with you.
And think is not the right word, if you are enamored with specs and ignore everything else that make a product a delight.
Second, might be nice for those with overly strong options to actually wait till they can use or purchase one before venting.
I expect there will be some happy campers by the end of the week with the same group of naysayers in tow.
Worst thing that could happen is that it winds up like the Lisa.
That would only make it a spring board to something better.
Except the screen looks better than the cheaper readers, bright, vivid, with similar specs to an iPad 2 but in a smaller space.
It in no way appears or feels like the screen or anything else is a sacrifice.
The same way people felt the iPhone 5 was lighter than the 4s, the mini feels like they left something out compared to it's larger sibling.
If you honestly think a fire, nexus, or whatsis tablet is even a close competitor to any iPad there will be no reasoning with you.
And think is not the right word, if you are enamored with specs and ignore everything else that make a product a delight.
Second, might be nice for those with overly strong options to actually wait till they can use or purchase one before venting.
I expect there will be some happy campers by the end of the week with the same group of naysayers in tow.
Worst thing that could happen is that it winds up like the Lisa.
That would only make it a spring board to something better.
The iPad Mini is overpriced and underspec'd, but so is the iPod Touch. It isn't uncommon at all for Apple to put out a product that gets surpassed by a competitor in some respect.
I am thinking that Apple is depending on their superior design (really, I haven't heard anyone seriously complain about anything besides the screen, processor, and RAM). From everything I have seen, they are right to claim they are better than the Nexus 7, which I have.
Where I see the problem is with the form factor itself (a topic for another thread) and the price point. We'll just have to see what sales tell us about how well the general public responds.
I am thinking that Apple is depending on their superior design (really, I haven't heard anyone seriously complain about anything besides the screen, processor, and RAM). From everything I have seen, they are right to claim they are better than the Nexus 7, which I have.
Where I see the problem is with the form factor itself (a topic for another thread) and the price point. We'll just have to see what sales tell us about how well the general public responds.
Or Apple wanted to create a lower point of entry iPad for the general consumer and not hard core spec nerds like the ones haunting this website. The mini isn't for spec heads its for someone who wants a lighter, smaller iPad. If you want the top spec iPad get a 4th gen. Nobody is forcing a Mini on you.
"A Durrrrr" to everyone who keeps posting about the iPad specs.
The only 'legs' it needs are the ones that are carrying it out of the stores. Lets see what the sales numbers are before we blast it as a failure.
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The same could be said about the ipad in general. That's why it is locked down, why they don't approve of jailbreaking and will refuse service (per the terms of service that everyone agrees to when they buy the device, even if they never read the terms) and so on. It's not for spec wanking techie nerds. It's not a computer. It's a device with some computer functions like email. but that's all.
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maybe, maybe not. The math Apple uses to define the term takes the distance from the eye into consideration. A laptop is often further from the eye and thus a lower ppi could still be 'retina'
A Nook would likely be the same distance as an iPad, how does the PPI compare in that case.
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Not really valid since that was the best screen folks had seen on the ipad, until the 3 came out. Now that folks have had 7 months to get used to the ipad 3 screen, it might matter that the Mini has taken a step back. Particularly to those that don't understand that there's no battery tech that would give the same daily life as the bigger iPads in a smaller form and proper that 'better' display. So the drop is a necessary evil at this time
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it doesn't matter if he would or wouldn't. He's dead and gone and Tim is running the company. So "What Would Tim Do" is the rule now. If they don't like it they can not buy. End of story.
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Yep they made a cheap bit of hardware with a ****** OS and barely any apps and are selling it at cost because they can make up the difference with their other sales like books and dvds or with ad sales. Just like the other companies do.
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The same could be said about the ipad in general. That's why it is locked down, why they don't approve of jailbreaking and will refuse service (per the terms of service that everyone agrees to when they buy the device, even if they never read the terms) and so on. It's not for spec wanking techie nerds. It's not a computer. It's a device with some computer functions like email. but that's all.
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maybe, maybe not. The math Apple uses to define the term takes the distance from the eye into consideration. A laptop is often further from the eye and thus a lower ppi could still be 'retina'
A Nook would likely be the same distance as an iPad, how does the PPI compare in that case.
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Not really valid since that was the best screen folks had seen on the ipad, until the 3 came out. Now that folks have had 7 months to get used to the ipad 3 screen, it might matter that the Mini has taken a step back. Particularly to those that don't understand that there's no battery tech that would give the same daily life as the bigger iPads in a smaller form and proper that 'better' display. So the drop is a necessary evil at this time
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it doesn't matter if he would or wouldn't. He's dead and gone and Tim is running the company. So "What Would Tim Do" is the rule now. If they don't like it they can not buy. End of story.
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Yep they made a cheap bit of hardware with a ****** OS and barely any apps and are selling it at cost because they can make up the difference with their other sales like books and dvds or with ad sales. Just like the other companies do.
And you are clearly writing a post without a shred of backing data. Hey guys and gals. There's some nice features of these boards. You can provide links! You can provide pictures! You can reference an infinitum of substantiating data.
Instead we opinion presented as fact sans any supporting evidence. We're just supposed to read the blathering of someone that doesn't have the common courtesy or wherewith-all to provide any links.
In essence you've tried ...but you've wasted our times. You wanna do Op-Ed create a blog so we can more easily ignore it.
Apparently the public seems to think otherwise. Apple is now sold out of "launch day" iPad minis on their website.
These were kind of my thoughts when the iPod Mini came out. Remember the iPod mini? It was just a little smaller, HD was a lot smaller, and costs were comparable to the iPad & iPad mini today. It didn't make sense to me until I held one in my hand. It truly was about the size. It was only nominally smaller, but damn that size made difference.
I think iPad mini definitely hit the nail on the head as far as size, weight. Mini is just an iterations of it's full size, I don't know why people were looking at it like it was supposed to be some tablet killer.
I think iPad mini definitely hit the nail on the head as far as size, weight. Mini is just an iterations of it's full size, I don't know why people were looking at it like it was supposed to be some tablet killer.