The lines may be "mini", but at least there are lines! I've NEVER heard of lines for a Samsung product![]()
As for retina display fans, are you sure you know what you want? Ipad 4 is about 1.44lb and Ipad mini is about 3/4 size of the Ipad 4. So a retina display at IPad 4 resolution of 2048x1536 Ipad min probably will weight about 1.08 lb (Ipad mini weight 0.68 lb), about 58% more than Ipad mini. And then who is going to pay for the cost of the extra set of led back light (Ipad 3/4 use 2 set of LED backlight) and the bigger battery pack (because of the extra set of LED back light). So an Ipad mini with retina display at Ipad 4 resolution will probably weight 58% more + may be $80 more.. Anyone still interest in a device like that?
Apple can get to retina spec on Ipad mini without going to 2048x1536 because of the smaller size (much like Nexus 7), but it introduces screen layout problem to all the tablet app in existence. A new resolution will force all the existing app to update the design and who know the schedule of when will they be done. So we end up a device that is just like Android tablet, a tablet with much better spec but terrible app experience. Is that what you want? I know I don't.
Ipad mini is not a flagship device. It is a entry level device that is much more mobile than the flagship Ipad 4. It cost lower and you can use it with one hand. If you are not willing to pay for the flagship price, you shouldn't compare it to the flagship features. Comparing to Nexus 7 or Amazon Fire HD is a fair game. But there is a reason that Google and Amazon priced their tablet with such a low price. It is an indication that the demand for their product is weak at higher price point. Asking for a lower price Ipad mini is like saying I want a steak but I am only willing to pay a hamburg price. Of course, you are going to be disappointed. Ipad mini is going to be the lowest margin product in the current Apple product line up. They discussed this in Apple earning conference call a week or so ago. Ipad 2 and Ipad 3 has 23 to 32% gross margin. After paying tax, design cost, distribution cost and pay tax, Apple at best make 10-12% on each Ipad 2 and Ipad 3. The base Ipad mini gross margin is going to be in the high teen and Apple probably make 3-5% profit after all the expense. The only way Apple can make money on Ipad mini is customer buy a lot of the high end model (the 32g, 64G or the one with wifi). The high end model will have a much better gross margin. Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire HD loss money for Google and Amazon. Google make up the loss by the search revenue (Google pay Apple to be used as the default search engine in IOS device but no fee to anyone for Android device). Amzn make it up when people spend money on their site and they sold the default search engine right to Microsoft.
I know what you mean... I would wait in line for the Note 2. However, I'll be able to stroll in to my att store and pick one up no problem.
The lines may be "mini", but at least there are lines! I've NEVER heard of lines for a Samsung product![]()
Think about it: Anything with a stylus means you can NEVER use it with one hand. I owned about 10 PALM devices. That was enough with a stylus.
Guess I forgot my sarcasm tag.Ah, "fanboy" and "kool-aid" again.
Why can't they just like the product? Why does it always have to be something sinister? Why do we all have to agree with you that it sucks?
50/60 at the Liverpool ONE store this morning.
Looking at your sig line I couldn't stop laughing. You have seen the sheep and guess what...Look at those iSheeps standing in line.
The media and anti-Apple trolls will have a field day, but can't say Apple doesn't deserve it this round. It's really not a "gotta have it right now" product. Ultimately, sales will be great this quarter and that is all that matters.
But I hope Apple is taking note. They need to beef up the screen and proc. next round. Instead of a mini iPad and iPad retina line they need an iPad and iPad Pro line. Sell both sizes like the MBP, but one as a "budget" model, and the other with all the tech bells and whistles. The mini shouldn't be hobbled by a two year old proc and 512GB RAM just because it's smaller.
I wonder if this phenomena (Apple lines) even exists in non English speaking countries? GB feeling like "little brothers" and following in the foot steps of Americans is a well known fact. What about, say, France?
When you shaft iPad 3 owners don't expect them to return for another round so quickly.
When you shaft iPad 3 owners don't expect them to return for another round so quickly.
Amen brother! I was furious when they announced the fourth gen iPad. I'm a launch day buyer, but have definitely learned my lesson on that one!
I've been waiting for months for the iPad mini and yet now that it's here I'm in no rush. It's the screen that has put me off. I want it for reading and that's exactly where the old low res screen fails.
Maybe that's why so many others aren't in line either.
Apple, you miscalculated. Learn a lesson from this.
I wonder if this phenomena (Apple lines) even exists in non English speaking countries? GB feeling like "little brothers" and following in the foot steps of Americans is a well known fact. What about, say, France?
Keyword "if" but it doesn't. The mini is a "mee too" device because so many others are doing smaller tablets...better.
I know that the design and build is so great, but it is technology. I personally do not buy this stuff to put it in a frame or try to sell it in 20 years as a collectors piece. I buy it to use it.
I have a plastic, large bezel Kindle, made by that inferior company Amazon (sarcasm) and I love it. Apple, IMO, needs to get back to really innovating. The iPhone was an innovation. Guess we will see what J.Ive comes up with next.
Paying a premium for a device that has lackluster specs, that will only be around for a year tops, seems silly to me.
I say all this because I have been a loyal Apple fan for over 15 years. But, I recently switched to an Android Galaxy S3 phone from the iphone and I love that too. The Android store is way bigger than Apple fans like to admit. I can honestly say there is not 1 app that I had on my iphone that I did not get on my S3...that I NEEDED.
Sure the Apple app ecosystem has more apps, but I don't need a "fart" app or $999 diamond app. I;m looking for these devices to actually make my life easier (cough: iTunes...terrible)
I plan on geting that plastic Google Nexus 10, cause there is a device with some specs...and a beautiful screen.
OK, let the flaming begin....