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Always amazed at these grossly inaccurate comments.

Apps don't run in uncontrolled in background on iOS. There is no such thing as 10-15 running in background. That does NOT slow it down.

Installing 80+ apps does NOT slow it down.

If you run low of free space, that could slow it down some. Not sure why you think your 4S is running slower than at the store. Have you done a side by side comparison with one that doesn't have much on it?

My kid installed a TON of apps on the old iPhone 3G I gave her and having a ton of apps on the phone DID slow it down. It would take about 60 seconds just to open an app from the home screen.
 
I find it amazing that for years, all we heard is about how the Mac platform was not about the specs but about usability. For instance you pay a premium for Apple products, they are easy to use, and you get a solid quality product that just works. Everyone that has ever shopped for a PC or laptop knows you can get a whole lot more spec wise for your money vs. buying Apple.

Fast forward to the iPad Mini and now we're just supposed to throw out the usability factor and focus strictly on specs, as if that is the only factor to consider when purchasing a device. That is total rubbish. The screen is but one factor and its far from being the eyesore many like to claim.

The Mini is by far, my favorite Apple product to date... and yes I do have an iPad 3 to compare it to.

My advice is to go to a store and decide for yourself. Don't get hung up on specs only. The iPad Mini isn't a major purchasing decision. If it turns out you prefer the iPad to the mini then get that one. No need to trash a product you have no use for.

Hello, looking at the screen in comfort is the definition of usability. We arent talking about the processor or the RAM. We are talking about the thing you are staring at for hours straight and how you mainly interact with the device. If its not comfortable to read or what you have become accustomed to from iPhones and iPads, it is a deal breaker.
 
Perfect analogy! It's like going from iPhone 4 back to iPhone 3G.

Uhhh, not even close. I still have the 3G and next to the iPad 2 you'd think the iPad 2 had a retina screen. Plus, the Mini screen is definitely better than the iPad 2.
 
Since your iPad 4 is unused can't you just return it? I assume you meant an iPad 3.

No I actually sold my 3 to purchase the mini :)

My partner won the 4 as part of a work thing, she used it for a day or two - then got her hands on my mini (I know how that sounds!) She has since purchased a mini so the 4 is sat in its box while we decide whether to sell it, or it may end up as someones Christmas present.
 
I expected to be underwhelmed by the iPad mini after hearing so many bad things about it online but I had a play with one yesterday and I thought it was excellent. The screen isn't Retina but it's still very good. The hardware isn't the latest but it's still very fast, no lag at all. I'm impressed, might get one when I have the money, especially since my first gen iPad isn't getting any more updates and is lagging noticeably these days.
 
http://m.gizmodo.com/5959770/is-the-ipad-mini-the-beginning-of-apples-decline

Ouch

Imagine that, an anti-Apple awrsewhole, on a site that isn't happy with Apple, who happens to own a few iPads (and a Kindle Fire which he admits he doesn't pick up anymore) condemns the new iPad mini (his 4th, not that he even admits he has a need for). Just read the comments that totally disagree with his article - he's nothing more than page-hit-controversy.

Further, he challenges other top writers to admit they still love the mini after 1 week. Well, I'm not a top writer, but hey, Dave, I've had mine for over a week and I love it more than the day I bought it, but then again I had a reason to buy it other than mere curiosity at a new device. Shove that up your Winer, Dave.

He's not an authority, he's merely offensive. And he's someone you should ignore.
 
The slow browser performance and the constant reloading of web pages is one of the main issues I have with my iPad 2.

I haven't had the browser reload of pages happen yet on the Mini, and I've used it as my primary tablet since launch day.

I also used to get annoyed with the reload issue on my iPad 2 as I often have to to copy/paste paragraphs across different pages and it always seemed to happen when I had just about completed a page and bang the whole thing refreshed and disappeared.

The Mini must have more memory allocated to the browser, even with 4 or 5 tabs open it doesn't do it.
 
It's a small iPad with a blurry screen. That's what I realized when I saw it in person.

Amazing that 163 ppi is blurry these days. The iPad 2, that was amazing a year ago was 132 ppi. How do you like your 11 inch macbook air? It has 135 ppi screen. How about your iMac with its 102 ppi? Or $1,000 Thurderbolt Display? 109 ppi.

We are unnecessarily spoiled by opulence: 264 (iPad) and 326 (iPhone) ppi. And it hard to go back.
 
Hello, looking at the screen in comfort is the definition of usability. We arent talking about the processor or the RAM. We are talking about the thing you are staring at for hours straight and how you mainly interact with the device. If its not comfortable to read or what you have become accustomed to from iPhones and iPads, it is a deal breaker.

Many here are talking specs, ram, processor, not just retina. I respect that you don't like it. Most likely the ipad 4 will serve your needs better. I'm just glad that we all have a choice now.
 
Hello, looking at the screen in comfort is the definition of usability.

If your physical form is eyes only and not arms, hands and the rest of the physical form that we humans possess, I still could not agree with you. This device is more than the display. It's not the definition of usability, that's ridiculous exaggeration.

To be useful, it must be portable, it must be able to be held in one hand without discomfort, it must be lightweight, it must be thin, it must run apps well to very well, it must, it must, it must...

Perhaps you should just buy an IGZO display (only) from some manufacturer, I'm sure they'd sell you one, and then come back here and tell us how wonderful it is as a device, and what apps you can run on it, and how it feels in your hands.

Looking at the screen in comfort is just one aspect of usability with a device like this, and it's not the *only* one, it's merely the only one that grease monkeys who never drive the cars they maintain and spec focussed morons like to dwell upon.
 
Amazing that 163 ppi is blurry these days. The iPad 2, that was amazing a year ago was 132 ppi. How do you like your 11 inch macbook air? It has 135 ppi screen. How about your iMac with its 102 ppi? Or $1,000 Thurderbolt Display? 109 ppi.

We are unnecessarily spoiled by opulence: 264 (iPad) and 326 (iPhone) ppi. And it hard to go back.

But those devices arent blurry.It's blurry for something other than ppi, maybe lower quality screen? Can't explain it.
 
I thought the mini was kind of stupid, then I saw it in person and fell in love... Haven't bought one yet though. Still have my iPad 1.
 
But those devices arent blurry.It's blurry for something other than ppi, maybe lower quality screen? Can't explain it.

I think when you looked at the mini you were so awed by the device that your glasses flew off your face (or your contacts popped out) and you merely didn't notice.

That explanation is certainly more logical than there simply being lots of people who think there is nothing blurry at all on this most lovely device. Right? :rolleyes:.
 
But those devices arent blurry.It's blurry for something other than ppi, maybe lower quality screen? Can't explain it.

Agreed. I have a bunch of notebooks and monitors that are around 130 PPI. None are anywhere near as grainy as the Mini.
 
Agreed. I have a bunch of notebooks and monitors that are around 130 PPI. None are anywhere near as grainy as the Mini.

Yep, grainy = blurry? Wait, no, not one bit.

Don't agree with this assertion unless you're willing to misuse terms describing something I think you're being more accurate regarding, but I'm not sure because you imply grainy is the same as blurry, which it is not.

Blurry requires optical correction, grainy is seeing details that require precision focus. They are actually quite opposite. One is exaggeration, one is precise. Which are you?
 
Yep, grainy = blurry? Wait, no, not one bit.

Don't agree with this assertion unless you're willing to misuse terms describing something I think you're being more accurate regarding, but I'm not sure because you imply grainy is the same as blurry, which it is not.

Blurry requires optical correction, grainy is seeing details that require precision focus. They are actually quite opposite. One is exaggeration, one is precise. Which are you?

Mini's screen sux.
 
But those devices arent blurry.It's blurry for something other than ppi, maybe lower quality screen? Can't explain it.

Agreed. I have a bunch of notebooks and monitors that are around 130 PPI. None are anywhere near as grainy as the Mini.

Mini's screen sux.

Ridiculous...

The iPad mini is perfectly acceptable. Stop being mad because you wanted it to be retina... Get over it.
 
Yep, grainy = blurry? Wait, no, not one bit.

Don't agree with this assertion unless you're willing to misuse terms describing something I think you're being more accurate regarding, but I'm not sure because you imply grainy is the same as blurry, which it is not.

Blurry requires optical correction, grainy is seeing details that require precision focus. They are actually quite opposite. One is exaggeration, one is precise. Which are you?

Blurry and grainy and fuzzy and wuzzy. You get the idea.
 
I have a mini, and the screen does not suck. The pixels are visible, especially for PDFs (though that doesn't change even with retina since the figures and pictures are not vector), but it is perfectly fine. Reading kindle/ibooks books is great. A retina screen is certainly nice, but that doesn't mean the non-retina screen is awful. A year and a half ago you wouldn't have said that resolution /screen "sucks" ;). I'm happier with my Apple products being non-retina but with good screens until the entire line makes it over to retina. I love the retina screens, but I'm not ready to buy into them just yet. Give it a year or two, and then the transition should be ready.
 
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