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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that all models will include wifi and 3G and that a 16GB model will be $199 and 32GB will be $249.
 
You're saying that out of all of the people who would purchase a sub-$200 iPad, they wouldn't buy apps on the App Store, buy music in iTunes or books in the iBookstore? You think those users are just going to limit themselves to free apps, Pandora and ePub books? People aren't all so tech-savvy (and disciplined) that they would limit themselves to free content and avoid the impulse to buy that $0.99 app, $9.99 album or $7.99 book.

Then 12 months later that person suddenly realizes that they've spent a couple hundred bucks on Apple content and decides they might as well buy an iPhone.

I think you're judging the average consumer by your own standards...

Actually, I think you're judging by your standards. Aside from the fact that Apple makes next to nothing on content (an argument for another day), I do not believe that there's any supportable basis for your contention.

Amazon offers Prime which, at this juncture, has no Apple equivalent. All a Kindle Fire purchase has to do is shell out $79 for a year's worth of content. Amazon's own projections show a "lifetime" revenue stream of <$200 per Kindle sold. That's Amazon's model, give away the needle and sell the drugs. It's not Apple's. Apple will make zero profit from media that is Amazon's bread and butter. And people holding out for an "affordable" iPad will not be spending at levels sufficient for Apple to realize a leap in related sales.

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That is definitely going out on a limb, alright. :)

You're out on the limb and you're sawing on the section between you and the tree.
 
Yet another guessing game pricing thread. Jeez!

Not only that, but it's based on hope rather than actual intelligence.

"It's going to be the same or cheaper price than the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire HD and yet have more capabilities." Hope or intelligence in that statement?

When did Apple ever lead with price? They are a high margin oriented company and yet I see all these predictions on this site about how it's going to be cheaper than a product they just announced which is 1/2 the size (i.e. the iPod Touch). Where is the logic in that, if Chewbaca lives on Endor, that makes no sense.
 
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16GB for $299 to $349. No retina.

I'm holding out on the mini, but may pick up an iPad 2 if it disappoints.
 
I think that the King of the Hill in the 7" tablet market right now is the Google Nexus 7. Pricing for that is $199 for 16GB and $249 for 32GB. Both of those units are WiFi only, but both also have GPS.

Like others have posted, I think Apple could be competitive by coming in just $50 above those prices (i.e. $249 for a 16GB WiFi only model) AND including GPS in the WiFi only model, something they do not currently offer in the iPod Touch or WiFi only iPads.

3G/LTE models could include Retina display and be priced with a $120 premium.
 
16GB for $299 to $349. No retina.

I'm holding out on the mini, but may pick up an iPad 2 if it disappoints.

If the Mini is released without retina display it'll be essentially an iPad 2 in a 7" body. That, to me, would be a huge disappointment, so how else could it disappoint you such that you'd buy the same thing (essentially), only bigger? Just curious.
 
Not only that, but it's based on hope rather than actual intelligence.

"It's going to be the same or cheaper price than the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire HD and yet have more capabilities." Hope or intelligence in that statement?

When did Apple ever lead with price? They are a high margin oriented company and yet I see all these predictions on this site about how it's going to be cheaper than a product they just announced which is 1/2 the size (i.e. the iPod Touch). Where is the logic in that, if Chewbaca lives on Endor, that makes no sense.
This.
And for the same reason, I don't see Apple releasing at the same time a retina and non retina version of it (that would also be unnecessary fragmentation).
Apple in its history never followed the tracks of somebody else. Let others struggle to make an iPhone-killer or an iPad-killer. Apple doesn't need to do that, and the moment it happens that will be the beginning of the end.
 
Lineup for holiday
------------------------$0
iPod shuffle 4G 2 GB $49
------------------------$99
iPod nano 7G 16 GB $149
iPod touch 4G 16 GB $199
iPod touch 4G 32 GB $249--------------------------iPod classic 160 GB $249
iPod touch 5G 32 GB $299
------------------------------iPad mini 16 GB $349
iPod touch 5G 64 GB $399--------------------------iPad 2 16 GB $399
------------------------------iPad mini 32 GB $449
iPad 3rd gen 16 GB $499
------------------------------iPad mini 64 GB $549
iPad 3rd gen 32 GB $599
----------------------$649
iPad 3rd gen 64 GB $699

for iPad cellular +$130
 
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Personally, I have no idea of the price but I can tell you what I might pay. I'm looking for a "reader" with more functions. As much as I'm in the Apple infrastructure and have other Apple stuff I wouldn't pay more that 229 or so for a basic model. For what I want and would use it for it would not be worth more (and that is a bit of a stretch even) vs. what I can get from the competition. I'd hate to go to another solution but not willing to pay most of the price of a regular iPad for a Mini.
 
iPad Mini 16GB Wi-Fi: $199
iPad Mini 32GB Wi-Fi: $299
iPad Mini 64GB Wi-Fi: $399

iPad Mini 16GB w/LTE: $249
iPad Mini 32GB w/LTE: $349
iPad Mini 64GB w/LTE: $449

As much as I'd like to see those prices... I highly doubt it. $249 minimum for the base model imo.
 
I've said it before and i'll say it again,

I'd pay up to £300 for an iPad mini without retina (around $490)

If they could get it down to £200 to £230 (around $325-$375), I'd buy 2


Don't forget that the smaller screen would be sharper at the same resolution as the iPad 2, while also giving apple an easy upgrade route for gen 2. Remember the iPad 1...no cameras for no reason EXCEPT to provide an upgrade path.
 
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I think that the King of the Hill in the 7" tablet market right now is the Google Nexus 7. Pricing for that is $199 for 16GB and $249 for 32GB. Both of those units are WiFi only, but both also have GPS.

Like others have posted, I think Apple could be competitive by coming in just $50 above those prices (i.e. $249 for a 16GB WiFi only model) AND including GPS in the WiFi only model, something they do not currently offer in the iPod Touch or WiFi only iPads.

3G/LTE models could include Retina display and be priced with a $120 premium.
the Nexus 7 8GB model is $199 and 16GB is $249
 
If the Mini is released without retina display it'll be essentially an iPad 2 in a 7" body. That, to me, would be a huge disappointment, so how else could it disappoint you such that you'd buy the same thing (essentially), only bigger? Just curious.
Mainly, if it has a retina display, I will be disappointed. I also want a better front camera for Facetime, because the iPad 2's is awful.

I'm buying two for my parents who could not discern the difference between, nor care about, high- or low-DPI screens (this is likely true for most mainstream consumers). But because of the screen, the new iPad takes twice as long to charge, has marginally inferior battery life, runs hotter and is obviously more expensive to produce than the iPad 2. A 7" tablet needs none of those things.
 
If the Mini is released without retina display it'll be essentially an iPad 2 in a 7" body. That, to me, would be a huge disappointment

William,

At the very least a Mini without retina will have higher DPI just from having the same resolution in a smaller form factor. The other specs could also outperform the iPad 2: processing power, LTE, better cameras, battery life, gorilla glass 2, nicer screen (blacks, colors, brightness).

Of course we really don't know yet.

AM
 
Prices

In my opinion, I think they will do the following:

1. They will Ax the iPad 2 considering it was kept around as an education product for this school year (which they sold MILLIONS of) and bring in the iPad mini as $399 for a 16GB version with Retina or non-retina with 32GB. (Base model prices)

2. They would never make it the same price or even close to the iPod touch. The first mistake was cramming so much into the iPod touch and bringing it in at that price point. They should've left the $299 price point for the iPad mini and just updated the old iPod touch with colors and not the taller, more expensive screen. I honestly don't even know why they split the touch into 2 generations.

3. They will update the New iPad (3) at the same event with 32GB, Lightning, etc. at the same price point to differentiate it a bit more.

This is all IF the thing even exists. :)

Any thoughts?
 
In my opinion, I think they will do the following:

1. They will Ax the iPad 2 considering it was kept around as an education product for this school year (which they sold MILLIONS of) and bring in the iPad mini as $399 for a 16GB version with Retina or non-retina with 32GB. (Base model prices)

2. They would never make it the same price or even close to the iPod touch. The first mistake was cramming so much into the iPod touch and bringing it in at that price point. They should've left the $299 price point for the iPad mini and just updated the old iPod touch with colors and not the taller, more expensive screen. I honestly don't even know why they split the touch into 2 generations.

3. They will update the New iPad (3) at the same event with 32GB, Lightning, etc. at the same price point to differentiate it a bit more.

This is all IF the thing even exists. :)

Any thoughts?
I've put the relevant words in bold for you :p
 
At the very least a Mini without retina will have higher DPI just from having the same resolution in a smaller form factor. The other specs could also outperform the iPad 2: processing power, LTE, better cameras, battery life, gorilla glass 2, nicer screen (blacks, colors, brightness).

Those all sound nice, but are they enough of a wow factor that would differentiate this product from the Kindle Fire HD, new Nook, and others? Apple won't sell this cheaply, they don't do that, but are those things enough to give it an edge over the other devices, especially to earn the Apple price tag?? I'm not sure. There's got to be something more, at least I hope there is.
 
Those all sound nice, but are they enough of a wow factor that would differentiate this product from the Kindle Fire HD, new Nook, and others? Apple won't sell this cheaply, they don't do that, but are those things enough to give it an edge over the other devices, especially to earn the Apple price tag?? I'm not sure. There's got to be something more, at least I hope there is.

There is. It's made by Apple, has the app store, and the Apple ecosystem. That's enough to warrant the premium price tag.
 
It's hard to compare existing tablets to a rumored Mini with unknown specs and an unknown price. :rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure I'm in for one unless it is exorbitantly expensive, horribly crippled, or completely mythical.
 
It's an easy decision for me. If it's within $50 of the Nexus 7, I will buy it. If not, I won't.

The 7 inch tablet is all about surfing the net and media consumption for me. The apps I need have are free or have a minimal cost. The movies, TV shows I rent are the same cost.

If Apple would have come out first with a 7 inch tablet, I probably would have paid a premium for it. But now that there are quality options at a good price point, I'm going to weigh all options.
 
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