It's really fast for me too and I don't even think twice about the nanoseconds lost if it is slower. Maybe it just seems that way bc you're holding a heavier device and every nanosecond holding it is hurting your arms (think Stein holding contest). But really, was it unveiled by iFixit that it was the 1st gen Touch ID anyway?
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iPad Pro 1st Gen Touch ID. Why?
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It's really fast for me too and I don't even think twice about the nanoseconds lost if it is slower. Maybe it just seems that way bc you're holding a heavier device and every nanosecond holding it is hurting your arms (think Stein holding contest). But really, was it unveiled by iFixit that it was the 1st gen Touch ID anyway?
I have no idea why it allegedly has an older version of Touch ID. I'm not the one pushing the 'they need something to sell you for v2' meme. We also don't know why it doesn't have 3D Touch. Is it an engineering issue? Supply chain issue? Is it marketing deciding it needs to be an iPhone exclusive for one year? We don't know so it's silly to assume one thing or another.
Listening to you people whine about minor little issues about which Touch ID sensor is used in the iPP makes me cringe. You're not going to use the iPP for Apple Pay, which is what the 2nd gen Touch ID was pushed out for. You get this massive screen, the screaming processor, faster storage, USB3 and you're complaining about the Touch ID. I'm actually a little ashamed of the whiners..
I have the 6S and got the iPad Pro two days ago. Honestly if anything the sensor seems faster on the Pro to me. Certainly no slower in any way. If that's the criteria we're using to judge this then it's perfect in my opinion.
Honestly I don't think for that size of screen they could either:
A.) Produce it at a reasonable cost.
B.) The technology wasn't ready for a screen size that large.
Come next year and we might see it. The rest of the iPad line up will eventually get it in my opinion. Hopefully its not 2-3 years from now for the whole lineup.
I'm more interested to see how Apple improves iOS for the iPad.
It was absolutely penny pinching. And it is noticeable.
Is it a huge deal? No. Is it annoying? Yes.
Unlike 3D Touch, which I just don't think would have worked without dramatically increasing the weight and thickness of the Pro, the current sensor should have been doable.
Is it a huge deal? No. Is it annoying? Yes.
Unlike 3D Touch, which I just don't think would have worked without dramatically increasing the weight and thickness of the Pro, the current sensor should have been doable.
I'm bad at math but I'm guessing that 75 cents here and 25 cents there and 10 cents over there adds up to quite a lot if you're selling millions of devices. No company is just going to give that up. Especially a company building a multi-billion dollar space ship campus. All that curved glass don't pay for itself, you know..
I think it was a supply chain issue for now. We could either have a slightly slower TouchID or we could wait an extra week or two for the deliveries.
Touch ID is clearly slower coming from a 6S Plus, but honestly it doesn't bother me as its still fast, and I don't lock/unlock my iPad nearly as often as my phone.
3D Touch is the most notable omission. Barely use it on my phone thus far, but as it slowly makes its way into apps I'll notice it's missing more often in the future.
3D Touch is the most notable omission. Barely use it on my phone thus far, but as it slowly makes its way into apps I'll notice it's missing more often in the future.
So perhaps we don't know for sure which sensor is in the iPP. Or the difference really is imperceptible. Or once people heard it allegedly is the older version their brain assumes it's slower whether it really is or not.
IMO faster Touch ID isn't a big enough feature that Apple would purposely leave it out so it could be a selling feature for a future iPP. I just tried it several times in a row on my iPad Air 2 and I honestly can hardly notice the difference between it and my iPhone 6S. The 6S might be a half a second faster.
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I imagine that's a huge cost issue. A 3D Touch screen that size would probably add significantly to the cost and it may not be possible at the kind of yield Apple would require to sell a reasonable number of devices. On the other hand, it would eliminate the need for the Pencil. Or maybe it wouldn't. I haven't looked into it but how many levels of pressure can 3D Touch deliver versus a stylus that you can completely control the experience on?
Yeah it seems to be faster than an iPhone 6+ but slower than an iPhone 6S+....so its generation 1.5 
To be honest I find this a non-issue. However, I would have very much liked other things in the 6S+, like the ability to have an always on Siri without having to press a button when it's running on battery
To be honest I find this a non-issue. However, I would have very much liked other things in the 6S+, like the ability to have an always on Siri without having to press a button when it's running on battery
There are petabytes of threads in the iOS forum about microsecond delays in how fast an app launches.
I actually prefer the slightly slower Touch ID for the iPad, you can wake the screen with a quick prod without it unlocking, unlike my 6Splus which unlocks at the slightest touch.
It isn't about whining, it is about usability and consistency. The new TouchID sensor wasn't designed for better apple pay, Apple Pay was never an issue with it because the NFC read takes longer than the fingerprint scan. The sensor was put there to unlock your phone faster which people do countless times per day.
The problem with the old sensor is that you get used to moving your finger off faster, so you end up having to scan twice because the last 100 times you used touch ID on your phone it was lightning fast, and now you are unlocking your iPad using the same gesture and it is not the same experience.
If iPad Pro was a $500 device, then sure that is cool, give it to us next year, but it costs $1000 and is not something that people are going to be upgrading every year like an iPhone or even an Air/Mini, especially if they change the form factor and break compatibility with $160 accessories.
While it would be nice to have, I can see why Apple did what they did. Let's say they produced 2.5 million iPad Pros and a similar number of iPad Mini 4s. Had they put the Touch ID 2 in one or both of the models that's 2.5-5 million fewer for iPhones. Let's face it, the iPhone is Apple's top priority and they won't do anything that could cause a supply shortage of iPhones, however small it might be. They don't want to miss iPhone sales expectations because they couldn't ship enough product, particularly when most people won't notice the difference.
The iPad Pro and Mini 4 also got the iPhone 6's LTE baseband, and not the newer one with support for Bands 12 and 30. I'm a bit surprised we haven't seen more pushback from T-Mobile customers on the lack of Band 12.
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The Pencil can detect over 1000 levels of pressure, I believe. 3D Touch is not that sensitive.
It IS about whining, because EVERYONE knows from history that iPads get tech like new TouchID and 3D Touch later than the iPhone. EVERYONE knows this. History has shown it over and over again. Stop whining already.
Up till I see this article, I have been thought my iPad Pro has touch ID 2.... Actually it is very fast, much faster than my iPhone 6 Plus that make me believe it is the 2nd gen touch ID (maybe due to the computing power)
Talk about First World Problems. "My fingerprint takes a full second to activate my $1000 tablet instead of just half a second!"