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iPad Pro 9.7" 8th slowest out of all iPads from start up

bufffilm said:
But 8th fastest isn't right either.

If the truth is that it loads behind the pro 12.9, then it is second fastest.

But in the test the OP presented, 8th slowest is correct.
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So it begs the question...what happened here?1
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One could try to troubleshoot his iPad or his methodology. Maybe an issue with the flash memory in that unit. Maybe some OS update that hadn't fully finished installing.

The main point is it is a sample size of 1, and the sample appears to be wildly inconsistent with even the two other samples taken by myself and LCPepper (which both more closely match the 12.9 pro in the video, which is a similar hardware generation). And even that is too small a sample to draw a real conclusion. Basically it's just a random video.
 
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bufffilm said:
in the test the OP presented, 8th slowest is correct.
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In the test OP presented, the 9.7" iPad finishes in 8th place out of 12 in a speed test where faster is considered better. Therefore it is the eighth fastest, or fifth slowest.
 
It never ceases to amaze me how sensitive the owners of the latest iDevice get when they see any post that doesn't affirm that they have the very best product in every way.

I don't think the iPad Pro 9.7 will be the next iPad 3, but it's indicative in this test -- and which has been mentioned in several professional reviews -- that the 2GB of RAM will be a limiting factor. Anyway, the 9.7 pro has many great features so there is no need to feel too bad. However, 2GB of RAM and the first generation touch ID (both identical to the 1.5 year old Air 2) along with the higher price eventually will mean some major discounts.
 
booting is not so much importing ... but its gets a little bit warmer than the bigger one..i think thanks to the small space for the cpu and gpu
 
TrueBlou said:
If you think 2GB if RAM isn't enough for iOS, you've been grossly mislead. I'd demand a better explanation.


Ok, as I'm here anyway, here's one I posted previously. Because I'm being lazy it's a cut and paste job.



.........Before anyone inevitably starts shouting about the RAM, I'll just say my bit and I'm not going to argue on it. You can please yourself in what you think. No it's not (yes that's my answer to the inevitable RAM complaining,) the bottleneck I see when I'm developing apps is not the amount of memory, it's the chipset.

For instance, I've had apps running great during development on an iPad Air with 1GB of RAM. When you drop to the previous generations iPad 3 & 4, both of which have the same RAM, neither of which get anything like the frame rate of the Air 1.

The same is true of iPhones. iPhone 5s and 6, 1GB RAM, lovely performance. iPhone 5, also 1GB of RAM, nowhere like the same performance.

You'd be surprised just how well iOS can cope with 1GB of RAM or more obviously. I still am sometimes when I'm monitoring the load on the system during development. Is there a difference? Well, of course. But is 2GB something to be concerned about? Not for quite some time that's for sure.
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I think he was being sarcastic, fyi
 
barkomatic said:
It never ceases to amaze me how sensitive the owners of the latest iDevice get when they see any post that doesn't affirm that they have the very best product in every way.

I don't think the iPad Pro 9.7 will be the next iPad 3, but it's indicative in this test -- and which has been mentioned in several professional reviews -- that the 2GB of RAM will be a limiting factor. Anyway, the 9.7 pro has many great features so there is no need to feel too bad. However, 2GB of RAM and the first generation touch ID (both identical to the 1.5 year old Air 2) along with the higher price eventually will mean some major discounts.
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I share in the disappointment about the 2gb of ram, believe me, but if you read my comment, this test is indicative of literally nothing.
 
TrueBlou said:
Define sarcastic?
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Look at the post, how come he's not sarcastic? OP is comparing Pro 9.7 with a beastly processor to a device that gets 400 on Geekbench. That's hilarious... Boot up times can vary. There's no way that person wasn't mocking with the OP that they thought Pro 9.7 will be like iPad 3.

or maybe he is agreeing with the OP and I was too hopeful that he isn't
 
barkomatic said:
It never ceases to amaze me how sensitive the owners of the latest iDevice get when they see any post that doesn't affirm that they have the very best product in every way.

I don't think the iPad Pro 9.7 will be the next iPad 3, but it's indicative in this test -- and which has been mentioned in several professional reviews -- that the 2GB of RAM will be a limiting factor. Anyway, the 9.7 pro has many great features so there is no need to feel too bad. However, 2GB of RAM and the first generation touch ID (both identical to the 1.5 year old Air 2) along with the higher price eventually will mean some major discounts.
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I agree with everything but the underlined. RAM has nothing to do with boot times.
 
barkomatic said:
It never ceases to amaze me how sensitive the owners of the latest iDevice get when they see any post that doesn't affirm that they have the very best product in every way.

I don't think the iPad Pro 9.7 will be the next iPad 3, but it's indicative in this test -- and which has been mentioned in several professional reviews -- that the 2GB of RAM will be a limiting factor. Anyway, the 9.7 pro has many great features so there is no need to feel too bad. However, 2GB of RAM and the first generation touch ID (both identical to the 1.5 year old Air 2) along with the higher price eventually will mean some major discounts.
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Sounds like sour grapes to me.
 
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Quick test on my iPP 9.7", 14 seconds from cold.

Besides, if you're shutting it down regularly, you're using it wrong. Only time it's worth switching it off completely is when you're absolutely not going to be using it for a week or something, or for security/work/flights. Even then, putting it in Airplane mode means it'd still have plenty of charge from full after a week idling.

My uncle shuts his down and starts it up multiple times a day, I've told him a thousand times this likely uses more battery than it saves and completely destroys the convenience factor, but he won't have it. I slapped my head and gave up that fight long ago.

Also, that vid says iPad 3 was the "worst iPad ever made". NOT IME! That would be the iPad 1 and Air 1, the Air 1 by some margin for me given it should've been a lot better on the 5th try. I give the iPad 1 a pass given it was first gen.
 
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spesifikbrush said:
Look at the post, how come he's not sarcastic? OP is comparing Pro 9.7 with a beastly processor to a device that gets 400 on Geekbench. That's hilarious... Boot up times can vary. There's no way that person wasn't mocking with the OP that they thought Pro 9.7 will be like iPad 3.

or maybe he is agreeing with the OP and I was too hopeful that he isn't
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Yeahhhh, kind of missed that I wasn't being serious. I must remember to use :rolleyes: more often ;)
 
#1. When 2GB of DDR4 Ram becomes a limiting factor for iOS device we will be upgrading to the iPad Pro 3. Other devices with the same 2GB RAM but slower DDR3 speeds will show problems sooner.
#2. RAM is not the problem it's CPU speed. And that's what the Pro line brings.
#3. How spoiled are we that our new $600+ hundred dollar purchase boots a few seconds slower.
#4. I really hope that guy who did the video does it again after iOS X comes out
#5. Why do you need an iPad Pro simple Exlusive Pro level features. Apples not gonna stop at a Keyboard and Pencil the Pro line will get New and Exlusive features. Appropriate for each device. Do I want 3D Force Touch not really. But True Tone and Apple Pencil yes. Plus my guess is Bluetooth Mouse support so Prosfessionals can do work.
 
I loved my ipad 3 for 4 years so i would be fine with it. And now that i have a 12.9 my wife is loving her "new to her" ipad 3.
 
Im shocked by this, people who bought the 9,7 really do need to get their money back ASAP!
 
Does a full power down and power on time with iOS fluctuate with the apps that were running in the background? Never tested this myself because it's silly and makes zero impact to everyday use, but I am a bit curious.
 
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This test is weird. At 0:35, is the ipad bent / damaged? Also, the large iPad Pro is a wifi iPad without cellular. These may or may not be significant factors, but it makes the results very suspect.....
 
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TrueBlou said:
If you think 2GB if RAM isn't enough for iOS, you've been grossly mislead. I'd demand a better explanation.


Ok, as I'm here anyway, here's one I posted previously. Because I'm being lazy it's a cut and paste job.



.........Before anyone inevitably starts shouting about the RAM, I'll just say my bit and I'm not going to argue on it. You can please yourself in what you think. No it's not (yes that's my answer to the inevitable RAM complaining,) the bottleneck I see when I'm developing apps is not the amount of memory, it's the chipset.

For instance, I've had apps running great during development on an iPad Air with 1GB of RAM. When you drop to the previous generations iPad 3 & 4, both of which have the same RAM, neither of which get anything like the frame rate of the Air 1.

The same is true of iPhones. iPhone 5s and 6, 1GB RAM, lovely performance. iPhone 5, also 1GB of RAM, nowhere like the same performance.

You'd be surprised just how well iOS can cope with 1GB of RAM or more obviously. I still am sometimes when I'm monitoring the load on the system during development. Is there a difference? Well, of course. But is 2GB something to be concerned about? Not for quite some time that's for sure.
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So "I'll just say my bit and I'm not going to argue on it" ... buuuuuut you felt the need to go out of your way to copy & paste "your bit" just one last time?

Have you ever heard of the following:

"Assumption is the mother of all **** ups"?

Who mentioned apps not running well on 2GB of RAM?

Not meeeeee!!

A "Pro" iPad should have 4GB of RAM. AT LEAST! End of story. And I guarantee (I'll even have a wager on it, if you like?) that the next 9.7" iPad "Pro" WILL have 4GB of RAM.

Thus this current 9.7" iPad "Pro" will be the iPad 3, all over again.

I truly believe in voting with your wallet, and that's exactly what I did.

So just take a deeeeeeep breath, and reeeeelaaaaaaxxxxxxxxx ...
 
Misleading test because newer versions of iOS have to load newer and more complex frameworks. I can boot Windows 95 3 times faster than Windows 10 on a new PC if I could get it installed.
 
TrueBlou said:
The same is true of iPhones. iPhone 5s and 6, 1GB RAM, lovely performance. iPhone 5, also 1GB of RAM, nowhere like the same performance.
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I'm using the ip6 and I wouldn't say the performance is lovely. Apps/web page need to refresh here and there.
 
Old Skool Gamer said:
So "I'll just say my bit and I'm not going to argue on it" ... buuuuuut you felt the need to go out of your way to copy & paste "your bit" just one last time?

Have you ever heard of the following:

"Assumption is the mother of all **** ups"?

Who mentioned apps not running well on 2GB of RAM?

Not meeeeee!!

A "Pro" iPad should have 4GB of RAM. AT LEAST! End of story. And I guarantee (I'll even have a wager on it, if you like?) that the next 9.7" iPad "Pro" WILL have 4GB of RAM.

Thus this current 9.7" iPad "Pro" will be the iPad 3, all over again.

I truly believe in voting with your wallet, and that's exactly what I did.

So just take a deeeeeeep breath, and reeeeelaaaaaaxxxxxxxxx ...
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I fully expect the next one to have more RAM as well, because, oh I don't know, it'll be the next one. As for a "Pro" (it's just a name) iPad should have at least 4GB of RAM, well no, that's what you and indeed many would like it to have of that there's no argument.

The worst thing Apple did with the new iPads was call them Pro. People seem to expect more from that moniker than an iPad was ever going to deliver.


winxdon said:
I'm using the ip6 and I wouldn't say the performance is lovely. Apps/web page need to refresh here and there.
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I'm using a 6+ too, of course things need to reload and such but the point wasn't of those devices performance in isolation. The point was that compared to the previous generation with the same memory setup the performance of the 6/6+ is quite a bit better and what a device is capable of is not dictated solely by how much memory it has.
 
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