the version of Windows that comes with the Surface Pro is the Professional version (allows domain joins). So in a way that could be what they mean.
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iPad Pro and Apple Pencil Compared to Surface Pro 4 and Surface Pen
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Good for them. We were not talking about millions of people. If they keep doing that then my shares climb so, selfishly I hope they buy buy buy!
For me, personally. Nothing has peaked my interest or got me excited since possibly the first iPad which Apple nailed.
A Retina MBA would be something I'm very interested in. Alas more feet dragging from Apple and I no longer need one!
Seriously? Do you not remember how slow Windows advanced until, say July 29, 2015? Prior to that Windows was nearly frozen in time after each release for years at a time. iOS advances extremely rapidly. But it's never going to become a desktop operating system like you seem to want.
The Air 2 did not have multi-tasking when it was released for review, it did not have an OEM keyboard, and it did not have a screen large enough to display two full sized Air 2 apps side by side. It's not a traditional laptop, but it's more than adequate for a LOT of people. But I bet you think you need a 15" MacBook Pro to post here and watch some movies right?
We are comparing iOS to Windows now? Compare it to another mobile OS - of Which windows 10 has only just become and will shortly fail to be! Android for instance.
Hmmm.... iOS has given the iPad Air 2 all of that now. Right? So the iPad Air 2 is now a laptop contender? No, it's an iPad with split screen - a really poorly implemented split screen that's currently for specific apps only and a chore to cycle through said apps.
I never once said iPad is not a perfectly good device for some people. I said I find it weird that a tablet running an iPhone OS is suddenly being compared to a freaking laptop / desktop or hybrid running full OS because Apple slapped "PRO" on the end and now that the Air has exactly the same iOS features as the Pro couldn't they theoretically do the same with that?
Maybe it's just me but I'm done with settling with whatever Apple thinks is just about good enough for the population.
Lets release a Pro product.
Lets not add maybe another port to that product so you could charge your phone whilst charging the product or have any other peripherals plugged into it.
Lets not allow extra viewing angles when the keyboard is attached. Leave that to third party.
Lets not allow pen storage and add a really daft way of charging that pencil - although not if that port is being used for something else like charging the device.
Lets update iOS for this product.
Lets not however change anything in that iOS to really make it useful for Professionals.
Lets make split screen really really hard to use and not allow two instances of the same app running side by side.
Lets not release any of our own Pro apps - Final Cut, Logic etc that could really make use of this Pro technology. Garageband, iMovie are good enough I suppose.
Let not make it possible for such a large screen to be split into 3 apps running at the same time!
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Nice pivot when confronted with a ridiculous statement 'iOS is the slowest growing OS I have ever witnessed.'
No qualifiers there.
The Air 2 gets basic multitasking, but it's a LOT less useful when you only get one full sized app. And still no keyboard. As far as iOS devices go, yes, the iPad Pro is the only one that qualifies with the ability to get a reasonable level of work done on it. You may not like the iOS paradigm, but Apple is clearly not backing down on this, and it's pretty clear that at some point in the not-so-distant future (but not tomorrow or even next year) a huge proportion of computing will be done on devices just like this. That's what the iPad Pro is aiming for.
Fair play, I was hinting at mobile OS. Not clearly enough obviously. My bad.
Does the Air not have a keyboard? Not an Apple one but there are many third part options and it seems that plenty of people have been going about their day to day using nothing but an Air.
It will be interesting to see how many people switch back to an Air when they realise that they could do everything on that just as well as a Pro but without the cumbersome size.
But that's for another day.
There are obviously a million keyboards for the Air, but I've found that they all have significant limitations but I'm sure the Apple one does as well. I really think that the size is the key differentiator in making the iPad Pro acceptable for doing real work though. As an example, I started out with the Surface Pro 1, which had a lot of faults, but the screen size was really the most significant one. Since it wasn't a good tablet at that time, it needed to be a totally passable laptop. And at that screen size and aspect ratio, it just didn't work. When the SP3 came out with a larger screen in a better aspect ratio, I had no trouble dumping my 14" laptop and working exclusively on the Surface Pro. I personally couldn't work on the iPad Pro for my job, but pretty much everything else I need personally in a computer I could make do with an iPad - in fact I did for a number of years. About 12" turns out to be the perfect balance IMO for a device to be both compact and still extremely functional.
But you're not a professional graphic artist, so your opinion from a quick try at an Apple store carries no weight. There are plenty who are that have weighed in with respect to performance, ergonomic feel, and palm rejection. Such as my wife who has tried them all and is a graphic artist.
My perception is you're not very fussy as you originally mentioned all of the 3rd party styli out there for the iPad and the Pencil being "nothing new." Based on that, other solutions are probably a better fit for your needs.
"A professional artist will create great Art with just about anything including their finger."
One can create great art with a finger - my wife has been doing that for many years starting with an iPod Touch long ago. However, for professional use (i.e. making money from your profession), you will not find (m)any. The Pencil is more responsive and much better suited than any 3rd party stylus for the iPad, better than the Surface, and right up there or better than a Wacom. Again, if you like to paint with your finger, then a 3rd party stylus is for you. If you depend on making money as a professional graphic artist then you'd be delusional to think they even come close to an Apple Pencil.
"Sure the latency is down - there is still some latency though and this will be app specific"
Yup. And those apps will be modified now that there is a good reason to drive latency down with a stylus professionals can actually use. Using Apple's Notes app, just as an example, there is no perceptible latency. Others will quickly follow and have.
Huh.
I see. So it's clear that I've never tried any pens, pencil stylus etc. When I say I have, my personal opinion doesn't carry any weight because I'm not a graphics artist.
Anyhoo, I must remember not to form my own opinions based on my own feelings and experience in future. I'll run them by you first to make sure I'm on script.
I see. So it's clear that I've never tried any pens, pencil stylus etc. When I say I have, my personal opinion doesn't carry any weight because I'm not a graphics artist.
Anyhoo, I must remember not to form my own opinions based on my own feelings and experience in future. I'll run them by you first to make sure I'm on script.
Right now neither is in my budget or desire. I played with the iPad Pro and the pencil yesterday and this quelled any desire to buy it; especially since any design / language coursework necessitating the pencil seems to be out of the question with my university classes now.
I would never waste $ on an iPad Pro. I think at that point, you're better off with a Surface. If the Pro ran OS X, then different story. With the Surface, you get full fledged 64 bit Windows 10, which is infinitely better for productivity than a 64 bit 4GB of RAM A chip combo paired with an Apple Pen.
I see you chipped in with your thoughts on a complex topic, then couldn't be bothered to understand it in any more detail. In that case, I'm talking to people with more patience to listen and learn than you have.
If I wanted to run OS X? Yeah, I'd get either a Pro if I felt I needed something super fast or maybe just a MacBook. Not sure. I just know I'd get a Mac to run (Mac) OS X. The reason I'm getting an iPad Pro is because I realized I don't need a full laptop and the iPad Air 2 is good enough but I'd like a bigger screen. That isn't to say iOS is perfect, but nothing ever is.
I don't need a full desktop OS with all the baggage of a full desktop OS.
If you take care of it, how will it be full of baggage? At that point, those tablets are meant for productivity mainly. That's why they upped the RAM for graphics designing, handling apps in the work place, etc, but at that price point, you might as well get the best hardware possible, which is the Intel processor line.
Does the best hardware run the OS that fits my needs? I'd like fewer devices, not more. Also, the baggage I'm talking about is in the OS itself. There's a reason why OS X takes up multiple times the space of iOS, as well as more resources.