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iPad Pro and Apple Pencil

Badrottie

Badrottie

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I lost my 2nd Wacom Stylus Pen this week. I looked at Samsung Galaxy Note I realized Apple missed something or maybe not - iPad Pro should have pen enclosed inside there just like S Pen you can put in the Note. That way I wouldn't lose my stylus pen. Maybe Apple wants you to pay another Apple Pencil if you lost it.
 
I think iPad would be much thicker if it had a slot to stick the Pencil in it. But I do wish Apple had added something to their case or covers to hold the Pencil somehow.
 
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Badrottie said:
I lost my 2nd Wacom Stylus Pen this week. I looked at Samsung Galaxy Note I realized Apple missed something or maybe not - iPad Pro should have pen enclosed inside there just like S Pen you can put in the Note. That way I wouldn't lose my stylus pen. Maybe Apple wants you to pay another Apple Pencil if you lost it.
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I think Apple is all for you buying multiple pencils. Cases though, it would be good to see cases with a place to hold them.
 
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GoCubsGo said:
I think Apple is all for you buying multiple pencils. Cases though, it would be good to see cases with a place to hold them.
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That is how Apple is making an excellent profile.
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Night Spring said:
I think iPad would be much thicker if it had a slot to stick the Pencil in it. But I do wish Apple had added something to their case or covers to hold the Pencil somehow.
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Or Apple should make Apple Pencil more thinner. I have a LG G Pad F 8.0 the stylus is so damn thin like refill pen ink! Take a good look at those pictures

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Badrottie said:
I lost my 2nd Wacom Stylus Pen this week. I looked at Samsung Galaxy Note I realized Apple missed something or maybe not - iPad Pro should have pen enclosed inside there just like S Pen you can put in the Note. That way I wouldn't lose my stylus pen. Maybe Apple wants you to pay another Apple Pencil if you lost it.
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I lost my pen and its all Apple's fault!!
 
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Badrottie said:
Yes but I got to tell you when I move LG stylus without touch the screen, it somehow detects.....even though it doesn't look like hardware in the stylus.
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That's likely using specific sensors. I was just trying to say they really can't make the AP as thin as the other styluses because of more being inside the pencil than the others.
 
Fozziebear71 said:
I would not want the Apple Pencil to be any thinner, As it is, it is very comfortable in the hand. Much like using an actual pencil. If you lose your pencil it's not Apple's fault.
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I agree, the pencil is a good size and shape. If you have a Smart Cover you'll notice that the pencil will magnetically stick to it, albeit not enough that it's a solution for any other time than when you're at a desk etc but it's handy nonetheless.
 
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Badrottie said:
I lost my 2nd Wacom Stylus Pen this week. I looked at Samsung Galaxy Note I realized Apple missed something or maybe not - iPad Pro should have pen enclosed inside there just like S Pen you can put in the Note. That way I wouldn't lose my stylus pen. Maybe Apple wants you to pay another Apple Pencil if you lost it.
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I feel bad for you, but you should really take more care of your equipment. I've been using Wacom styluses for over a decade and I never lost a single one. And I work with, like, 30 other artists and I never heard anyone loose theirs. Your pen is like your sword, man :) You know what Conan's father said: that you can't trust anyone but your sword? Treat your sword with respect :D

I seriously doubt Apple "wants" you to pay for another Pencil because you lost the first one. While they certainly don't mind you giving them more money, one thing people often misunderstand is that customer satisfaction pays much more in the long run. Deliberately making that satisfaction lower by designing something to easy to loose is a very, very bad business strategy. So is making a battery last short just to get their battery case, or making a screen easy to crack, etc. That doesn't mean they don't make mistakes, but they certainly don't do it intentionally - and I think most people believe that. That's why Apple is one of the most trusted tech companies in the world. That's why I bought the iPad Pro and the Pencil without testing it first (I tried the Pro, but the main reason of getting one was the Pencil and the local reseller didn't have them in stock at the time of my purchase). I got it because I believed it would be satisfied (and in fact I am more satisfied than I expected). Do you really think they would risk that trust, just to make a few quick bucks?
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Or Apple should make Apple Pencil more thinner. I have a LG G Pad F 8.0 the stylus is so damn thin like refill pen ink! Take a good look at those pictures
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No. Just no :) It would ruin the experience for anything but handwriting. In fact, a lot of artists think it's too thin as it is. For me, it's just about right, though I wouldn't mind if it was a bit thicker. But thinner? No.

Oh, but I do agree I'd like to see a way to put it aside while holding my iPad. I love how you can stick the 53 Pencil to the Smart Case/Cover.
 
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Badrottie said:
Or Apple should make Apple Pencil more thinner. I have a LG G Pad F 8.0 the stylus is so damn thin like refill pen ink! Take a good look at those pictures

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I highly doubt any of those you show in the pictures have anywhere near the components inside as the Apple Pencil does. The Apple Pencil has a lot of technology inside and its own logic board. You can't compare a thin stick to that at all.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Pencil+Teardown/52955

Also the Apple Pencil is meant to mimic the size and look or a real artist pencil.
 
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Night Spring said:
I've heard that the Pencil also sticks to the Smart Cover to some degree. Is the 53 Pencil "stickier"?
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The Apple Pencil doesn't stick to the Smart Cover in any way that would keep it there. I'm not usually a critic of Apple's design decisions, but I wonder what His Steveness would have made of this. (Then again, His Steveness did approve the hockey-puck mouse.) I keep my Apple Pencil in its original box when I'm not using it. It's harder to lose the box, but it's not exactly convenient.
 
nightcap965 said:
The Apple Pencil doesn't stick to the Smart Cover in any way that would keep it there. I'm not usually a critic of Apple's design decisions, but I wonder what His Steveness would have made of this. (Then again, His Steveness did approve the hockey-puck mouse.) I keep my Apple Pencil in its original box when I'm not using it. It's harder to lose the box, but it's not exactly convenient.
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I think it's not just Steve Jobs. I hope Tim Cook, Jony Ive and the others are at least bothered by not having a solution to keeping the Pencil secure, and I hope they are working on a solution that will wow us. Apple has a tendency to release first gen products that are in general great, but has one or two irritating flows that get resolved in the second gen. It's why some people swear they'll never buy a first gen product from Apple. I'm hoping the Pencil will get updated next year with better ways of keeping it from getting lost, and also, please, we need a way to keep the cap on the charging port from getting lost!
 
Don't most people carry their ipad pro's in some sort of laptop bag? Even with a cover, an ipad pro is a fragile and expensive piece of equipment to expose to bumps and bruises of commuting. Get a lightweight laptop bag and keep your pencil in that
 
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The Apple Pencil doesn't stick to the Smart Cover in any way that would keep it there. I'm not usually a critic of Apple's design decisions, but I wonder what His Steveness would have made of this. (Then again, His Steveness did approve the hockey-puck mouse.) I keep my Apple Pencil in its original box when I'm not using it. It's harder to lose the box, but it's not exactly convenient.
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It definitely does. I carry mine around the house that way. I wouldn't use it oitside the house, but it keeps the two together nicely while I'm home.'

As for the subject of the thread... the Pencil is meant to be the same size as a nice pen/pencil and has quite a bit of electronics in it. It is an incredible piece of technology that makes writing on a tablet completely flawless like nothing else that's been made before. I do not at all mind "keeping up" with it.
 
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i think it would be better if the tablet stored the pencil, but i wouldnt want the pencil any smaller. the tablet is too thin to insert a pencil in it now and most people think thinner is better, so i doubt apple will ever change this design. personally, i made mine thicker and more grippy with a silicon case , i kept dropping mine it was so slick. I would prefer a tablet that is less fashionable and more functional. but thats not apples design philosophy. i hope this thinner trend goes away for tablets that are for productivity, but the ipad pro is not made for the productivity i do. wacom comes with a nice case for the stylus that goes in tote bag. very functional. i think this is a good solution. so far i have not seen a good solution like that for the ipad. the closest i have come is the nomad art satchel. it fits the ipad pro very well and has loops for the pencil that keep it secure. it also doubles as a easel. its designed for sketching. has lots of pockets and is water resistant. i like it. I never lose my pencil now, and the tablet is protected.
 
The Pencil is an optional accessory, therefore any solution for storing it has to be added as an option only. This excludes the possibility of storing the Pencil inside the iPad (don't use a Pencil -> you have an empty hole in your iPad!).
 
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