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iPad Pro blows in many respects. I just sent this to apple feature request

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iPad Pro blows in many respects. I just sent this to apple feature request.

Hello. Please forward on to the software developers. No one would buy a iMac 27 inch if all it did was blow up a 11 inch MacBook Air. The reason people (like myself) buy a 27 inch iMac is for the extra resolution and space for Windows and productivity. However currently in most situations all the ipad pro does is blow up the res of a small ipad. This is maybe good for old blind people but for me and people that want to use it as a "pro", this is a somewhat pointless machine in its current state. Just as with a desktop please allow for resolution changes within the settings so we can increase the useable workspace. While I'm at it... increase the allowable characters in this comment section. Some of us are actually able to write more than a few sentences.
 
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Wow! The best approach to putting a suggestion in might not be to make fun of the elderly. Apple might be responsible for some of the "blown" up images, but it's incumbent on the developers to adopt the new resolution. I'm sure Apple limits the number of characters to ensure people don't ramble on about their suggestion.
 
PicnicTutorials said:
However currently in most situations all the ipad pro does is blow up the res of a small ipad.
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So you're blaming apple for what is the responsibility of developers to update their apps? The main difference between a 27" iMac and the iPad pro, is the iMac runs OS X. iOS does not offer resolution changes, but it's up to app makers to use the proper resolution.

As for the actual productivity, I don't think the IPP is in the same category of the iMac, but that's just me. I think it offers a lot over smaller iPads but it cannot compete with an iMac

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The saying "catch more flies with honey than vinegar" comes to mind, when people are rude, harsh or insulting, their complaints generally fall on deaf ears. Perhaps being so harsh in your response does not further the point you were trying to make.
 
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I wouldn't say it blows, but I do agree with you on the resolution. I felt the same way when iOS 7 came out. Everything started to look bigger (notifications on the lock screen specifically), and it bothered me. I wish iOS would allow for more resolution control natively.

Though! If a 9.2 jailbreak were to come out, you could use "upscale" to change the resolution. I did this to put the iPad pro resolution onto my iPad Air, and it is amazing! In my opinion it's the resolution the air should've been. The only issue though is that there is blank space on either side of the keyboard, but that is something I can deal with.
 
PicnicTutorials said:
iPad Pro blows in many respects. I just sent this to apple feature request.

Hello. Please forward on to the software developers. No one would buy a iMac 27 inch if all it did was blow up a 11 inch MacBook Air. The reason people (like myself) buy a 27 inch iMac is for the extra resolution and space for Windows and productivity. However currently in most situations all the ipad pro does is blow up the res of a small ipad. This is maybe good for old blind people but for me and people that want to use it as a "pro", this is a somewhat pointless machine in its current state. Just as with a desktop please allow for resolution changes within the settings so we can increase the useable workspace. While I'm at it... increase the allowable characters in this comment section. Some of us are actually able to write more than a few sentences.
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I was tracking with you at the beginning but lost me at "iPad Pro blows".
 
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I'm loving the Pro. Most apps I use have been updated and the extra screen space makes it by far the best iPad out there, and so versatile on iOS 9 with the Pencil. I use mine all the time. Right now, in fact.

Personally, I think your request is poorly written and I can barely understand what you're complaining about. You want to be able to adjust the resolution? It's already displaying at native res. I continue to be baffled by these utterly marginal feature complaints. Your comments also come across as juvenile and self-aggrandizing.
 
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PicnicTutorials said:
iPad Pro blows in many respects. I just sent this to apple feature request.

Hello. Please forward on to the software developers. No one would buy a iMac 27 inch if all it did was blow up a 11 inch MacBook Air. The reason people (like myself) buy a 27 inch iMac is for the extra resolution and space for Windows and productivity. However currently in most situations all the ipad pro does is blow up the res of a small ipad. This is maybe good for old blind people but for me and people that want to use it as a "pro", this is a somewhat pointless machine in its current state. Just as with a desktop please allow for resolution changes within the settings so we can increase the useable workspace. While I'm at it... increase the allowable characters in this comment section. Some of us are actually able to write more than a few sentences.
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As much as I like the iPad Pro, I returned mine partly due to very same reason you stated after three weeks of using it. I am not faulting the device nor developer. From what I understand, it is just a matter of time for developer to release the update that will properly support the iPad Pro screen resolution. That "just a matter of time" is uncertainty. So, I decided to return and wait for the apps' progress. I am still eyeing the iPad Pro, it just has so much potential.
 
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iPad Pro blows in many respects. I just sent this to apple feature request.
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Some of us are actually able to write more than a few sentences.
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They may be more interested in clear, concise statements so you may want to try that approach instead. Too, maybe lay off the "old blind people" statements as that doesn't add to the "pro" image you espouse. If you need a better resolution experience, simply say so, it's easy :).
 
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I find it very ironic the people claiming the IPP is the best device out there.. clearly that really does depend on what you want from a device and what works for YOU personally.

Most of the IPP "for people" seem to be those that previously said the surface wouldn't or doesn't work. Just saying... Now it has an apple badge on, it seems to be the best idea ever! I say if it doesn't work for you (IPP or anything else for that matter), there are plenty of options on the market - just move on. You won't and shouldn't even try to change other peoples opinions.
 
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I find it very ironic the people claiming the IPP is the best device out there.. clearly that really does depend on what you want from a device and what works for YOU personally.

Most the IPP "for people" seem to be those that previously said the surface wouldn't or doesn't work.
Just saying... Now it has an apple badge on, it seems to be the best idea ever! I say if it doesn't work for you (IPP or anything else for that matter), there are plenty of option on the market - just move on. You wont and shouldn't even try to change other peoples opinions.
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I see plenty of the reverse in this forum too. Quite honestly I don't get the Surface comparisons. Apple made a keyboard dock for the first iPad and there have always been 3rd party keyboard options. Stylus options too. Apple just made a much better one with the Pencil. If Apple was trying to copy the Surface iPad Pro would be running OS X and Intel not iOS and ARM.
 
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Rogifan said:
I see plenty of the reverse in this forum too. Quite honestly I don't get the Surface comparisons. Apple made a keyboard dock for the first iPad and there have always been 3rd party keyboard options. Stylus options too. Apple just made a much better one with the Pencil. If Apple was trying to copy the Surface iPad Pro would be running OS X and Intel not iOS and ARM.
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Better is a matter or perspective and opinion is it not...?
But i agree in part, the IPP is not truly comparable with the MS SP. The IPP is not a true laptop replacement device, it's still an iPad - just with a larger screen and iOS...
 
PicnicTutorials said:
iPad Pro blows in many respects. I just sent this to apple feature request.

Hello. Please forward on to the software developers. No one would buy a iMac 27 inch if all it did was blow up a 11 inch MacBook Air. The reason people (like myself) buy a 27 inch iMac is for the extra resolution and space for Windows and productivity. However currently in most situations all the ipad pro does is blow up the res of a small ipad. This is maybe good for old blind people but for me and people that want to use it as a "pro", this is a somewhat pointless machine in its current state. Just as with a desktop please allow for resolution changes within the settings so we can increase the useable workspace. While I'm at it... increase the allowable characters in this comment section. Some of us are actually able to write more than a few sentences.
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This is just wrong, and I will probably sound harsh - sorry for that. But do you seriously think anyone from Apple would even read this, let alone act upon it?

Apple invests insane amounts of energy and thought into planing their products. They are famous for not using focus groups for their products, nor do the consult regular users for feedback - for better or worse. They went over every aspect of the product and decided what compromises to make, what not, etc. Whether your suggestion has any merit or not, it will never reach anyone of importance - you must know that, right?

With that said, what you wrote is also, well, wrong. iPad Pro has a larger resolution with increased space for usage. The reason some apps are just blown up is that the developers didn't have the time to update them for the new resolution. We had the same situation when iPad 3 came out, when iPhone 5 came out, when iPhone 6 and 6+ came out and now with the iPad Pro. Apple can't do anything but wait for developers to do their work. In fact, the iPad Pro is better in this regard then the previous iOS products because any app that supports iOS9 dynamic resizing (needed for split view) will work in the new resolution. Those that don't - well, write to the developers.

If you think this is an Apple related problem - it's not. Just take a look at the HORRENDOUS situation with Windows apps and HiDPI screens. Most Windows programs on hi-res screens in Windows, like the Surface models - are either low-dpi, pixelated or have strange UI problems. It's much, much, much, much worse then iOS or OS X.

In other words:

1. Apple will not read your feedback nor will anyone forward it to the iOS design team.
2. Even if they did (they won't), it would be a waste of time, because the feedback itself is faulty. It's up to app developers to increase the resolution of their apps or use iOS9 resizing. Most apps do, and most apps run in full resolution in my experience.
 
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PicnicTutorials said:
iPad Pro blows in many respects. I just sent this to apple feature request.

Hello. Please forward on to the software developers. No one would buy a iMac 27 inch if all it did was blow up a 11 inch MacBook Air. The reason people (like myself) buy a 27 inch iMac is for the extra resolution and space for Windows and productivity. However currently in most situations all the ipad pro does is blow up the res of a small ipad. This is maybe good for old blind people but for me and people that want to use it as a "pro", this is a somewhat pointless machine in its current state. Just as with a desktop please allow for resolution changes within the settings so we can increase the useable workspace. While I'm at it... increase the allowable characters in this comment section. Some of us are actually able to write more than a few sentences.
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What world are you living in that you think that this sort of "feedback" will elicit any action or response? You might as well have scribbled an angry letter in crayon on a napkin, balled it up, and thrown it at Apple corporate HQ.
 
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I wouldn't say it blows, but I do agree with you on the resolution. I felt the same way when iOS 7 came out. Everything started to look bigger (notifications on the lock screen specifically), and it bothered me. I wish iOS would allow for more resolution control natively.

Though! If a 9.2 jailbreak were to come out, you could use "upscale" to change the resolution. I did this to put the iPad pro resolution onto my iPad Air, and it is amazing! In my opinion it's the resolution the air should've been. The only issue though is that there is blank space on either side of the keyboard, but that is something I can deal with.
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I agree completely. iPad Pro resolution on the Air 2 was amazing aside from the keyboard issue and iPhone 6 Plus resolution on the regular 6 is way better there too. Apple really needs to open this up a bit more, an implementation like LittleBrother would fit right in with iOS and not add any complication for the user.
 
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I agree completely. iPad Pro resolution on the Air 2 was amazing aside from the keyboard issue and iPhone 6 Plus resolution on the regular 6 is way better there too. Apple really needs to open this up a bit more, an implementation like LittleBrother would fit right in with iOS and not add any complication for the user.
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I guess I was originally harsh. Of course it doesn't blow. It's amazing. Specially after watching the third Steve jobs movie I appreciate what it is. But, just like in the movie, apple apparently needs to create more end to end control. Because when they don't (to appeal to the masses) then you get variation within each app. I'm all apple. End to end control and in the settings give the user more control. That's the recipie for success. of course easier said than done. Just let me make things smaller. I feel like I have a 70 inch tv 12 inches from my face. I can't see the whole screen
 
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I feel like I have a 70 inch tv 12 inches from my face. I can't see the whole screen
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Well - age will do that to you.

You never see old people like yourself sitting in the front row of movie theaters, either...

Please, don't blame your age related changes on the device, and instead get something less "front row" like an Air 2 or a mini..
 
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