opposite bro. I need the windows on the decvice smaller. or basically a higher grain amount of control over the res and Windows. It's getting there I trust apple will provide more end user control over time
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iPad Pro blows in many respects. I just sent this to apple feature request
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opposite bro. I need the windows on the decvice smaller. or basically a higher grain amount of control over the res and Windows. It's getting there I trust apple will provide more end user control over time
You are talking to the wrong people. Nearly all the apps I use on my iPad Pro are updated for the extra screen resolution - slack, tweetbot, safari, outlook, 1password, todoist, workflow, notes, all the adobe apps, autodesk graphic...etc.
The ones that aren't really don't matter. The worst offender is Google, with YouTube, mainly because you can't use picture in picture with it. Second I guess goes to Facebook. Either way, Apple has no way to control this - if a developer refuses to support the new resolution of the iPad they can't force them to do it. But you (and others) complaining to those specific companies could change it. If you leave a bad review and mention that it is because of their lack of iPad pro support they may listen.
Apple is not about giving users control, but dictating what's best for them. Its worked for them for years now and its one reason why iOS (and to some extent OS X) is locked down.
If you want more control over much of the device, then iOS products may not be a good fit for you.
They should have:
Used USB-C
Made it so you can use it as a monitor with touch and pen, for a Mac
That would have done it right there. This way, you have OS X, and you could do really interesting things with dual mode: Monitor/iOS.
note: and fix that horrible icon spacing.....just that would be nice, no?
Used USB-C
Made it so you can use it as a monitor with touch and pen, for a Mac
That would have done it right there. This way, you have OS X, and you could do really interesting things with dual mode: Monitor/iOS.
note: and fix that horrible icon spacing.....just that would be nice, no?
Agreed.
And like many others have said, this mainly falls to developers to update their apps.
I hear you but your not altogether correct. No body complains of these issues with iMacs because iMacs give the user resolution control. In doing that regardless of what 3rd party people do the size of the apps and web and Windows are per the users control - at least more control. that's all I'm after.
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Again I hear you and that was always the law when Jobs was I charge but with each iOS update apple is giving more fine grain control over things. Because just like Steve Wasniack preached in all three Jobs movies - users want control
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sarcasm... no the icon spacing is perfect because I love apple. lol. Yes that's a perfect example. Why in gods name would the icon/app spacing be the same in a device twice as large??? I love apple products. I am a huge fan. But come on that's an over sight. And if you can't admit that then your blinded by love
I love the iPP and use it for hours every day. It is good enough that I rarely take my MBP when I travel. I'm thinking about swapping that out for an iMac.
I don't see a resolution problem with this. Mostly I'm hoping the software gains more functionality. Case in point, when will Pages and Keynote gain or exceed the drawing tools already available in Notes?
I don't see a resolution problem with this. Mostly I'm hoping the software gains more functionality. Case in point, when will Pages and Keynote gain or exceed the drawing tools already available in Notes?
What finer control has Apple added into iOS. They're are just as control freaks as they ever were. Jobs has been out of the picture for many years now and I don't see much of anything into terms of increased user options.
Apple introduced the ability to sideload apps onto iOS devices through Xcode 7. It's a pretty big hole to the wall-garden that they opened up in my opinion.
But was that a move to help consumers, or an oversight as they work to increasing developer ability?
Who cares about that? Yeah, probably wouldn't take that much effort for Apple to allow people to fit more icons onto the home screen, but why is that such a big deal? At least with things like a file system, I can understand why people would want one, but icon spacing is just... It's just icons on a screen, you tap one to start an app. I spend maybe a few seconds at a time looking at the home screen when I need to start an app. 99% of the time I'm on my iPad, I'm NOT looking at the home screen icons. I don't understand what the big deal is.
I agree with this. Most of the time I open my top 6 - 10 apps and I never see the home screen again for the rest of the day.
Most things work great; but I keep thinking that the home screen could be split into the icon grid plus the widget list from the notification centre, displayed 'always on' as an option. I doubt it will happen, given Apple's history - but what I don't need them to do is provide a denser icon grid, it will take forever to find the app I want if we go to an e.g. 8x6 grid. My home screen is already a sea of similar light blue and white icons (come on designers, do something braver!).
The slideover app selector needs some love too. I DO think that will change in the iOS 10.x.
None of this detracts from the fact that the iPad Pro (plus pencil) is an amazing device that has completely changed the way I work in just a few short weeks. I basically carry it everywhere now,
iMac's let you control the size of your windows, sure, but that doesn't let you change the size of interface elements. I don't really get what you are saying here because the problem is that some apps aren't updated, and therefore they just "scale up" the iPad Air interface, like Facebook. Look at an app like Slack if you want to see a well designed iPad Pro app. When fullscreen it gives more content/controls, but they can also be hidden as well. And they automatically hide when sized down. If you are saying you want windowing...I don't agree at all, windowing is only useful on large screens. So when there is a 21" iOS device then sure, but a 13" iPad doesn't need it IMO.
To be honest, I actually like iOS for multitasking better than OS X in many scenarios - mainly ones that involve playing video while doing something else. On my mac I have to meticulously arrange windows, and if I change apps I have to redo the setup completely. On iOS the video overlay window just exists and I can throw it around anywhere.
I do agree on the homescreen though, but not the spacing - that is not the problem. Having 20 more apps on the homescreen will just make it look more ridiculous. The problem is the iPad Pro needs an all new homescreen - arranging things from the top left in pages just doesn't make sense. The iPad Pro should have some kind of dynamic homescreen - you have your favorite apps, then more contextually relevant apps/widgets. Essentially something like the spotlight screen should become the homescreen (But more customizable of course, giving the ability to remove everything if you want.) Then the pages of apps can be accessed elsewhere.
If you want to change resolutions and use an iPad OS like Mac OS.....1: you're missing the point of an iPad and you're in an EXTREMELY SMALL segment that wants desktop like features in a tablet (resolution changes desktop apps with icons you'll never be able to touch) Yuo obvioulsy dont understand the way operating systems work and iOS will NEVER have a "window" system.....and 2: Microsoft has you covered (as they did in the 90s with failed tablets), have fun.
In conclusion: Get your head out of your @$$
P.S. Writing an intelligent email to Apple might get you a tad father than not knowing anything when it comes to new devices and updating apps to take advantage of said device as an early adopter.
In conclusion: Get your head out of your @$$
P.S. Writing an intelligent email to Apple might get you a tad father than not knowing anything when it comes to new devices and updating apps to take advantage of said device as an early adopter.
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For that to happen you need to add touch to OSX - something TC has stated will not occur.
IPP is a gasp from Apple (IMHO) playing on the success of the Surface Pro (even Samsung is getting into the act). It (IPP) has potential. I for one seriously doubt (hope I'm wrong) that Apple will follow through on the potential of it.
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It is sad when a user utilizes one of the venues available to communicate his/her thoughts on a product and other users/non-users make fun of it. At least he got off his keister and communicated. Good, bad, effective, or not, you have to give him credit for at least trying.
No. I don't buy into the 'trophy just for showing up' mentality. I don't even believe that this was serious attempt to have his concerns addressed. It's just venting (which is fine) poorly disguised as legitimate feedback. Assuming the OP is not a child, he should know the bare basics of how to communicate with other adults if he expects his correspondence to be taken seriously.
Success? You do know that iPad vastly outsells the Surface Pro? So does the MacBook. Did you know that the Surface business only became profitable in 2015 and was, in fact, loosing money before that?
Surface Pro is a nice product, but no one is 'playing on its success', especially not Apple. The Surface line is a strategical product for Microsoft, raising the bar for Windows 10 devices, a showcase of Windows possibilities, etc. Microsoft earns its money from software and services. In fact, Microsoft earns more money from Apple users than from Surface Pro sales.
I like the Surface Pro, I really do. And I like Microsoft. But I am not really sure where this idea that the Surface is some kind of Apple-killer product comes from on these forums. It's nice and all, but Apple is not playing on anyone's success. They look at the market and see if there's demand for a certain product, then they offer their version which usually ends up outselling everything else. They certainly didn't make the iPad Pro because of the Surface, they deduced that people wanted keyboards with their tablets (there were keyboard cases for iPads for quite a while) and decided to do their own take on that. Again, that doesn't mean they did a better job or that Surface is not a good product, just let's not get ahead of ourselves and think they actually did something because of the Surface. In fact, they started designing the iPad Pro at least 2 years ago, and at that time, the Surface was actually a financial failure.
Wow. Seriously... wow.
Who said it was an Apple killer? It's success is the design and that design is driving a change in the market. You're assuming I am talking about sales. You know what they say about assuming...
Why is it that when someone tends to disagree here in Appleland, the first item trotted out is numbers?
I dare say that the limited character count was to limit the ramblings of incoherent complaints that do nothing than state the obvious while trying to sound intelligent.
Correct. The iPad pro isn't a Surface copy. It is a tablet with added functionalities.
I think it is a little bit "unripe" right now. iOS 9 just gave it a preliminary support, and "Pro apps" aren't really out yet. I think in a few months, and with iOS 10, iPad Pro capabilities will be exploited.
Even the SP isn't a true laptop replacement .... is a tablet that try to be a laptop that try to be a tablet ...
If they worked two years on the iPad Pro prior to launching it and weren't able to, or didn't think about adding more pro features to iOS, this is very disappointing.
Wow. Seriously... wow.
Who said it was an Apple killer? It's success is the design and that design is driving a change in the market. You're assuming I am talking about sales. You know what they say about assuming...
Why is it that when someone tends to disagree here in Appleland, the first item trotted out is numbers?
Well, for Apple's decision to be in any way impacted by a product (to play on its success, as you said), it would have to be successful on the market.
So, yes, not only did I assume you were talking about sales, it was the only metric that could apply in this discussion. But now I realized what you actually said was
"IPP is a gasp from Apple (IMHO) because I think Surface Pro is nice."
So, let me respond with - nope, they weren't playing on anything, they made the thing because they saw an opportunity to earn money and they payed no attention to the Surface. Not sure how this qualifies me for Appleland, unless it's a land of good reasoning.
Indeed. These days one gets a feeling it's actually easier to build good hardware than software. But who knows, perhaps it is?
